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did anyone actually tell him the pc port for gow was kinda shoddy
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| Posted: Thu, 14th Feb 2008 16:50 Post subject: |
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gears of war is fucking awful, lol. I don't give a fuck if he wants to fanboy consoles :F go ahead.
Blizzard will always be about the PC and to me that's what matters.
cockcockcockcockcockcockcockcockcockcockcockcock
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| Posted: Thu, 14th Feb 2008 16:53 Post subject: |
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yeah... gears of war sucks so badly... wtf, just run and shoot & run and shoot!!! yay!
I dont understand how the game got so high ratings! fucking hype...
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| Posted: Thu, 14th Feb 2008 16:53 Post subject: |
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Screw the Live Shit that crashes my game ! Screw the lost savegames ! And screw the months that passed until they ported it to the PC.
And PC is good for web-interface games ... "you just click on it and play it" ???
WHAT ? Did his mother throw him around the room when he was a baby ?
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| Posted: Thu, 14th Feb 2008 16:55 Post subject: |
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I support the blue fish in all his comments.
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| Posted: Thu, 14th Feb 2008 18:19 Post subject: |
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Quite the opposite, pc games require some if not a lot of thinking power and intelligence like Medieval, Silent Hunter 4, whilst consoles are kiddies games basically like gow, if that shitty ass game sold that much that tells me all I need to know about the console community. If somewhere there is a problem than it's Cliffy the prick, clearly all he thinks about is profit instead of making a risky, original and interesting game, like DeusEx which is a PC game asshole.
And I wouldn't be caught dead playing sims, divert your eyes away from the sales charts for one second it's obvious where they are Cliffy la Shit.
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| Posted: Thu, 14th Feb 2008 18:55 Post subject: |
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Console gaming is aimed not to be advanced and rather simple for the home user. While PC games are much more advanced and complex. This why you'll never see a good strategy game on a console. Well at least not a complex one... RTS games are a great example of consoles failures... Warcraft 2, Warzone 2100, C&C are all great games but once they were ported to console the games lost any intelligent AI because it would dominate the player. Playing the console version is like playing RTS's for dummies. Granted there have been some good turn based games such a FF tactics , Kartia, Shining force. But notice how rare they are and how old the ones even worth mentioning are.
Also first person shooters are worthless compared to the PC. I would bet my life that I would own any player with a joypad with my mouse and keyboard. This is something consoles continue to try to steal but always fail. Even the halo series is a sub par FPS and its the most fanboyed console FPS out there...
The reason why developers are aiming so much for console games is simply because console gamers don't expect the same quality in a game. They are easier to make and take a hell lot of less time.
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| Posted: Thu, 14th Feb 2008 19:12 Post subject: |
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| NuclearShadow wrote: | | While PC games are much more advanced and complex. |
Are you smoking something? All recent PC games were ports, and the ones that weren't (Crysis) sucked more than the ports... |
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| Posted: Thu, 14th Feb 2008 19:21 Post subject: |
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Both systems have their plus and minues.
Sport and fighting games will always be better on consolls.
RTS and FPS usally works better in PCs
However, one of the better FPS I played last year was Metroid Prime 3, and that one was on Wii. Not the best graphic out there. But the whole feeling of the game was great. Plus Wiis motion sensor controls worked very well with a FPS.
Over all I think this debate Consolls Vs. PC are very tiering....If I find a good game on a consoll I play it, and if I find a good game on PC I play it. Simple really...
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| Posted: Thu, 14th Feb 2008 19:22 Post subject: |
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pc game sales figures probably arent right anyway, i bet they only track sales from retail stores?
i bet theres loads of console games that have worse sales than alot of average pc games
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| Posted: Thu, 14th Feb 2008 19:36 Post subject: |
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the whole problem comes from the fact the the pc is more of an elitest piece of hardware... i mean it costs heaps and you have to atleast have SOME ability to think and work though problems to keep it running well.
consoles are cheap, and the other main selling point is the ...durrr... me press start to play!! level of simplicity too them that most teen gamers love (and is the usually the only thing they can really cope with!  )... thats why consoles are where games are at. the pc is a superior platform in EVERY way.. EVERY way... its just the simplicity and price of consoles which are the only reason games sell more there, and therefore, more games are made for them.
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| Posted: Thu, 14th Feb 2008 21:20 Post subject: |
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Wow some PC users have really turned into snobs over this issue, as if you are any better then console gamers. People just have different priorities, it's as simple as that.
"Techniclly speaking, Beta-Manboi didnt inject Burberry_Massi with Benz, he injected him with liquid that had air bubbles in it, which caused benz." - House M.D
"Faith without logic is the same as knowledge without understanding; meaningless"
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| Posted: Thu, 14th Feb 2008 21:57 Post subject: |
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| streetunder wrote: | yeah... gears of war sucks so badly... wtf, just run and shoot & run and shoot!!! yay!
I dont understand how the game got so high ratings! fucking hype... |
Come again?
One of the main features of the game was that you COULDNT just run and gun. Did you even play the game?
The rts and fps-comments are so boring and expected btw. Fps have been played on consoles for a long time now and works just fine obviously. Rts games are getting better and more of them as well.
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| Posted: Thu, 14th Feb 2008 22:06 Post subject: |
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| AnimalMother wrote: | | Wow some PC users have really turned into snobs over this issue, as if you are any better then console gamers. People just have different priorities, it's as simple as that. |
I agree, this have turned into the "My dad are better then your dad" debate...it's actually quite useless if you ask me.
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| Posted: Thu, 14th Feb 2008 22:06 Post subject: |
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| Nailbiter wrote: | | streetunder wrote: | yeah... gears of war sucks so badly... wtf, just run and shoot & run and shoot!!! yay!
I dont understand how the game got so high ratings! fucking hype... |
Come again?
One of the main features of the game was that you COULDNT just run and gun. Did you even play the game?
The rts and fps-comments are so boring and expected btw. Fps have been played on consoles for a long time now and works just fine obviously. Rts games are getting better and more of them as well. |
Back to Console Arena. Anyway IMO FPS on consoles have sucked since i played Goldeneye and Turok on N64.
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| Posted: Thu, 14th Feb 2008 22:10 Post subject: |
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I disagree with what CliffyB thinks the PC is 'evolving' into (Sims, WoW, web-based ui), but the rest of what he is saying is spot on.
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| Posted: Thu, 14th Feb 2008 22:12 Post subject: |
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To be fair I have mxed feelings on this issue.
I bought a PC with an 8800 GTS 640 two months before nvidia released the 8800 GT which halved the value of my PC in a fucking swoop.
But if the PC dies then the hardware that powers the next generation of consoles will suck donkey balls?
It's a fucking tricky one.
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| Posted: Thu, 14th Feb 2008 22:27 Post subject: |
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Anyway he's just whining because Gears failed on PC.
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| Posted: Thu, 14th Feb 2008 22:42 Post subject: |
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| djaoni wrote: | | Anyway he's just whining because Gears failed on PC. |
Gears as well as UT3. No matter how Rein spins it, UT3 failed miserably. Maybe they should have made a good product, instead of making a console port shit (that goes toward both games).  |
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| Posted: Thu, 14th Feb 2008 22:50 Post subject: |
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Yes, especially menus in ut3 gave bad taste already.
They should have had it more in the vain of original ut, where it feels like an os.
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| Posted: Thu, 14th Feb 2008 22:59 Post subject: |
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| djaoni wrote: | | Anyway he's just whining because Gears failed on PC. |
Apart from Crysis there aren't many recent AAA titles which can be said to have succeeded on the PC, which is his point.
Epic are skilled developers, and to lose them is to lose a significant amount of support for the PC market. How many recent games are using the U3 engine...
"Techniclly speaking, Beta-Manboi didnt inject Burberry_Massi with Benz, he injected him with liquid that had air bubbles in it, which caused benz." - House M.D
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| Posted: Thu, 14th Feb 2008 23:03 Post subject: |
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I was amazed how much ut3 sucked, on top of that I almost had a hart attack when I the graphics and then it turned out some stupid option, that lowers what you see on the screen by half, was turned on by default WTF!? Cliffy you useless piece of shit, what kind of a game do you call that, I would rather buy 150 used condoms than your stupid game.
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| Posted: Thu, 14th Feb 2008 23:03 Post subject: |
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| Nailbiter wrote: | Yes, especially menus in ut3 gave bad taste already.
They should have had it more in the vain of original ut, where it feels like an os. |
yeah I have to agree, I loved UT2k4's option screen where it let me customized _everything_.
In UT3 it was all dumbed down and really made it feel like another washed down shooter >.<
why does he think there should only be one focus, PC or Console? CoD4 worked well on both, the devs just took the time to put in a decent enough options menu and made sure the game worked on different PC hardware.
if he is too lazy to do that then whatever, I doubt we'll miss another UT game with the exact same weapons and gameplay with upgraded graphics.
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| Posted: Thu, 14th Feb 2008 23:37 Post subject: |
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Bottom line it´s that console games are more cheap and fast to produce than pc games.
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| Posted: Thu, 14th Feb 2008 23:54 Post subject: |
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Dunno, depends on how the game is designed and produced. Main reason why most PC games come out later is because without the hardware limitations with regards to texture memory, rendering speed,etc, the market is more competitive no?
If they wanted to release games that were the same as the 360 version, by now they could probably automate the process no?
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| Posted: Thu, 14th Feb 2008 23:56 Post subject: |
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It is much easier to develop when you now where the borders and limits are exactly. Like macinstosh 
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| Posted: Fri, 15th Feb 2008 01:11 Post subject: |
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| LeoNatan wrote: | | NuclearShadow wrote: | | While PC games are much more advanced and complex. |
Are you smoking something? All recent PC games were ports, and the ones that weren't (Crysis) sucked more than the ports... |
ALL recent PC gamers were ports ??
What the fuck u smoking ??
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