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Devi-Lee




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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Dec 2008 15:51    Post subject:
I have exact same processor & graphic card & 4GB of RAM and it runs just fine. I've set my video options to auto detect and everything works great. Running vista 32 here and not using razor crack but the GTA4 securom loader.
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Tenzo




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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Dec 2008 16:20    Post subject:
why do you have 4 gig ram, and run vista 32 bit thats a waste of one gig Laughing
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asscobra
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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Dec 2008 16:25    Post subject:
ok so after hours on end testing and adjusting i found out a few things to make the game look and perform good (sort of Wink

i have a simple amd x2 4200 with a 320mb 8800gts and 3gb ram running on vista64, 180.48 nvidia drivers

i run the game at 1680x1050 rendering at high, textures at LOW, view distance 40,detail distance 40. vechicle density at 25 and shadows at 0 (cant really see any diffrence at all if i set em at a higher value)

now to the problem, the textures used to look like absolute shit and i thought it was because it was set to low, but the truth is that the game fails to load the lowres textures and use the even worse looking "distant" textures, (you can barely see what storesigns say), this has something to do with how gta handles memory both ram and vram

if i use standard memory settings without any commandline options and just the -norestrictions the textures looked like shit, stuff would pop up very late and i now know ALOT of stuff was missing at all times, basicly it wouldnt matter how i set the viewdistance cause things popped so late anyhow

now to the solution!! Very Happy you have to fool the game you have more vram than you actually do, what happens then is when the game tries to access the memory thats above what you REALLY have as vram it starts to use the ram instead, now theres a slight problem with this as the "rest of the game" also uses ram so the more you have the better results you will have, otherwise ull experiance a lil loadlag after a few hours due to a possible memleak

now to the settings that does this, theres 2 very important commands and those are:
-percentvidmem 100 <--- this commands forces the game to utilize all avail vram
and
-availablevidmem 2.0 <--- this tells the game how MUCH vram you have, 2.0 is about 530mb, 10.0 is about 2.5Gb, this is the value you have to experiment with to get it to suit your setup

so create a txt file called commandline.txt and put it in the gta root folder a typical commandline file would look something like this

-novblank -norestrictions -nomemrestrict -framelimit 0 -percentvidmem 100 -availablevidmem 2.0

note that this all has to be on the same line as far as i know for it to work properly


after you have done this everything that SHOULD be seen WILL be seen instantly theres no more annoying popups or fadeins.and the LOW textures will be really playable, not much differ from high. on my system this made a huuuuge diffrence and i really mean huge, no more missing textures/gray areas, no more of "cant see into open buildings cause of a grey sheet infront of the door" the game simply became flawless in the graphic department for me

the downside to this is that after playing a few hours you will get loadstutter as the computer starts to swap to disk

also i want to say that telling the game you have a huge amount is NOT the best solution cause you will get more stutter, you will have to find a limit slightly above what the game tells you that you need for your current graphical settings, so if it says it uses say 600mb you should tell the game you have say 700-750 and ull experiance the least loadlag

hope this helps someone, merry xmas
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Dec 2008 16:28    Post subject:
You know what? I think I'll try that. Gotta be worth a try, right?

*chuckles*

That made it at least 5x worse. Even with all settings on LOW, the microstuttering is horrific.
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asscobra
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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Dec 2008 16:38    Post subject:
bummer for ye mate, it really worked for me but we have very diffrent systems also
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Dec 2008 16:40    Post subject:
Well seeing as how I play on High/High with all sliders at halfway anyway, it's not a loss. Razz

I just wanted to see if I could squeeze a few extra frames out of the game, see if I can't get it smoother. Ah well.
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gingerninjaaaaaa
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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Dec 2008 16:41    Post subject:
Right you bunch of ignorant homosexuals.
I've asked 4 fucking twating bastard times now.
How do i stop the fucking cunting camera angle from fucking up since i installed this bastarding cunt of a fucking twat patch please?
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Dec 2008 16:42    Post subject:
*laughs*

I take it you're getting a bit miffed? Sorry bud, if I could help; I would. I've never had any issues with the camera angle (except with the first-run cracks which triggered the drunk camera) so I can't help.

Clean install. Install Razor's loader. Patch. Play.
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gingerninjaaaaaa
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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Dec 2008 16:44    Post subject:
It was all fine b4 i installed the patch Sad
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Devi-Lee




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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Dec 2008 16:45    Post subject:
Tenzo wrote:
why do you have 4 gig ram, and run vista 32 bit thats a waste of one gig Laughing


Because I got 4 gig RAM for peanuts Laughing Anyway I intend to change for Vista 64 in the near future.
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rhagz
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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Dec 2008 17:13    Post subject:
Nothing wrong with 4GB on a 32bit system. It lets you use dual channel on ~3GB at least. But yeah, go 64!
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moosenoodles




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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Dec 2008 17:32    Post subject:
gingerninjaaaaaa wrote:
It was all fine b4 i installed the patch Sad


Not sure what you mean by fucked up lol but patching hasnt changed anything for me either so far.. The only gripe i have with the camera angle is when in a car the camera does not lock to your driving directions via keys or controller.. Stupid as when on foot you can sprint along and turn with mouse and the guy follows the path ur looking at..
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gingerninjaaaaaa
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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Dec 2008 17:40    Post subject:
Well i fixed it Smile
I had to do the 2nd part of this and uninstall a usb interface.
http://www.gta4.net/news/4169/camerakeyboard-issue-with-new-patch/
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psikobare




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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Dec 2008 18:41    Post subject:
Tenzo wrote:
why do you have 4 gig ram, and run vista 32 bit thats a waste of one gig Laughing

actually, if you want more than 2gig of ram, this is not a waste
2x2Gig is cheaper than 2*1gig + 2*512mo

also, do you know how dual channel work?
in a 2*2gig configuration, both are filled at the same time
in a 2*1gig+2*512mo configuration, the two firsts rams are filled, then, when full, the two little ones are filled <-- this is waste


i will try the weird settings of asscobra


also i just wanna say i surfed (ingame) on the net, they were a site about traveling in europe, that was damn funny Laughing Laughing
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JBeckman
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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Dec 2008 20:01    Post subject:
You can see all available websites (Available in the game that is.) from the "\Grand Theft Auto IV\pc\html" folder. Smile
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Frant
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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Dec 2008 20:13    Post subject:
I don't know if this has been mentioned before but I saw a tip on some other site to turn off the video clip recorder. Apparently it's using a lot of resources to always have the last 30 seconds of game play in a buffer. I turned it off and now I can run Highest rendering and High textures, view distance @ 52 (I just set it there, haven't tried increasing it yet) and detail distance around the same, and it's smooth play. Just a tip in case it hasn't already been mentioned. Wink


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CostelD




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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Dec 2008 20:54    Post subject:
tell us how


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Karmeck




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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Dec 2008 20:55    Post subject:
That is in the option menu somewhere.


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MrVercetti




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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Dec 2008 21:43    Post subject:
Capture Clip ---> OFF
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GolfTDI




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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Dec 2008 21:49    Post subject:
What exactly does "Capture Clip ---> OFF" do?
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Newty182




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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Dec 2008 21:49    Post subject:
AKofC wrote:
And yes, there's only one ending in GTA IV because I don't think anyone of sane mind and judgement
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emppapy




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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Dec 2008 21:50    Post subject:
Installed the patch and now the audio won't work properly. It lags. For instance when I accelerate in a car the sound will appear with 3 or 4 sec delay.
Can I reinstall the game without losing my progress ?
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PauliTimmy




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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Dec 2008 23:19    Post subject:
for me the patch does nothing lol
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Dec 2008 23:22    Post subject:
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xtralong




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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Dec 2008 23:30    Post subject:
L0L!


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l0st




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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Dec 2008 23:34    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
gingerninjaaaaaa wrote:
pikachupi wrote:
patch work with cracked version?


??????
Anyone?


Works perfectly Smile



are you refering to the FEDOR LOADER?


or you managed to replace original .exe's and apply patch .01 and put back RAZOR1911 crack?


anyway at all to play online with RAZOR1911 crack?
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GolfTDI




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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Dec 2008 23:49    Post subject:
polosistealth wrote:
any of you played GTA4 with Social Club offline ?
now i'm getting >40FPS or more even at night..... i can't believe my eyes how smooth it is now Shocked


How did you get that many FPS? how do you play offline then?
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xtralong




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PostPosted: Tue, 16th Dec 2008 00:28    Post subject:
GolfTDI wrote:
polosistealth wrote:
any of you played GTA4 with Social Club offline ?
now i'm getting >40FPS or more even at night..... i can't believe my eyes how smooth it is now Shocked


How did you get that many FPS? how do you play offline then?


its the same, OFF/ON always the same fps. At least in here (20/25/30fps - outside)


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SycoShaman
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PostPosted: Tue, 16th Dec 2008 00:55    Post subject:
Since i updated with patch (i have legal version) game runs fine. There are still some issues needed to be resolved, but if you have a highend system and a legal copy, the patch will do wonders.


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Glottis
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PostPosted: Tue, 16th Dec 2008 01:05    Post subject:
SycoShaman wrote:
Since i updated with patch (i have legal version) game runs fine. There are still some issues needed to be resolved, but if you have a highend system and a legal copy, the patch will do wonders.

I consider my system high end. Patch didn't increase performance at all. I specifically did before and after benchmarks and FPS was EXACTLY THE SAME.


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