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| Stige wrote: | | red_avatar wrote: | | Stige wrote: |
Blame the shitty system, not the player.
Maybe they will fix it some day if enough people do this...
I wouldnt have taken a loss either, seems it is very easy to abuse the shitty |
Oh we very much CAN blame the player. That "blame the system" thing only works when it comes to abusing faceless corporations or governments, it does NOT work for abusing regular people. By your logic, it's fine to break into homes and steal and loot because you'll only get a small prison sentence for it if you were to get caught. |
But that is very dangerous, this has literally like almost zero risk due to how bad their system is. |
? The conviction rate for breaking and entering in germany is in the low single digits percentagewise. According to your "stealing from anyone who isn't protected by the system" argument, it's the police's fault?  Scumbags gonna scumbag I guess. |
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Roach_666
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| Posted: Sun, 5th Aug 2018 23:11 Post subject: |
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Reminds me of this movie:
 Spoiler: | Three Billboards outside Ebbing, Missouri |
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| Posted: Mon, 6th Aug 2018 05:33 Post subject: |
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based on woyzeck: morality is when one is moral
still a shitty move, the big company wont even recognize the scam most likely in the first place and will sell it again and the next customer is fucked (will have a lot of hassle) and i wont exclude the option that ebay will react different if a big company is facing them the facts of being scammed. that whole thing might backflip on you
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| Posted: Mon, 6th Aug 2018 07:52 Post subject: |
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| Janz wrote: | based on woyzeck: morality is when one is moral
still a shitty move, the big company wont even recognize the scam most likely in the first place and will sell it again and the next customer is fucked (will have a lot of hassle) and i wont exclude the option that ebay will react different if a big company is facing them the facts of being scammed. that whole thing might backflip on you |
Very true, it could have repercussions, but it would be hard to prove. It may cause hassle for whoever buys the card, yes, but they will get a replacement if it doesn't work for them, so they will be fine in the end. Items can be bought new and prove faulty regularly, it's a hassle, but only that.
I'll take the risk, and if anything does come of it, I'll take the rap and pay the consequences, and who knows?, if that does happen?, then maybe it will highlight just what really goes on on the bay, and bring it to the forefront, so that something can be done about all this nonsense once and for all.
It was eating inside of me that I would have to bin an expensive card because someone ripped me off, and if there had been any other way to solve that matter, then that route would have been taken, I can assure you of that.
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| Posted: Mon, 6th Aug 2018 21:14 Post subject: |
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| Stige wrote: | | PumpAction wrote: | | scaramonga wrote: |
Yes. I fucked someone else over to get the card back that had been scammed from me. So I pass the buck.
Like I say, nothing to be proud of, but I sure wasn't losing out on a perfectly good card, and as long as they allow it, well, that is their problem.
Not good at all, but it is what it is. I've been around long enough to know who cares and who don't - eBay/Paypal dont, so if they let it happen easily to me, then they can let it happen easily to someone else, and so on...
If that is their business practice, then they can deal with it, although, I certainly do not agree with any of it. |
You are the scum of the earth, just like the other guy who scammed you. And you didn't "get the card that had been scammed" from you. You just scammed some total stranger who had nothing to do with it. So if someone shoots your dog, you'll just go ahead and shoot the next dog that looks similar to yours to even out karma?
Some mental gymnastics you are doing there justifying your thievery. |
Blame the shitty system, not the player.
Maybe they will fix it some day if enough people do this...
I wouldnt have taken a loss either, seems it is very easy to abuse the shitty |
Wonder what perspective you'd have if you were scammed on ebay. Yeah, i'm sure you'd stick to the "blame the system, not the player" Yup.. You sure would.
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| Posted: Tue, 7th Aug 2018 02:03 Post subject: |
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I'll just add this. (just for the hell of it)
I work on 'principal', now, whether you agree with mine?, I care not a jot, not a rats ass do I care, as yours will more than likely be different.
The same 'principal' I spent a good time of my life behind bars for, and the same 'principal' I hold today, regardless.
I am one of the nicest guys ever, but fuck me off, or do me wrong, then I will say something, for sure, but rip me off, and/or screw me over, then I will come down on you like a ton of bricks, no matter the cost!, and I promise you, I will lose no sleep over it.
I really wanted to go down and kick the cunts head in, as that would have sufficed for me, but, the wife wasn't having it, unfortunately.
One mellows with age, as 10 years ago, I would have done just that, regardless of what any woman said, but there ya go 
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| Posted: Tue, 7th Aug 2018 02:48 Post subject: |
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Yeah, but I love my wife too much , so your right, there is one 
Listen. I just do not want this to happen to anyone else, I do mean that! So seriously guys, please refrain from selling on ebay, or if you must, then take all measures to try and protect yourselves beforehand.
Selling a GPU card, I'd now:
Strip it, and photograph all angles, and list said photos.
Mark the board with a UV pen with some marking that can be proved.
Photos of said UV marking, and listed also.
Put your own seals on item, photograph and list also.
Record all serials, photograph and list.
Date and time stamp every photo. (important) - list
Your name in every photo (to prove you took it) - list
The colour of the walls in your bathroom suite - list
A picture of the card back in the 1980's - list
The serial numbers of every capacitor on the board - list
The resistor values of every component on board, recorded in HD - list
The exact amount (in grams) of thermal paste - list
Your fingerprint hard coded into the circuit board - list
Your fingerprint hard coded into stock cooler - list
Screws that cannot be opened by anyone, aka, no head on them - list
A picture of you with the card standing on the Sydney Bridge. - list
.....and even after all of the above, ebay will still go against you, why?, because if the buyer is not happy, then that is good enough for the bay, and they have made their cut in the process. Yup, despite ramping up the Dilithium to go back to the 1980's, they just will not give a damn, no matter what proof or steps you have taken, as they are not interested in you (the seller) one little bit.
So, DO NOT sell anything on the bay is my recommendation, FULL STOP!
Little tip to prove it.
When it says 'no refunds or returns' (when buying), you will get your refund and be able to return anything you want, as they will always side with the buyer, and should there be a little hitch, rare, then Paypal will step in and support you (the Buyer) regardless
When you go to sell anything on the bay, it even comes up with a warning when you select 'no returns accepted', saying that, despite choosing this option, the buyer has these rights etc..., go try it out if you don't believe me
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ixigia
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| Posted: Wed, 8th Aug 2018 04:48 Post subject: |
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Oh, Scara... 
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Stige
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| Posted: Wed, 8th Aug 2018 07:36 Post subject: |
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I bet anyone here wouldnt take a 700e loss either, just people trying to act all goodygood because you are supposed to be that way, fucking sheep.
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tonizito
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| Posted: Wed, 8th Aug 2018 09:11 Post subject: |
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| ixigia wrote: | Oh, Scara...
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| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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couleur
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| Posted: Wed, 8th Aug 2018 10:47 Post subject: |
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| ixigia wrote: | Oh, Scara...
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Amazing which program do you use to make these wonders?!
1 and 2 are still amazing. |
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| Posted: Wed, 8th Aug 2018 10:57 Post subject: |
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At least we give people the chance to out themselves as not trustworthy Complaining about scammers while spouting how (ready they are) to scam themselves  The audacity and moral bankruptcy some people have 
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tonizito
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| Posted: Wed, 8th Aug 2018 11:07 Post subject: |
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Even if it's used... 
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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couleur
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| Posted: Wed, 8th Aug 2018 11:41 Post subject: |
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Hey, I got it at 384€. And its supposedly unused. (Has 2 years warranty)
I will try to see how much I can get out of it through undervolting and if that works out good enough I'll put a Raijintek Morpheus II on it.
Honestly, its the tinkering that makes me want it.
And if it doesnt undervolt well, I can just resell it for 420€ and make a bonus.
"Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-imposed nonage. Nonage is the inability to use one's own understanding without another's guidance. This nonage is self-imposed if its cause lies not in lack of understanding but in indecision and lack of courage to use one's own mind without another's guidance. Dare to know! (Sapere aude.) "Have the courage to use your own understanding," is therefore the motto of the enlightenment."
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| Posted: Wed, 8th Aug 2018 15:44 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Wed, 8th Aug 2018 17:09 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Wed, 8th Aug 2018 18:28 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Thu, 9th Aug 2018 01:40 Post subject: |
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So some other poor sap is going to get a broken/wrong GPU due to self-serving "justice"? 
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| Posted: Thu, 9th Aug 2018 02:01 Post subject: |
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| Mr.Tinkles wrote: | | So some other poor sap is going to get a broken/wrong GPU due to self-serving "justice"? |
No. Some other poor sap will have the 'luxury' of getting a refund or exchanging for one that does work, pretty damn immediately! That choice I never had, nor would I ever have, under these rules.
Of course, let's not forget about the £130 waterblock that came back to me in a state only fit for the bin also, that which it did, so I hardly call it a roaring success.
There is only ONE winner here, and that is the bastard who shafted me in the first place. He walks away with my card for free, destroys my waterblock in the process, and I lose on fees and heavy postage costs for his troubles.
I get some return, aka my card back, lose out on the rest, and the Company I ended up buying another from gets it in the neck. (they can well afford the loss)
Someone has to pay, and I'm damn sure it wasn't going to be me (well, apart from costs and a block), nor him either, as no one would do anything about it!
Fuckin right I'll lose no sleep over it!!
Up yours Ebay + Paypal!!!!!
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| Posted: Thu, 9th Aug 2018 02:08 Post subject: |
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| scaramonga wrote: | | Mr.Tinkles wrote: | | So some other poor sap is going to get a broken/wrong GPU due to self-serving "justice"? |
No. Some other poor sap will have the 'luxury' of getting a refund or exchanging for one that does work, pretty damn immediately! That choice I never had, nor would I ever have, under these rules. |
If it makes you feel better then sure, but you can't guarantee that. The company might think they're getting scammed by the other guy.
But whatever... |
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| Posted: Thu, 9th Aug 2018 02:37 Post subject: |
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| scaramonga wrote: | | Mr.Tinkles wrote: |
If it makes you feel better then sure, but you can't guarantee that. The company might think they're getting scammed by the other guy.
But whatever... |
I'm not doing it to make me feel better, and I'm not interested in how the rest pans out, as as I really don't give a toss otherwise.
We all lost (well apart from that cunt), and if it wasn't for him, then we wouldn't be here, saying scara is a big bad bastard, now would we? |
But you didn't lose, you scammed someone else (like a cunt). The company you scammed might lose, or the person who buys it might. |
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| Posted: Thu, 9th Aug 2018 02:54 Post subject: |
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| Mr.Tinkles wrote: |
But you didn't lose, you scammed someone else (like a cunt). The company you scammed might lose, or the person who buys it might. |
I lost. (around £200) block - postage - fees. The company can lose, good!, I don't give a fuck. They can afford it, I can't. The person who buys will get their refund or product regardless, as its going to be very hard to prove when boards were switched, and by whom, if at all noticed. A hassle for them?, yes. Cunt? - I've been called a lot worse, again, I'll lose no sleep.
...and you expect me to just sit here and say - 'well, that's $850 down the drain, some you win, some you lose'?
eh...no! Would you?
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