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SycoShaman
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PostPosted: Mon, 21st Aug 2006 20:53    Post subject:
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I had them once. Never again. Everything annoyed me and I have a huge mushroom poster in my kitchen and it was tripping me out. I like to pick them in the woods.


You gotta be careful, you might pick the wrong mushroom. Mushrooms can kill ya know Smile

btw, i'll reply to your pm later on...im hungover as fuck, big party yesterday Laughing Smile



You poor hung over guy. If I was there I would rub you back. Unless even that was bad then I would just leave you alone in the dark. Don't worry about the PM. All is good.

Mushroom will kill you 2-3 weeks AFTER you eat them. You get sick at first and you get better and you think you are fine. 3 weeks later you drop dead from massive organ failure.

I know enough that I can basically walk around and point, and name the compounds within each plant and what they are used for. If it is a food source or if it is used in medicine, used in the manu. of some commercial drug.

Mushroom and wild plants are kinda a bit of a hobby of mine. I make tea from all sorts of shit. I have a whole taxonomy thing that I do with mushrooms, including spore prints and stuff. I know the main common ones that will kill you. Magic mushroom are easy. The stems turn blue when you pick them. There is about 8-10 of them. I buy most of the more exotic ones.






Beer and wild turkey is a good combo.


So your a herbologist eh? Nice Laughing Smile

@bigperm

Moderation? meh, moderation isnt any fun Wink
I dont get a buzz of mushrooms unless I eat atleast a half quarter.


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PostPosted: Mon, 21st Aug 2006 20:55    Post subject:
SycoShaman wrote:
pistolshrimp wrote:
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You gotta be careful, you might pick the wrong mushroom. Mushrooms can kill ya know Smile

btw, i'll reply to your pm later on...im hungover as fuck, big party yesterday Laughing Smile



You poor hung over guy. If I was there I would rub you back. Unless even that was bad then I would just leave you alone in the dark. Don't worry about the PM. All is good.

Mushroom will kill you 2-3 weeks AFTER you eat them. You get sick at first and you get better and you think you are fine. 3 weeks later you drop dead from massive organ failure.

I know enough that I can basically walk around and point, and name the compounds within each plant and what they are used for. If it is a food source or if it is used in medicine, used in the manu. of some commercial drug.

Mushroom and wild plants are kinda a bit of a hobby of mine. I make tea from all sorts of shit. I have a whole taxonomy thing that I do with mushrooms, including spore prints and stuff. I know the main common ones that will kill you. Magic mushroom are easy. The stems turn blue when you pick them. There is about 8-10 of them. I buy most of the more exotic ones.






Beer and wild turkey is a good combo.


So your a herbologist eh? Nice Laughing Smile

@bigperm

Moderation? meh, moderation isnt any fun Wink
I dont get a buzz of mushrooms unless I eat atleast a half quarter.




There is quite a bit of shit growing around the city that can get you really high. I find is shocking that nobody knows about it.
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PostPosted: Mon, 21st Aug 2006 20:57    Post subject:
pistolshrimp wrote:
SycoShaman wrote:
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You poor hung over guy. If I was there I would rub you back. Unless even that was bad then I would just leave you alone in the dark. Don't worry about the PM. All is good.

Mushroom will kill you 2-3 weeks AFTER you eat them. You get sick at first and you get better and you think you are fine. 3 weeks later you drop dead from massive organ failure.

I know enough that I can basically walk around and point, and name the compounds within each plant and what they are used for. If it is a food source or if it is used in medicine, used in the manu. of some commercial drug.

Mushroom and wild plants are kinda a bit of a hobby of mine. I make tea from all sorts of shit. I have a whole taxonomy thing that I do with mushrooms, including spore prints and stuff. I know the main common ones that will kill you. Magic mushroom are easy. The stems turn blue when you pick them. There is about 8-10 of them. I buy most of the more exotic ones.






Beer and wild turkey is a good combo.


So your a herbologist eh? Nice Laughing Smile

@bigperm

Moderation? meh, moderation isnt any fun Wink
I dont get a buzz of mushrooms unless I eat atleast a half quarter.



There is quite a bit of shit growing around the city that can get you really high. I find is shocking that nobody knows about it.


Such as? Smile




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PostPosted: Mon, 21st Aug 2006 21:08    Post subject:
SycoShaman wrote:
pistolshrimp wrote:
SycoShaman wrote:


So your a herbologist eh? Nice Laughing Smile

@bigperm

Moderation? meh, moderation isnt any fun Wink
I dont get a buzz of mushrooms unless I eat atleast a half quarter.


Such as? Smile

There is quite a bit of shit growing around the city that can get you really high. I find is shocking that nobody knows about it.



Morning Glory for one. audio + visual hallicinogen, quite strong, Lawn mower mushrooms (But only back east and they aren't strong. I have night shade (bella Donna) growing in my garden. The Europeen one is better tho. Tones of Psilocybe's out there. Don't try these tho. I don't know how much is safe and you take too much (night shade) will kill you.
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PostPosted: Mon, 21st Aug 2006 21:10    Post subject:
pistolshrimp wrote:
SycoShaman wrote:
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Such as? Smile

There is quite a bit of shit growing around the city that can get you really high. I find is shocking that nobody knows about it.



Morning Glory for one. audio + visual hallicinogen, quite strong, Lawn mower mushrooms (But only back east and they aren't strong. I have night shade (bella Donna) growing in my garden. The Europeen one is better tho. Tones of Psilocybe's out there. Don't try these tho. I don't know how much is safe and you take too much (night shade) will kill you.


Morning glory? that sounds sexual some how Laughing

Maybe I should get a book on mushrooms/fungi and see what i have growing in my back yard. Smile


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PostPosted: Mon, 21st Aug 2006 23:23    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd Aug 2006 05:17    Post subject:
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Morning Glory for one. audio + visual hallicinogen, quite strong, Lawn mower mushrooms (But only back east and they aren't strong. I have night shade (bella Donna) growing in my garden. The Europeen one is better tho. Tones of Psilocybe's out there. Don't try these tho. I don't know how much is safe and you take too much (night shade) will kill you.


Morning glory? that sounds sexual some how Laughing

Maybe I should get a book on mushrooms/fungi and see what i have growing in my back yard. Smile


Morning Glory (Oasis did a song about it) It is a vine like plant that grows everywhere. White cup like flowers. Ya want the seeds and have to grind them up but I think the flowers and leaves may work too. I have heard it being called Gibson weed too. BUt don't do it cuz it can fuck you up and I don't know anyone who has done it.

You won't have anything growing in your back yard. I am 95% sure. I think you are safer buying off someone who has actually grown them. The stem turning blue is a dead give away. Quite a process in finding out exactly which one you have, even then you aren't sure. You have to try a bit the day you pick them and see if you get sick. Then you know it is safe to eat more of them. Lots of people have allergies to them too. Some people develop an allergie to all mushrooms (commercal) after an allergy attack on some of the rarer ones.

There is a resort spa on Vancouver Island and they have this mushroom monk. He is a Francestian (sp) monk (don't know what that is) He takes you out on a mushroom hunt and then you go back to the hotel and your group cooks them up in a 6 course meal. I think it sounds cool and it would be nice to talk to someone who has practical experience with them. It isn't that much money if you don't use or take a room at the spa. I would take a $15 campground instead and sleep in my van. (I sleep really good on that bed) I would even have a plug in too so I could use as much power as I wanted.

I have the best book. If you go to buy one check mine out first.


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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd Aug 2006 15:02    Post subject:
pistolshrimp wrote:
SycoShaman wrote:
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Morning Glory for one. audio + visual hallicinogen, quite strong, Lawn mower mushrooms (But only back east and they aren't strong. I have night shade (bella Donna) growing in my garden. The Europeen one is better tho. Tones of Psilocybe's out there. Don't try these tho. I don't know how much is safe and you take too much (night shade) will kill you.


Morning glory? that sounds sexual some how Laughing

Maybe I should get a book on mushrooms/fungi and see what i have growing in my back yard. Smile


Morning Glory (Oasis did a song about it) It is a vine like plant that grows everywhere. White cup like flowers. Ya want the seeds and have to grind them up but I think the flowers and leaves may work too. I have heard it being called Gibson weed too. BUt don't do it cuz it can fuck you up and I don't know anyone who has done it.

You won't have anything growing in your back yard. I am 95% sure. I think you are safer buying off someone who has actually grown them. The stem turning blue is a dead give away. Quite a process in finding out exactly which one you have, even then you aren't sure. You have to try a bit the day you pick them and see if you get sick. Then you know it is safe to eat more of them. Lots of people have allergies to them too. Some people develop an allergie to all mushrooms (commercal) after an allergy attack on some of the rarer ones.

There is a resort spa on Vancouver Island and they have this mushroom monk. He is a Francestian (sp) monk (don't know what that is) He takes you out on a mushroom hunt and then you go back to the hotel and your group cook them up in a 6 course meal. I think it sounds cool and it would be nice to talk to someone who has practical experience with them. It isn't that much money if you don't use or take a room at the spa. I would take a $15 campground instead and sleep in the Van. I would even have a plug in too so I could use as much power as I wanted.

I have the best book. If you go to buy one check mine out first.


Shrooms are...let me see if i remember...Fly Alargic mushrooms right?
I know a little bit about mushrooms.
The shrooms ive done have all been grown indoor..you know, mason jars, spores, dark closet, 8 weeks. So they were safe right.
The only mushrooms ive done from bc were pinkish red with a blue stem - those were really good and i tripped balls off them.

still, i dont do mushrooms anymore. the last time i did them my bud and i almost little killed each other...like we got into a huge fight and other friends had to separate us.
We were chillin in my house and i had just woken up and my hair was all crazy looking. Anyway, he looks at me with this terrified face and starts calling me the devil and started punching me. So we fought it out a little then our friends, who were killin themselves laughing, pulled us apart. The scary part was I was gunna fuck him up good..I was trying to hurt him and he's a good friend on mine.
After that, we decided never to drop shrooms again.
Any drug that makes u hallucinate i dont touch. I dont like trippin anymore. My trips start out good, I laugh and am friendly, but then I get really mean and nasty after a while.
Dont like it at all
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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd Aug 2006 19:26    Post subject:
Fly Alargic are completely different. They look like the Alice in wonderland mushrooms. They one is in a completely different species then the other psilocybes. Stem doesn’t turn blue either. Generally those patchy scales mean poison anyway. They are hallucinogenic but they are fall more dangerous then the reg ones.



Crazy hair. Like mine. When I did them I wasn’t mean or anything but I was counting down the hrs. And I certainly didn’t see any devils in people I know. LOL I went to bed and I could hear the blade shish by every single spoke in the fan. So annoying. And sweating. Did you sweat. I was sweating from places I didn’t know I could sweat from. My hair, cheeks, my feet. It wasn’t fun at all. Mine were old tho and I that might have something to do with it. I had them in a bag in a dresser for about 7 months before I ever did them.



I am drinking COKE!!! I never drink coke , I like my water bottles too much. That is the great thing about other people staying in your house. I come back and there is ice cream, coke, beer, and apple pie in my fridge.
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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd Aug 2006 19:32    Post subject:
pistolshrimp: Oh noes! So much sugar! Stop it!
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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd Aug 2006 19:34    Post subject:
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pistolshrimp: Oh noes! So much sugar! Stop it!



I know. I haven't had reg coke in maybe over a year. It is so good I might have a second can. YES I have more in the fridge!! Sweet syrupy slop. Yummy.
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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd Aug 2006 20:12    Post subject:
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pistolshrimp: Oh noes! So much sugar! Stop it!



I know. I haven't had reg coke in maybe over a year. It is so good I might have a second can. YES I have more in the fridge!! Sweet syrupy slop. Yummy.


i dont like coke anymore. if you only drink water you can taste the difference in every brand , some brands will be better then other. Coke is only if you want some energy, but even then fresh orange juice is ten times better


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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd Aug 2006 20:27    Post subject:
JeanPerrier wrote:
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deelix wrote:
pistolshrimp: Oh noes! So much sugar! Stop it!



I know. I haven't had reg coke in maybe over a year. It is so good I might have a second can. YES I have more in the fridge!! Sweet syrupy slop. Yummy.


i dont like coke anymore. if you only drink water you can taste the difference in every brand , some brands will be better then other. Coke is only if you want some energy, but even then fresh orange juice is ten times better



I love orange juice in the morning. Grapefruit too. I sweeze it myself so it is fresh. Sometimes I use one grapefruit and one orange. Coke is good when you haven't had it for a very long time. If I only drink one drink for the rest of my life, would have to be water. Dasani water my preference.
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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd Aug 2006 20:30    Post subject:
Orange juice is good for the health but not the teeths :\ ..pretty high on the ph scale.
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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd Aug 2006 20:49    Post subject:
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Orange juice is good for the health but not the teeths :\ ..pretty high on the ph scale.


I don't really think it is the Ph that rots your teeth. It is the waste product produced by bacteria feeding on the suger that rots your teeth
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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd Aug 2006 21:45    Post subject:
Nah, iv heard its the acid.
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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd Aug 2006 21:47    Post subject:
you're both right ... the acid damages teeth so bacteria can rot them Wink

and coke is not the worst either

http://www.agd.org/media/2005/feb/sport_bev.asp

Quote:
The study findings revealed that there was significant enamel damage associated with all beverages tested. Results, listed from greatest to least damage to dental enamel, include the following: lemonade, energy drinks, sports drinks, fitness water, ice tea and cola. Most cola-based drinks may contain one or more acids, commonly phosphoric and citric acids; however, sports beverages contain other additives and organic acids that can advance dental erosion. These organic acids are potentially very erosive to dental enamel because of their ability to breakdown calcium, which is needed to strengthen teeth and prevent gum disease.


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:-* stop doing drugs.

No! lol Razz
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:-* stop doing drugs.

No! lol Razz



So what is your fav drug?
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PostPosted: Wed, 23rd Aug 2006 02:51    Post subject:
pistolshrimp wrote:
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Dazz99 wrote:
:-* stop doing drugs.

No! lol Razz



So what is your fav drug?


Weed is my drug of choice. Safe natural, and if ya get the right shit fucks ya up good and hard lol. That and good ole fashion Jack Daniels. Ive done just about every drug there is though, and been addicted too one, but now its just weed it gets the fuckin job done lol Wink
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PostPosted: Wed, 23rd Aug 2006 07:24    Post subject:
pistolshrimp wrote:
Fly Alargic are completely different. They look like the Alice in wonderland mushrooms. They one is in a completely different species then the other psilocybes. Stem doesn’t turn blue either. Generally those patchy scales mean poison anyway. They are hallucinogenic but they are fall more dangerous then the reg ones.



Crazy hair. Like mine. When I did them I wasn’t mean or anything but I was counting down the hrs. And I certainly didn’t see any devils in people I know. LOL I went to bed and I could hear the blade shish by every single spoke in the fan. So annoying. And sweating. Did you sweat. I was sweating from places I didn’t know I could sweat from. My hair, cheeks, my feet. It wasn’t fun at all. Mine were old tho and I that might have something to do with it. I had them in a bag in a dresser for about 7 months before I ever did them.



I am drinking COKE!!! I never drink coke , I like my water bottles too much. That is the great thing about other people staying in your house. I come back and there is ice cream, coke, beer, and apple pie in my fridge.


Those are the shrooms im talking about. Those are the ones ive done, tripped out looking blue and pink caps and a couple other colours. I go by colours Smile Laughing

Yeah, I sweat a ton when im on mushrooms. Not normal sweating tho, like chem sweats. You end up feelin all slimy and slick and a shower doesnt get rid of the feeling...I hate that.
Almost as bad as sweating when your on yayo, thats the worst. Drinkin, dancing and yayo is a fuckin dangerous (but fun usually) combination.

Still, I sweat off of most drugs except weed. E makes me sweat, coke, meth, acid, shrooms etc
Chem sweats are so nasty, i hate em

Ice cream and coke is good. Smile I like root beer and vanilla ice cream. So good Smile
Ive been eating a bucket of KFC all day. I bought a 28 (or 30, whatever it is) meal and have been munching all day Smile Im outta milk tho Sad


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PostPosted: Wed, 23rd Aug 2006 20:01    Post subject:
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@bigperm

Moderation? meh, moderation isnt any fun Wink
I dont get a buzz of mushrooms unless I eat atleast a half quarter.


Seriously man. I swore to never do mush again. I used to take way to much, trip, carpet came alive etc. And it was fun for a while. But i took them in a bad state of mind, and didnt have fun.

So i havent touched them in like 10 years, and my buddie was like wtf, mush if my favorite. I said, to intense man; dont like em.

Well i took about a 1/2 G through out the night. 3 stems, about 1 every 2-3 hours and i had my best mush experience ever. No tripping, no visuals. But you know the first hour when they kick in, when everything becomes enlightened, and you just laugh and laugh. Now imagine that for the entire night. And then, the kicker. Zero gut rot, sleep like a baby, and no hang over.
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PostPosted: Wed, 23rd Aug 2006 23:34    Post subject:
jus c for me ... expensive but no real side effects afterwards. just be careful if you have weak heart. otherwise is dope numero uno Wink


and do not use it while drinking water or orange juice like someone mentioned some posts up. get loaded first with short drinks like whiskey cola or gin tonic. then get a major line. drink further and take at regular time other lines to keep going Wink

women like it without knowing it
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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Aug 2006 05:40    Post subject:
*WARNING* approx 90% of adolescent patients I work with found their way to the mental hospital thanks to drugs *WARNING*

Don't try 'em when your mind is still developing as most will permanently alter the way your brain works. That said, a house party just aint the same without copious amounts of charlie!
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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Aug 2006 15:44    Post subject:
CobbMk2 wrote:
*WARNING* approx 90% of adolescent patients I work with found their way to the mental hospital thanks to drugs *WARNING*

Don't try 'em when your mind is still developing as most will permanently alter the way your brain works. That said, a house party just aint the same without copious amounts of charlie!


That's true, it's why ANYONE under 18 should be denied drugs imo, including alcohol if used in large numbers.
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CobbMk2 wrote:
*WARNING* approx 90% of adolescent patients I work with found their way to the mental hospital thanks to drugs *WARNING*

Don't try 'em when your mind is still developing as most will permanently alter the way your brain works. That said, a house party just aint the same without copious amounts of charlie!


lol I was shooting heroin by age 12 Razz and I turned out just fine lol Wink
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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Aug 2006 17:55    Post subject:
DopeSickKid wrote:
CobbMk2 wrote:
*WARNING* approx 90% of adolescent patients I work with found their way to the mental hospital thanks to drugs *WARNING*

Don't try 'em when your mind is still developing as most will permanently alter the way your brain works. That said, a house party just aint the same without copious amounts of charlie!


lol I was shooting heroin by age 12 Razz and I turned out just fine lol Wink

What are you russian or something?

Didn't go to well for that boy in the movie posted in flurl... :\
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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Aug 2006 18:42    Post subject:
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@bigperm

Moderation? meh, moderation isnt any fun Wink
I dont get a buzz of mushrooms unless I eat atleast a half quarter.


Seriously man. I swore to never do mush again. I used to take way to much, trip, carpet came alive etc. And it was fun for a while. But i took them in a bad state of mind, and didnt have fun.

So i havent touched them in like 10 years, and my buddie was like wtf, mush if my favorite. I said, to intense man; dont like em.

Well i took about a 1/2 G through out the night. 3 stems, about 1 every 2-3 hours and i had my best mush experience ever. No tripping, no visuals. But you know the first hour when they kick in, when everything becomes enlightened, and you just laugh and laugh. Now imagine that for the entire night. And then, the kicker. Zero gut rot, sleep like a baby, and no hang over.


I havent done shrooms in a long time.

Im not into anything cept weed and booze now but i may just try that. Grab a gram and eat half, wait 2 hours and eat the other half.
I love the laughing trips and mild visuals (like walls melting and shadows comin alive, thats the best).

Acid is the best, at the beginning of the trip for laughing. My one friend and I used to drop 5 hits a day when we were 15-17 or so. Man, best times of my life...aside from the few bad trips i had.

Wanna hear a funny story? My best friend moved when we were kids to texas and came back when we were 15 (well, he's 2 years older). Anyway, we were into cid and shit and would trip balls all day long.
One of his buddies from texas decided to come up for 2 weeks during one summer. My friend's parents went away for the weekend. Anyway, we grabbed a buncha cid and wanted to trip all weekend. So me and my boy drop the normal 5 hits. The guy from texas starts callin us pussies and drops 12 hits. And this was good acid...5 hits was a good 15 hour trip, like hardcore visuals and shit.
Anyway, we're jammin outside, layin on the grass trippin to the clouds and shit. Then the texas guy said he needed a drink a went into the house. like 5 hours later we realized he didnt come back out so we went inside to find him, make sure he's ok. Long story short, we found him dripping sweat, locked in my bud's closet talkin about how the midgets are after him and he cant leave his 'shell' Laughing The only time he'd open the closet would be to ring out his shirt because he was drenched...he spent the whole day and half the next day in closet tripping...Ive never laughed so hard in my life Laughing That was the best trip ive had...the one guy had us laughing for hours and hours Laughing Laughing
Just thinkin about it makes me crack up laughing

Ever done lsd?


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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Aug 2006 18:45    Post subject:
DopeSickKid wrote:
CobbMk2 wrote:
*WARNING* approx 90% of adolescent patients I work with found their way to the mental hospital thanks to drugs *WARNING*

Don't try 'em when your mind is still developing as most will permanently alter the way your brain works. That said, a house party just aint the same without copious amounts of charlie!


lol I was shooting heroin by age 12 Razz and I turned out just fine lol Wink


Even tho your joking, stickin yourself isnt fuckin cool man.
Heroin is a dirty fuckin drug and shouldnt be joked around with. Ive seen so many ppl lose their lives to the horse and its fuckin sad. It consumes you.


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