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@Grale: Have you tried with 3G signal ? As I mentioned at "Apple are fucking insane" thread, short circuit-ing halves of case seem to affect 3G signal only.
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| Posted: Fri, 25th Jun 2010 22:31 Post subject: |
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If some people have the signal problem and some don't , could it be a faulty batch?
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| Posted: Fri, 25th Jun 2010 22:59 Post subject: |
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| VGAdeadcafe wrote: | | Grale wrote: | | no bad screen problems either thank god. |
what bad screen probs  |
Yellow spots, lines, tints. |
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| Posted: Fri, 25th Jun 2010 23:02 Post subject: |
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| WhiteBarbarian wrote: | | @Grale: Have you tried with 3G signal ? As I mentioned at "Apple are fucking insane" thread, short circuit-ing halves of case seem to affect 3G signal only. |
Ahh now i don't know if i had a 3G connection at the time, i didn't realize it was a only with 3G. i will test more tommorow and see what happens with 3G. cheers
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| Posted: Sat, 26th Jun 2010 00:18 Post subject: |
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as much as I love to hate apple ... why the fuck are you not using a protective bumper on it? I wouldn't consider leaving the house without one on my phone.
apple should just send everyone who bought one a case for free...although I guess that means they actually have to admit there is a problem (which given they act like nazis, they are unlikely to do).
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| Posted: Sat, 26th Jun 2010 01:50 Post subject: |
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@Grale: Thanks in advance, will be waiting for your report 
@nouseforaname: I never use protective cases for anything, the same way I never put tv remotes in polyethylene or similar protection wrappers, it feels just wrong. I am not a rapper for christ sake, they tend to even wrap their furniture in protective clothing. Then USSR collapsed and all foreign videos mass flooded tv here, there were a lot of such videos and movies promoting such live style - the horrors 
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| Posted: Sat, 26th Jun 2010 03:02 Post subject: |
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there's no way I would step out of my house with a $300 phone and no protection, to each his own I guess. I use a ifrogz luxe red/black slip for mine.
Honestly though I'm not a fan of any cases at all, wish I could rock the phone bare cause it looks so damn sexy. I can't be trusted with that, I'm too damn clumsy.
Rubber cases fucking suck BTW if you plan on keeping that shit in your pocket, ever try take one out of a tight pocket? It looks like your try to jerk off...
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| Posted: Sat, 26th Jun 2010 15:15 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sat, 26th Jun 2010 18:03 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sat, 26th Jun 2010 19:22 Post subject: |
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.... I thought Steve Jobs said it was a "non issue" and that various Macfag apologists said it was hardware, not software? Turns out both were wrong....
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| Posted: Sat, 26th Jun 2010 21:06 Post subject: |
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I thought it was stated that it's only a visual bug, and that the bars were not correctly relaying the signal strength on the screen.
Even the tech sites noted that when their service dropped to one bar, or even no service they were still able to make calls that did not get dropped.
Time will tell I guess.
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| Posted: Sat, 26th Jun 2010 22:53 Post subject: |
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I also read that the reception notification only applies to 3G and that if 3G stops, GSM and other methods of communication still worked just fine, right?
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| Posted: Mon, 28th Jun 2010 10:44 Post subject: |
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No, they all cut out.
In some areas where signal is strong, everything is fine. In others, you loose all reception and unable to make calls even.
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| Posted: Mon, 28th Jun 2010 10:54 Post subject: |
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Jesus... and this on a £400 phone..
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| Posted: Mon, 28th Jun 2010 15:10 Post subject: |
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£600 phone you mean
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| Posted: Mon, 28th Jun 2010 15:15 Post subject: |
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| Horrordee wrote: | No, they all cut out.
In some areas where signal is strong, everything is fine. In others, you loose all reception and unable to make calls even. |
my 3g cuts out. when i use the metro and there's no signal for more than 12 minutes... it takes a while for it to get the signal back when im above ground.  but it's cool. I have music 
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| Posted: Mon, 28th Jun 2010 15:45 Post subject: |
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 Seriously Sabin..? Seriously? You need to ask?  This is Apple after all. |
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| Posted: Fri, 2nd Jul 2010 18:34 Post subject: |
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John Gruber's translation From Apple’s Unique Dialect of PR-Speak to English of the ‘Letter From Apple Regarding iPhone 4’
Friday, 2 July 2010
Source: “Letter From Apple Regarding iPhone 4”.
>> The iPhone 4 has been the most successful product launch in Apple’s history. It has been judged by
>> reviewers around the world to be the best smartphone ever, and users have told us that they love it.
>> So we were surprised when we read reports of reception problems, and we immediately began
>> investigating them. Here is what we have learned.
We cannot believe we had to write this fucking letter.
>> To start with, gripping almost any mobile phone in certain ways will reduce its reception by 1 or
>> more bars. This is true of iPhone 4, iPhone 3GS, as well as many Droid, Nokia and RIM phones.
We cannot believe we’re getting shit for this.
>> But some users have reported that iPhone 4 can drop 4 or 5 bars when tightly held in a way which
>> covers the black strip in the lower left corner of the metal band. This is a far bigger drop than
>> normal, and as a result some have accused the iPhone 4 of having a faulty antenna design.
(No translation necessary.)
>> At the same time, we continue to read articles and receive hundreds of emails from users saying that
>> iPhone 4 reception is better than the iPhone 3GS. They are delighted. This matches our own
>> experience and testing. What can explain all of this?
It really is a better antenna and gets better reception(1), overall, than any previous iPhone. That’s
really the hell of this whole goddamn situation. It’s like a two steps forward, one step back
design, except maybe more like three steps forward, because this thing is faster at downloading, 10
times faster at uploading, and most importantly is better at not dropping calls with a weak signal.
But, yes, there’s that one step back, wherein it can suffer from unintended attenuation when you
bridge the lower-left antenna gap with your skin, and frankly, we’re a little pissed that this one
step back is getting all the attention.
(1) - http://www.anandtech.com/show/3794/the-iphone-4-review/2
>> We have discovered the cause of this dramatic drop in bars, and it is both simple and surprising.
We are going to blame AT&T.
>> Upon investigation, we were stunned to find that the formula we use to calculate how many bars of
>> signal strength to display is totally wrong. Our formula, in many instances, mistakenly displays 2
>> more bars than it should for a given signal strength. For example, we sometimes display 4 bars when
>> we should be displaying as few as 2 bars.
We decided from the outset to set the formula for our bars-of-signal strength indicator(2) to make the
iPhone look good — to make it look as it “gets more bars”. That decision has now bit us on our ass.
(2) - http://fscked.co.uk/post/754590440/this-infographic-hopefully-shows-that-im-not
>> Users observing a drop of several bars when they grip their iPhone in a certain way are most likely
>> in an area with very weak signal strength, but they don’t know it because we are erroneously
>> displaying 4 or 5 bars. Their big drop in bars is because their high bars were never real in the
>> first place.
Yes, with no case on the phone, your signal strength can drop by about 20 or even 30 percent
depending how you hold the phone. We’re going to change the bar algorithm so that you’ll only lose
one bar (maybe two, if you’re holding the phone obnoxiously tight or have gross sweaty palms) if
you’re holding it that way.
>> To fix this, we are adopting AT&T’s recently recommended formula for calculating how many bars to
>> display for a given signal strength. The real signal strength remains the same, but the iPhone’s
>> bars will report it far more accurately, providing users a much better indication of the reception
>> they will get in a given area. We are also making bars 1, 2 and 3 a bit taller so they will be
>> easier to see.
We are braced for the backlash when, after installing this update, people who weren’t experiencing
any problems at all with their iPhones start complaining, loudly, that their phones which used to
get five bars now only get three or two or whatever from the same locations, and we all know — us
and everyone reading this — that Gizmodo will immediately declare that the update has made iPhone 4
reception worse, even though we’ve just explained that we’re not changing anything related to actual
reception, but rather only to how we indicate signal strength.
>> We will issue a free software update within a few weeks that incorporates the corrected formula.
>> Since this mistake has been present since the original iPhone, this software update will also be
>> available for the iPhone 3GS and iPhone 3G.
(No translation necessary.)
>> We have gone back to our labs and retested everything, and the results are the same — the iPhone 4’s
>> wireless performance is the best we have ever shipped. For the vast majority of users who have not
>> been troubled by this issue, this software update will only make your bars more accurate. For those
>> who have had concerns, we apologize for any anxiety we may have caused.
Don’t fuck this thing up for us. We mean, have you seen the Retina Display?
>> As a reminder, if you are not fully satisfied, you can return your undamaged iPhone to any Apple
>> Retail Store or the online Apple Store within 30 days of purchase for a full refund.
We dare you.
And take your class action suits(3) filed four days after we released the goddamn thing and stick them
up your fucking asses.
(3) - http://www.loopinsight.com/2010/07/01/apple-att-sued-over-iphone-4-reception/
>> We hope you love the iPhone 4 as much as we do.
Seriously, have you seen it?
>> Thank you for your patience and support.
Don’t hold it that way or buy a case.
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| Posted: Fri, 2nd Jul 2010 18:42 Post subject: |
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Iphone signal problems, a fix coming in a 'few weeks'
Their excuse:
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Upon investigation, we were stunned to find that the formula we use to calculate how many bars of signal strength to display is totally wrong. Our formula, in many instances, mistakenly displays 2 more bars than it should for a given signal strength. For example, we sometimes display 4 bars when we should be displaying as few as 2 bars. Users observing a drop of several bars when they grip their iPhone in a certain way are most likely in an area with very weak signal strength, but they don't know it because we are erroneously displaying 4 or 5 bars. Their big drop in bars is because their high bars were never real in the first place.
To fix this, we are adopting AT&T's recently recommended formula for calculating how many bars to display for a given signal strength. The real signal strength remains the same, but the iPhone's bars will report it far more accurately, providing users a much better indication of the reception they will get in a given area. We are also making bars 1, 2 and 3 a bit taller so they will be easier to see.
We will issue a free software update within a few weeks that incorporates the corrected formula. Since this mistake has been present since the original iPhone, this software update will also be available for the iPhone 3GS and iPhone 3G. |
http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/02/apple-iphone-4-reception-problems-a-software-issue-fix-coming/
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| Posted: Fri, 2nd Jul 2010 19:14 Post subject: |
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Its complete bullshit. Updating the visual representation of signal isn't going to make my phone WORK any better.
Either they'll fix the ACTUAL issue secretly (i.e. some firmware change that means the phone interprets the signal change better) or they won't and I for one will never buy one of their shitty phones again.
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| Posted: Fri, 2nd Jul 2010 21:10 Post subject: |
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I am laughing so hard at this epic fail (and coverup) by Apple. What a trash company, trash CEO..They should have disappeared years ago. Best decision I made was to buy my Commodore 64 over the piece of trash Apple ][e .
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