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New mission. I need a case to fit all that shit into.
I was thinking about fractal r4 but its too wide... 232mm is about 20 to much i think. Dang it.
What else in that price range?
I am in love with nzxt Phantom but its too expensive I am afraid. What about it's smaller brother 410 ?
nzxt h2? (This one is really interesting)
bitfenix ghost?
fractal r3?
fractal 300?
corsair 300r?
THERE IS SO MUCH FUCKING cases. 100-120$ please. Flashy or not, I dont care. I want it to be stylish, silent and decent air for overclocking gpu and cpu inside
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| Posted: Wed, 24th Oct 2012 23:22 Post subject: |
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Cases are very personal, I doubt anyone here can give you a good answer. I'd personally go for the 300R, it has good reviews and I've seen it in real life (a friend has it).
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| Posted: Wed, 24th Oct 2012 23:24 Post subject: |
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Then just throw in names and review what I list/other list.
THERE IS SO MUCH. I want it silent and with good airflow. That means 2/3 fans included. rubber feets inside. dumping material is nice etc. the looks? what ever
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| Posted: Wed, 24th Oct 2012 23:33 Post subject: |
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Any case in that pricerange will do what you want, IF you make sure it is set up correctly. I'd advise to buy the 300R for example, get 2 proven to be good fans and set them up right. That's it. Don't rely on fans, or anything really, that comes with the case (unless you buy a top class case for good money). Why limit yourself to what the producer of the case deems good?
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I got a CoolerMaster Haf 912 for $50 USD and couldn't be happier with it. Solid as a tank and good cooling.
Well not that i think of it, i would prefer the PSU to be mounted on top like my old case (bottom mounted PSU makes cable management harder, at least with my PSU) and the front USB ports are only 2.0. But cant beat it for the money.
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| Posted: Thu, 25th Oct 2012 08:08 Post subject: |
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| KillerCrocker wrote: | Then just throw in names and review what I list/other list.
THERE IS SO MUCH. I want it silent and with good airflow. That means 2/3 fans included. rubber feets inside. dumping material is nice etc. the looks? what ever |
From your examples - get the Fractal Design R3.
BF Ghost is not so quiet (open top).
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| Posted: Fri, 26th Oct 2012 00:39 Post subject: |
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ok, finals.
It all comes down to these 11 cases. all have dust filters, al have 2/3 fans, all have usb/headphones on top
BitFenix Ghost
Fractal Design Define R3
fractal design define R4
Fractal Design CORE 3000
Xigmatek Midgard II
Xigmatek Pantheon
NZXT Phantom 410
NZXT H2
Corsair Carbide 500R
CM Storm Enforcer
Thermaltake Chaser MK-1
damn hard to choose one
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| Posted: Fri, 26th Oct 2012 07:52 Post subject: |
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This thread reminds me one of those DV2 threads.
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| Posted: Fri, 26th Oct 2012 07:59 Post subject: |
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The Fractal R4, which I have since a week is a very nice case. The two included 14mm fans plus one 12mm cooltek fan from my previous case are completely silent at 7v (on the integrated fan control), which is enough to have a good airflow. The case has a few gimmics that make it practical, like the easily removable dust filters. It can easily take big coolers like the Thermalright Macho but it could use a few mm more on the cable management side. The possibility to install two ssds behind the mobo seems nice at first just dont forget to do it before you install the mobo. Unlike me lol. But I just put them side by side under the 5,25" slot under the DVD drive.
Eventhough the included fans are completely silent, dont expect the dampening material to help against a noisy gfx-card or a noisy PSU-fan. The PSU-fan of my corsair 450 VX for example is still too loud, but overall the thing is silent enough for me. This is not a problem of the case but of the components you put inside.
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| Mister_s wrote: | Well the verdict is in, I bought the systems! I went for the 3570K over the 2500K since 1) getting crazy OCs with the 2500K seems to be near impossible with aircooling anyway (arctic i30 in my case, thanks to Werelds for mentioning that cooler!), 2) IPC with 3570K is better so 3570K at 4.6Ghz is about the same as 2500K at 4.9Ghz and 3) 3570K is newer. For a 10 euros price difference here, the 3570 won. Just pointing out in case anyone else has this dilemma.
The Asrock Z77 Pro3 is also a great motherboard for a great price, winner of legitreviews' "sub-100$ motherboards" contest. I do wish I could dish out 150 euros for a sexy mobo though 
Thanks for all the advice guys. |
Yeah, I also had the 2500K vs 3570K dilemma and I chose the latter. My budget was very strict though, so I haven't bought everything ... yet. I've yet to buy a decent 100-200 USD range CPU cooler (processor's running at stock speed currently), and a second pair of memory sticks. Yes, yes, I know they're cheap as hell now, but honestly I don't feel as if I needed more than my current 4GB. Maybe I'll change my mind in the near future, after Far Cry 3 has finally been released. I can't tell for sure, however. 
As for a budget motherboard, I went for Gigabyte GA-Z77-D3H (do not confuse with GA-Z77-DS3H). Works perfectly fine. Besides, I'm not interested in extreme overclocking. Just assemble the whole thing, and let it work. 
I was pleasantly surprised at how much better 3570K performs in CPU-limited games comparing to my old C2Q 9400 @3.2GHz. Take Prototype 2 for example - poorly optimized, poorly threaded, therefore highly CPU dependent.
C2Q 9400 @3.2GHz - 30 FPS on average; with drops to 25
Core i5 3570K @ 3.4GHz (3.8GHz at Turbo mode) - between 50 - 60 FPS
Furthermore, I haven't experienced those annoying drops to 15FPS in Blighttown (Dark Souls) ever since. So after all, it became clear that changing CPU was indeed a better investment than changing GPU. Well, at least in my case.
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| Posted: Sat, 27th Oct 2012 08:32 Post subject: |
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@racoon: a cpu cooler for 100-200$? Isnt that a bit much, and more so if you are not going to OC much.
"Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-imposed nonage. Nonage is the inability to use one's own understanding without another's guidance. This nonage is self-imposed if its cause lies not in lack of understanding but in indecision and lack of courage to use one's own mind without another's guidance. Dare to know! (Sapere aude.) "Have the courage to use your own understanding," is therefore the motto of the enlightenment."
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| Posted: Sat, 27th Oct 2012 18:45 Post subject: |
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I got the zalman 9700, had it FOREVER..since my 9450, its now on my 2500k..and I love it.
keeps me around 30ish idle, 55ish full load.
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| Posted: Sun, 28th Oct 2012 00:17 Post subject: |
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Both the Mugen 3 and the Arctic i30 are excellent.
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| Posted: Sun, 28th Oct 2012 00:35 Post subject: |
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ok, I will get fractal define core 3000.
As for gpu, I will order 7950 gigabyte on monday.... Still afraid of ati.... I am soooo used to nvidia control panel. And last experience like 6 years ago, I had with ati was terrible.
7950 clearly beats 660ti so I want to get amd... hope it wont be "better power crippled by drivers" and hope I will be able to turn anisotroping, aa etc in most games with no problem lik on nvidia
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| Posted: Sun, 28th Oct 2012 00:41 Post subject: |
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| KillerCrocker wrote: | ok, I will get fractal define core 3000.
As for gpu, I will order 7950 gigabyte on monday.... Still afraid of ati.... I am soooo used to nvidia control panel. And last experience like 6 years ago, I had with ati was terrible.
7950 clearly beats 660ti so I want to get amd... hope it wont be "better power crippled by drivers" and hope I will be able to turn anisotroping, aa etc in most games with no problem lik on nvidia |
Should be fine, my last 2..a 5850 and this new 7870 I got work great.
other than the learning curve of the new GUI of the settings and where they are aer compared to nvidia panel..they work wonderfully.
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| Posted: Sun, 28th Oct 2012 01:15 Post subject: |
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I think I have a problem with my SSD, or I have no clue how the benchmarks work. I tried with ATTO, which is used by the manufacturers to get their numbers I believe. Nothing wrong there, I get the usual ~ 500MB/s write/read speeds. How can AS-SSD however give such write speeds? Is this abnormal or is it BS advertising by the SSD manufacturers?
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| sausje wrote: | | sausje wrote: | | Mugen 2 > Mugen 3, much more quiet and cooler. |
For you mister_s:
| Spoiler: | Tijd om de balans op te maken: hoe presteert de Mugen 3 ten opzichte van de Mugen 2? De koelprestaties zijn zoals beschreven vrijwel identiek, de prijs ook, de geluidsproductie helaas niet. Die is in elk scenario beduidend hoger dan wat de voorganger produceerde. Op low-speed valt het nog wel mee, maar op high-speed is de Mugen 3 wat ons betreft té luidruchtig. We staan er niet van te kijken: als Scythe het koeloppervlak verkleint, moet dat nu eenmaal gecompenseerd worden met een krachtigere en dus wat luidruchtigere ventilator.
Wat ons betreft is de combinatie van prijs, prestatie en geluidsproductie van de Mugen 3 hierdoor wel minder interessant dan die van de Mugen 2. Daarentegen loop je met de Mugen 3 veel minder snel tegen een ruimteprobleem aan in combinatie met bepaalde geheugensets.
De Mugen 3 is wat ons betreft echter geen waardige opvolger van de Mugen 2. Wij beschouwen het primair als een zogenaamde cost-down versie: er is minder materiaal gebruikt, dus de koeler is simpelweg goedkoper om te produceren. De keuze hiervoor is zoals geschreven te verklaren: de Mugen 2 is vrijwel continu even duur gebleven, terwijl de grondstofprijzen wel flink gestegen zijn. Financieel gezien is het voor Scythe dus minder aantrekkelijk geworden een koeler met zoveel grondstoffen voor rond de 39 euro weg te zetten.
De importeur van Scythe liet ons desgevraagd weten dat de Mugen 2 en Mugen 3 geruime tijd naast elkaar blijven bestaan. De keuze voor versie 2 ligt wat ons betreft voor de hand. Misschien is het wel een goed idee om toch nog maar snel een Mugen 2 te kopen; de kans bestaat natuurlijk altijd dat de Japanners (moeten) besluiten om de productie van versie 2 te staken. |
from hardware.info |
I haven't tested my old Mugen 2 with an 3570K, but the i30 and Mugen 3 I did test. The i30 especially is a mere whisper at 4.4Ghz under full load.
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| Posted: Sun, 28th Oct 2012 18:33 Post subject: |
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| couleur wrote: | | Well, if you need recommendations, I am very satisfied with my Thermalright Macho. Its quite the price/performance beast and has a very very silent 14mm fan in the package aswell! |
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It's effin' HUGE!!!  Of course, I'm not saying it's a bad thing. I simply don't need anything that big. Especially when:
1) My Antec Gamer Six Hundred case provides rather good air flow with its two 120mm fans (front and rear) and one really big 200mm fan on top, right above the CPU cooler.
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2) I need a cooler that won't block any of the RAM slots. All 4 must be available (e.g. Thermaltake Contac is a no-go). As I said earlier, I went totally cheap ass with RAM and bought only 2x2 GB, so now I need space for additional two sticks. (Come to think of it, I could have bought single 4GB stick. On the other hand, it could cause some troubles if paired with incompatible one for dual-channel in the future.)
| DXWarlock wrote: | I got the zalman 9700, had it FOREVER..since my 9450, its now on my 2500k..and I love it.
keeps me around 30ish idle, 55ish full load. |
I had that one too. CNPS 9700LED. Was doing a great job of cooling my E4400 and Q9400. Unfortunately I didn't get the appropriate mounting kits for socket 1155 and I can't utilize it with my current setup. Fuck! 
| Mister_s wrote: | | Both the Mugen 3 and the Arctic i30 are excellent. |
How big is that Arcric i30? I mean, does it block RAM slots? (Probably not, but just want to make sure.  )
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| Posted: Sun, 28th Oct 2012 18:36 Post subject: |
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Get NH-U12P SE2, you wont regret it.
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| Posted: Tue, 30th Oct 2012 14:48 Post subject: |
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shame. I want a case with 3 decent fans. There is no point getting a case with included fans and dusting them
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I will definitely pick something decent soon enough when I finally have some cash to spend.
