Dark Messiah of Might and Magic
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pikachupi




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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Jul 2012 18:25    Post subject:
lolozaur wrote:
http://steamcommunity.com/id/Tr0llHunter/screenshots/?tab=public&showdate=1&filter=app_2100 some screens here too

i remember finishing this in 2006 i think, played now abit but reached that spiders area and quit Sad, developed some miniphobia for spiders these past years Sad


is that so? then i have a little surprise for ya,but don't look if you hate spiders Twisted Evil

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actualy,i am no fun of bugs neither and sometimes in games spiders can realy gives you the crip. i remember when i was kid,i played wonder boy or was it wonder girl...something from the c-64 days and one of the bosses was realy realistic spider and first time i saw it, i almost got heart atack Sad but it was realy realistic spider for it's time:)
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gromar




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PostPosted: Sat, 14th Jul 2012 00:57    Post subject:
gottta buy it Very Happy
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DarkRohirrim




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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Jul 2012 17:37    Post subject:
Interinactive wrote:
Skyrim needs combat like this.

Fucking finally. I'm glad I'm not the only one that thinks that. And it doesn't only need the combat from DM. I always thought Bethesda needs to take a proper look at DM if they want to do combat (actually, first person in general) well for once. DM has the perfect first person feel/movement. Pretty much no game comes close to it in that respect. Its father, Arx Fatalis and Mirror's Edge are the only ones that come to my mind and are close to it. After playing so much Dark Messiah I can only consider Bethesda's games shit. I feel like a ghost in their games. There's no feel at all. The movement is shit and the combat is shit. I would be happy with the combat fixed, but I would really love to see Skyrim have DM's first person feel. First of all, Skyrim's combat needs DM's way of attacking: one attack in each direction + one for simple clicking. Also, enemies need to react to each of this attacks accordingly. It also needs the kick (along with giving the character a full body which you can actually see and which actually makes the game feel that well in first person). Arrows need to have the kind of impact they have in DM. Stealth needs to be made like in DM. There are so many things...

Also, I know I'm late (had a problem with the internet these last couple of days), but here are some screens:

http://www.nfohump.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1914698#1914698

And as I said there, yes, the game has aged really well. As Interinactive said, the game is way ahead of its time... both in terms of graphics and gameplay.

Here's a mod for Oblivion which tries to do what I want from Bethesda's games: http://oblivion.nexusmods.com/mods/20891/


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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Jul 2012 17:48    Post subject:
It's not just the fact that Skyrim feels too floaty compared to DM, it's that Gamebryo feels too floaty compared to Source in general. Souce games have always given me that "chunky" feel, games like DM and Zeno Clash both have that amazing melee combat feel.
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PostPosted: Mon, 16th Jul 2012 19:11    Post subject: I have left.
I have left.
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DarkRohirrim




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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Jul 2012 11:24    Post subject:


One of the coolest cinematics ever!
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Jul 2012 12:29    Post subject:
It was so friggin' awesome having that power too Very Happy
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DarkRohirrim




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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Jul 2012 12:46    Post subject:
I never really used it. It's nice that you have the choice though. And by choice I don't mean of only using it or not. It's awesome how you actually get to choose if you want that out of you or not. You can make Sareth such a different character this way. On one hand you can make him a character that wants to fight like a human if he has too, he wants to save the people he can and all that, he wants to be a human, thus throwing the demon side out of him when you get the chance. On the other hand, you can make him a true demon bastard, by letting people die, by embracing your demon form and all that. The game doesn't have much in terms of choice, but it has some and a lot of freedom and that feels really good. I also love the level design. I actually managed to skip a part of the game by climbing with the rope bow through some really weird areas.


Edit: Look what I found:



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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Jul 2012 13:08    Post subject:
It's just a shame that this was a one-shot thing, it would have been amazing to have more from the Dark Messiah...or hell, even just more FP combat in the Might & Magic world. Seems like the original Might & Magic series died Sad
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PostPosted: Sun, 19th Aug 2012 12:17    Post subject:
This game recently appeared in my list on Steam. Had the MP activated via a cd-key, but the SP simply popped not a long time ago.

I really like the game. But I have the FPS loss/memory leak problem. Looked around the internets and no tip was useful for me.

Problem in details: framerate starts to drop while playing and goes into single digits, no matter the level or the action my character performs, no matter how many reloads or settings I change.

Any of you have some input on this matter?

Thx.


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pakko




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PostPosted: Sun, 19th Aug 2012 12:36    Post subject:
i think the problem appears in win7 only =/
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PostPosted: Sun, 19th Aug 2012 13:32    Post subject:
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blackeyedboy




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PostPosted: Sun, 19th Aug 2012 15:26    Post subject:
pakko wrote:
i think the problem appears in win7 only =/


Apparently. I am on Win7 x64.

No idea how to fix it. Tried a ton of solutions but with no go. But man... the first person implementation is this game is absolutely splendid. It's such a shame Bethesda hasn't learned anything from Arkane in this regard. Skyrim is such 10 steps back...


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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Sun, 19th Aug 2012 16:21    Post subject:
I've heard about that framerate issue too, it does seem to either happen to people or it doesn't. It's so sporadic. On my old rig I used to have some performance issues in certain places, framerate would drop noticeably but never to such extremes as single digits, and absolutely nothing on my current machine.

Sorry mate, I don't have a solution Sad
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blackeyedboy




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PostPosted: Sun, 19th Aug 2012 17:16    Post subject:
Np.

Uninstalled anyway. Seems it's a known issue with an unknown solution.


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PostPosted: Sun, 19th Aug 2012 17:17    Post subject:
this game any good?

got a copy lying around for steam gifts
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Sun, 19th Aug 2012 17:21    Post subject:
@blackeyedboy

I really wish I could help you mate Sad The only thing I can suggest is, due to it being Source engine, you could try some HL2 optimising tips? Pretty much all the same commands.

@boner

It's excellent and well worth playing OR gifting Smile
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PostPosted: Wed, 17th Oct 2012 12:42    Post subject:
Wrong topic, as someone pointed out...


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Thorwulf




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PostPosted: Wed, 17th Oct 2012 12:49    Post subject:
Wrong topic
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dannofdawn




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PostPosted: Fri, 21st Oct 2016 23:01    Post subject:
Dark Messiah is why I can't enjoy Dishonored without hating the fact that it wasn't Dark Messiah 2, but a stealth game.

Too bad Arkane seem to be going away from that with every new game Sad
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Mister_s




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PostPosted: Fri, 21st Oct 2016 23:35    Post subject:
One of the most fun games I have ever played. Why no sequel Sad
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ixigia
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PostPosted: Sat, 22nd Oct 2016 01:02    Post subject:
I still remember the game being bashed by the silly journos back in the day, for being shallow, too linear and some even went as far as saying that the combat was boring. It's unclear whether heavy drugs were involved, or simply no bribing occurred in this case, but either way they were so damn wrong it's unbelievable.

Dark Messiah was perhaps too ahead of its times, with all the sandbox-y environmental interactions, traps created on the fly with proper physics, the majestic rope bow, various elemental approaches with fire and ice and enemies properly reacting to them, tons of unique weapons, the bloody kick, stamina bar system for parrying and impaling people.
It's sad when we think about it, 10 years of technological "advancements" have passed, and instead of spending them to evolve this formula, we're stuck to awesome buttons Okay



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Stormwolf




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PostPosted: Sat, 22nd Oct 2016 01:04    Post subject:
Mister_s wrote:
One of the most fun games I have ever played. Why no sequel Sad


Because often times the best games are the least popular, funnily enough.
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PostPosted: Sat, 22nd Oct 2016 01:06    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Sat, 22nd Oct 2016 03:30    Post subject:
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Bob Barnsen




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PostPosted: Sat, 22nd Oct 2016 09:35    Post subject:
Very much enjoyed the game back then too.

It's a shame that there are still not really more singleplayer games with the similar visceral melee combat. Sad
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tet666




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PostPosted: Sat, 22nd Oct 2016 10:25    Post subject:
AmpegV4 wrote:
Ya last really quality game from this studio, now they just make generic shooters Sad


Yeah right cause the Dishonored games and the new Prey are generic shooters....
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PostPosted: Sat, 22nd Oct 2016 11:14    Post subject:
@tet666

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tet666




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PostPosted: Sat, 22nd Oct 2016 12:37    Post subject:
h0rnyfavn wrote:
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What? Is there something i'm missing?
They are not generic shooters CoD is a generic shooter, even Doom qualifies as one but Dishonored where you not shoot anything and can play the whole game without killing (yourself) is definitely not a shooter or Thief would be a shooter as well they merely share the same perspective: first person but that doesn't make them a shooter, get your damn genres right bloody idiots....
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