[PS4] Death Stranding
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Jayinem
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PostPosted: Sat, 19th Oct 2019 07:38    Post subject:
Considering the state of Konami today with games like Contra Rogue Corps and Metal Gear Survive, no one would take that horseshit over Kojima's games.

I personally loved Phantom Pain and I don't get the hate.
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PostPosted: Sat, 19th Oct 2019 17:01    Post subject:
You probably never really liked that much MGS1/2/3 (4) in the first place then. And you are probably a fan of Far Cry / Assassins Creed Origins/Odyssey with skill trees and open world stuff.

I respect that, good for you, seems most games are aiming towards this.


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PostPosted: Sat, 19th Oct 2019 17:49    Post subject:
cyclonefr wrote:
You probably never really liked that much MGS1/2/3 (4) in the first place then. And you are probably a fan of Far Cry / Assassins Creed Origins/Odyssey with skill trees and open world stuff.

I respect that, good for you, seems most games are aiming towards this.


Sorry but wrong, MGS is my favorite series of all time I have beaten every one including Metal Gear 1 and 2 on MSX. You can like more than one type of game I enjoy all the main series Metal Gears. Metal Gear Solid 1 and 3 are amongst my favorite games of all time and if I had to choose I would choose those over Phantom Pain, but I still loved it.

But no I don't hate Assassin's Creed or Far Cry either. Phantom Pain blows those games away though to me.

I'm just saying there's no contest between what Konami is doing now and what Kojima did with Phantom Pain. Konami is making some of the worst games ever.

This is what reviewers thought comparing Konami's newest games to Phantom Pain.










Your personal hate for Phantom Pain doesn't make it a bad game, it reviewed well and is generally liked. Meanwhile Konami can't do anything right since Kojima left. Kojima was keeping them relevant for years by himself now that he's gone they're a terrible company. It's a shame we won't get his Silent Hill game thanks to Konami.
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PostPosted: Sat, 19th Oct 2019 22:57    Post subject:
Never said Konami was doing good games now that Kojima left. And yes like I mentioned, MGS5 was praised, which I will never understand why because to me this game is nothing like MGS1234.

Everything they added, every mecnhanics to me is a step down sadly. But, I perfectly realize that i'm an exception and most people loved it.

I also think the game was overrated as fuck because of being a MGS game and a Kojima game. Replace Snake with a random character, and replace MGS title with another name (and replace KOJIMA's name by Joaquim ) and you will get a 70% game.

The best one is definitely MGS3. MGS4 was a step down but still a similar game and had some epic moments I'll always remember (Final battle with health bar/music changing, back to Shadow Moses level, the "crawling" moment...).

Sadly I have to admit I can't say anything about MGS5 and epic moments since I got bored after 2h of gameplay (and I even bought it). But can you tell me if MGS5 has any similar epic moment ?


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PostPosted: Sat, 19th Oct 2019 23:20    Post subject:
Yes there are plenty of epic moments, but that's my opinion of course. I don't think you can do that game justice by playing 2 hours. I 100%'d the game it took me 255 hours (one of my proudest accomplishments as a gamer because I rarely beat games that are 100 hours+) But I guess if you just couldn't stand it, I understand not continuing. I will admit it's probably not for everybody, I think even Kojima said something along those lines.

The story was incomplete due to Konami forcing Kojima to put it out before he intended to, but what was there was still better than a lot of games, although not really better than previous Metal Gear Solids. But I mean Zelda gets praised over and over, but pretty much just tells the same story over and over. Not that I'm anti-Zelda, but the story is not it's strong point. Like Zelda, Phantom Pain's strong point was it's gameplay.

Like you said before most games have gone open world it's just the way games have generally gone, and it probably won't change.

Anyway I have Death Stranding pre-ordered, but I'm a little nervous about it. I admit it's probably only because of Kojima's name that I have it pre-ordered because carrying boxes doesn't sound like fun, but I'm willing to give it a chance and if I hate it I can always sell it.
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PostPosted: Sat, 19th Oct 2019 23:39    Post subject:
They did to MGS what they did to Zelda, borified it. As for this game, it looks style over substance.
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PostPosted: Sun, 20th Oct 2019 00:05    Post subject:
Seems like some of you hate video games lol.
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PostPosted: Sun, 20th Oct 2019 00:43    Post subject:
Can't say Zelda BOTW had lots of action but it was definitely less boring than MGS5 and much more enjoyable. Also previous Zelda games were IMO more boring than BOTW (which at least had voice acting, a story, and cutscenes).

IMO BOTW was a good compromise between boredom and gameplay, which is why I loved it compared to previous Zelda which were a borefest after a while.

That being said, I don't like spending more than 15 h on a video game, never did. I like to complete the story and that's about it, which is what i did with zelda botw (prolly took me 20 h though).


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PostPosted: Sun, 20th Oct 2019 01:17    Post subject:
Jayinem wrote:
Seems like some of you hate video games lol.


epic conclusion you had there lol wut lol wut
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PostPosted: Sun, 20th Oct 2019 10:24    Post subject:
Screw it, I've bought it. If it is boring, I will sell account. I need something new to hook me in, I haven't had that kind of game since Spider-Man last year. Not even RDR 2.
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PostPosted: Sun, 20th Oct 2019 10:41    Post subject:
Have you played Days Gone.

It was a bit of a sleeper for me. Just finished the game and I can honestly say I enjoyed it more than RDR2

I don’t very often put much time into playing games, but this one had me playing every night.


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PostPosted: Sun, 20th Oct 2019 10:52    Post subject:
I have it, but it also didn't hook me in. I might give it another try or also sell it Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun, 20th Oct 2019 12:26    Post subject:
I nearly gave up with the game in the beginning. But after a few hours in, it got me hooked Smile

It has its issues and shortcomings but a good solid game


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PostPosted: Mon, 21st Oct 2019 23:08    Post subject:
I feel like you gotta be really high on something to fully enjoy this Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Oct 2019 14:27    Post subject:
Also, if you befriend him (as he is one of the preppers) you get the sea otter costume:

https://twitter.com/HIDEO_KOJIMA_EN/status/1187290189544050688

Kinda cute Very Happy The old days with the croc hat in MGS3 Very Happy

EDIT: I guess we can expect others who were visiting KojiPro studios to appear (like Keanu).


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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Oct 2019 15:36    Post subject:
It's all good fun but tbh it's starting to feel a little ridiculous, as in "how many celebrities I have some kind of connection with can I stuff in my game ?".
If it's done with a clear purpose and in a clever way, I have no issue with it, and tbh I don't give a damn that he does it. However, this feels quite ridiculous to me, kinda like Kojima wants to be part of some kind of celebrity club or something. It's cute and everything, but feels off.

I don't doubt this opinion will be unpopular Razz


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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Oct 2019 19:53    Post subject:
From what i understand the Japanese have this "oh my, it's american" thing going on.

After Konami Kojima had problems setting up shop. He said that through connections (hence the idea of Death Stranding) he came out of the hole. Working in a japanese corp is, reportedly, like being married to one. Therefore when you are gone, no one wants anything to do with you. That is, unless someone ignores the whole "marriage" crap. Because some bank manager liked Kojima he made it possible for him to lease an office and set up shop.

What i'm saying is all the people he worked with since were connected through somebody. Reeeeeeedus said that Del Toro called him and told him that he would get a phone call. And he wants him to say yes to whatever the mysterious caller says. And he did.
I wonder if Sony (because KojiPro isn't really a big moneymaker for now) laid out tons of cash for all these cameos and stars. It is possible that they (the cast) actually believe Kojima to be a visionairy and not just saying that. And because of that money is not an issue.

Whatever the case, i don't believe Kojima to be a starfucker (except for sexy time with Mads and Norman obviously Very Happy ). I think it's the magic of "they are american stars".

Obviously, Mads is Danish but they same rule applies - Kojima is close friends with the director Nicolas Winding Refn who, in turn, worked many many times with Mads. So again - making friends through connections.

As for Lindsay Wagner - Kojima had a crush on her since he saw her as Bionic Woman and, again, met her through somebody because he asked to meet her.

I'm inclined that the god emperor Kojima-san is in a zen state where he avoided poverty and now wants to be friends with everybody Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Oct 2019 20:15    Post subject:
TheZor wrote:
It's all good fun but tbh it's starting to feel a little ridiculous, as in "how many celebrities I have some kind of connection with can I stuff in my game ?".


As if the Japanese has anything that even closely resembles taste? Wink He'd put Mario in there too, if he could, or perhaps Shrek or Batman.
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PostPosted: Mon, 28th Oct 2019 13:15    Post subject:
https://twitter.com/KojiPro2015_EN/status/1188787623965401088

PC confirmed early summer of 2020 Smile


Yeah, well, that's just, like, your opinion, man. Reaction
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PostPosted: Fri, 1st Nov 2019 18:40    Post subject:
A german review. Conclusion: Awesome game for the experienced gamer.


https://www.golem.de/news/death-stranding-im-test-paketbote-trifft-postapokalypse-1911-144740.html
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PostPosted: Fri, 1st Nov 2019 19:05    Post subject:
Those reviews got me hyped yo Very Happy



https://www.gaming-age.com/2019/11/death-stranding-review-for-ps4/

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I was hooked from the first time I saw the title screen until the credits rolled 72 hours later. Death Stranding is immensely satisfying, and everything I could have hoped for and more from Kojima Productions.


72 hours?


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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd Nov 2019 01:06    Post subject:
Still skeptical about this game, i'll wait for the headshot review to decide myself.








J/K headshot will love it and say it's a masterpiece and a 11/10 game, anyone else to take the risk ? Cool Face


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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd Nov 2019 12:29    Post subject:
Haha game certainly is lengthy.

https://www.kotaku.co.uk/2019/11/01/death-stranding-the-kotaku-review

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Completed the story in about 85 hours. I've played over a hundred total at this point.


I'm sure I will like this. Games that get mixed opinions or dislike I usually like lol.
Got me 2 days off work next week, 4 day weekend and hopefully SimplyGames ship on Wednesday Very Happy

Spoilers: I will watch after playing the game.



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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd Nov 2019 14:43    Post subject:
Didn't you prehurrdurr? Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd Nov 2019 14:57    Post subject:
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Didn't you prehurrdurr? Laughing


Sure did. Prehurrdurred last month Very Happy


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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd Nov 2019 14:59    Post subject:
So why haven't you received it yet?

Ah Nov 8 Sorry
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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd Nov 2019 15:01    Post subject:
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So why haven't you received it yet?

Ah Nov 8 Sorry


lol I am hoping for Nov 7 ...

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