Call me video game racing snob..
Driving like a boss: Then proceeds to drive in 3rd person, having a gated shifter and leaves car in automatic mode, and 'driving like a boss' is just drifting a car with a tune setup for drifting.
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G29 and g27 are great I think for the price.. I have the g27 and son has a g29.
Now they won't stand up to the $600+ wheels for force feedback strength, but it can pull the wheel out of my hand at times still.
Wheel feels solid and comfortable and pedals are pretty decent for what you pay. They are not pro racing sim pedals but you are not paying $500 just for them either. They are nice middle ground between the cheap all plastic ones many lower end wheels have, and the all aluminum/steel 'pro' ones.
One of the main things I like is the noise, or lack of it. My g27 is dead quiet, none of that loud gear whirr that sounds like a cheesy movie robot walking as its moves, since it uses two motors and a belt I cannot hear much of anything when I turn it.
-We don't control what happens to us in life, but we control how we respond to what happens in life.
-Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. -G. Michael Hopf
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I'm not looking for a pro setup, just something to work with. I also noticed the T150 requires a "pro" version to get better pedals plus an extra $200 for a shifter while the G29 shifter is only like 60 bucks.
I think I may go the Logitech route. Would be nice to find one on sale. The closest thing I'm finding is $220.
I like it, only gripe/complaint I could give g27/g29 is since its dual motor belt drive it has a spot top dead center it makes some rumbling noise on the wheel on heavy force feedback.
Since there has to be a tiny bit of 'play' so the motors dont fight each other trying to find center. You can try to fix it if you WANT, but over tweaking it trying to fix it gives the 'death wobble': Where the wheel top center oscillates a tiny bit back and forth as each motor goes "Nooo..HERE is where I want center to be".
It's only like 1/2 a degree or so, It's not enough to notice by feel at all. But force feedback vibration is louder there.
Best example I can find for a good representation of what it sound like in person, this sounds about like what his does. If you pay attention to when he is going straight you can hear the 'thunk thunk thunk' of force feedback in the 0 degree range.
Around :30-:34 and 1:09-1:15 ish you can hear it when force feedback is doing 'road feel'. But otherwise its a dead quiet wheel compared to other $200ish wheels. Some sound like an old school robot arm servo when they turn.
Take all this with a grain of salt. His is 5-6 years old. So not sure if newer revisions of the same model are better/worse/same as this. I am assuming its roughly the same still.
-We don't control what happens to us in life, but we control how we respond to what happens in life.
-Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. -G. Michael Hopf
Disclaimer: Post made by me are of my own creation. A delusional mind relayed in text form.
I like it, only gripe/complaint I could give g27/g29 is since its dual motor belt drive it has a spot top dead center it makes some rumbling noise on the wheel on heavy force feedback.
Since there has to be a tiny bit of 'play' so the motors dont fight each other trying to find center. You can try to fix it if you WANT, but over tweaking it trying to fix it gives the 'death wobble': Where the wheel top center oscillates a tiny bit back and forth as each motor goes "Nooo..HERE is where I want center to be".
It's only like 1/2 a degree or so, It's not enough to notice by feel at all. But force feedback vibration is louder there.
Best example I can find for a good representation of what it sound like in person, this sounds about like what his does. If you pay attention to when he is going straight you can hear the 'thunk thunk thunk' of force feedback in the 0 degree range.
Around :30-:34 and 1:09-1:15 ish you can hear it when force feedback is doing 'road feel'. But otherwise its a dead quiet wheel compared to other $200ish wheels. Some sound like an old school robot arm servo when they turn.
Take all this with a grain of salt. His is 5-6 years old. So not sure if newer revisions of the same model are better/worse/same as this. I am assuming its roughly the same still.
Noise doesn't matter when gaming imho. The wheel does have a rattle though but this is only an issue with off road racing, while racing on track it's a smooth ride. Also be aware that tuning down force feedback is the way to go for almost any game, this also fixes sound/rattling. Youtube the G29 settings for your prefered game and you'll be fine. G29 is a solid durable wheel with a good price/quality ratio. Also force feedback is poor in Forza 5. Any wheel will do, only buy a G29 when you want to do sim racing. And for something forzaish you can't go wrong with dirt 2.0.
Got plenty of racing games, include this, all the forzas, dirt series, grid series, grand turismo sport, f1 series. So I think it's time to ditch the gamepad and get a proper wheel lol
MY $50 Logitech Momo Racing is perfect for this game. It sure sucks in assetto corsa but in forza ? Perfect
This.
Tried Forza 5 with my G29 and it sucks. With a controller it's just plug and play but with a wheel i'm all over the place and I don't feel like tweaking settings to get it right. Also I have a playstation G29 and off course microsoft is so kind to name all the buttons 1-16+ so I have no clue what button to press. This game is not designed for a decent sim wheel.
I'm the opposite @friketje
I suck at ANY game using a controller especially racing games.
I think it's from the last console I had was a SNES 25+ years ago and played a LOT of fzero on it. So it's ingrained into me to steer on them with: Turn a wide turn tap direction, turn hard hold direction. Analog thumbsticks are cumbersome in my hands.
I do infinitely better in racing games on PC if I just try using the keyboard, vs controller, I am so bad at controllers
You want to see what it looks like to play a FPS shooter against a 8 year old, 1/2 blind kid that seems like he is distracted and doesn't know how to play? Force me to fight you in one with a controller...LOL
I am using the G27 in forza and it feels pretty good. I had to tweak a few options under 'advanced controls' to get it feeling natural as I expect it to feel and act similar to the way it does in racing sims. Only took me about a minute of tweaking.
I think it's pretty good for me with the wheel and all the assists turned off and steering set to 'simulation' (well as simlike as forza will get anyway).
I also use keyboard/mouse for anything not driving related (menus and such). Only thing I use wheel buttons for is horn, handbrake, and rewind. And paddle shifters for gears.
-We don't control what happens to us in life, but we control how we respond to what happens in life.
-Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. -G. Michael Hopf
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I'm taking a break from this one. Whenever I start the game I'm either alone or there are ~2-4 other players online. No traffic whatsoever when freeroaming. Numerous festival list bugs, accolade quest bugs etc. that makes it impossible to complete them.
It feels like I'm driving around in a post-apocalyptic world where every human in the game suddenly disappeared and I'm nearly alone. From what I've read it's plagued by server issues. If they don't fix them soon they risk the fate of having empty servers even if they fix their issues. :/
This game needs plenty of work. It's a pity. It was pushed out too soon, most likely by MS to coincide with the xmas period when tons of consoles will be sold as presents. Playground is still working on Fable 3 which probably takes higher priority in the studio since the Fable franchise attracts a bigger player base, leaving fewer resources/time to work on Horizon 5 and implement new features (FH5 is basically FH4 with a new Mexico map and redesigned/higher polygon count cars) and use the game engine that's used for the upcoming Forza Motorsport which is what the rumours were. Most people thought FH5 would arrive in 2022 at the earliest after Fable 3 had shipped with a smaller team working on building the basic structure of the next iteration of FH so the full team could focus on developing FH5.
I'll leave it installed for now so I can pop in whenever I feel like a couple of online multiplayer races just to sate my need for speed but I won't bother completing seasonals or doing all the events, accolades etc. :/
@W123 No not at all. Can play with a keyboard pretty damn well if you want. Most people I think use a controller.
The controls difficulty and feel are sort of on par with GTA5 to me. maybe not same same but ballpark enough hopefully you get the idea: If you can drive in that with a keyboard or controller, you will be fine in this game.
I just use a wheel because I have one. If I am racing, even as arcady as this is I prefer fighting the force feedback and flinging the wheel around like a madman on corners
For example I even play Wreckfest with the wheel. its honestly like 3x harder to do but SOO much fun for me that way.
-We don't control what happens to us in life, but we control how we respond to what happens in life.
-Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. -G. Michael Hopf
Disclaimer: Post made by me are of my own creation. A delusional mind relayed in text form.
Yeah, I'd say using a wheel for this, even with assists "off", is much harder. Flicking that stick or even left right keys is a lot easier, as that is what the game is optimized for.
@LeoNatan
I agree, my friend that talked me into playing it (first forza I ever played) kicks my ass in races. IN any other racing game he is pretty meh at best.
But he is using controller while I am full wheel, no assists, manual with clutch shifting.
Not saying you cannot win with a wheel. You just need to be both pretty good at the wheel, and good at arcady racing to do so. I slow down too much for corners and such ingrained by sim racing, that if I try to do what I should really be doing for this style racing game physics, I will end up spun out or in a wall.
-We don't control what happens to us in life, but we control how we respond to what happens in life.
-Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. -G. Michael Hopf
Disclaimer: Post made by me are of my own creation. A delusional mind relayed in text form.
It's probably objectively much harder with a wheel, because of the amount of movement necessary. Remember that in these games, you tackle turns and corners at really unrealistic speeds while remaining in control of the vehicle. The games are really optimized for very quick and sudden wheel turns, which cannot really be accomplished at the racing wheel level. Even if you have superhuman hand speed, I assume wheel report rate is still slower than that of the small stick potentiometer.
It becomes much worse if you try to actually obey physics and slow down. Even with low level AI, you see that no car is slowing down for even 90 degree turns.
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