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Mister_s




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PostPosted: Sun, 8th Nov 2020 19:33    Post subject:
KillerCrocker wrote:
Fractal don't have a case better than p600s. All of their cases have way worse gpu temps. Even meshify.
I had Fractals, now have Phanteks and it's the same to build in

Total BS. The cases get raving reviews and the Meshify is great with airflow. I have seven fans in total in the case (3x case, 2x GPU, 2x CPU) and only the 2 CPU fans are spinning at a very low rpm when I'm not gaming. I never had such a silent PC, that's mainly due to no actual need for fans except under gaming load. This is with a hothead 3700X.
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PostPosted: Sun, 8th Nov 2020 20:26    Post subject:
Yes, that's how I run too. I have Meshify 2, and I have it set up to be basically 0% fan speed for case fans unless system is at some load, and CPU is very silent anyway (all Noctua fans). GPU also doesn't spin unless there is some load. The NAS with the mechanical drives is practically much more noisy, even at high PC load (and that's with a HOTHEAD 3960X Laughing ).
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PostPosted: Sun, 8th Nov 2020 22:04    Post subject:
Mister_s wrote:
KillerCrocker wrote:
Fractal don't have a case better than p600s. All of their cases have way worse gpu temps. Even meshify.
I had Fractals, now have Phanteks and it's the same to build in

Total BS. The cases get raving reviews and the Meshify is great with airflow. I have seven fans in total in the case (3x case, 2x GPU, 2x CPU) and only the 2 CPU fans are spinning at a very low rpm when I'm not gaming. I never had such a silent PC, that's mainly due to no actual need for fans except under gaming load. This is with a hothead 3700X.

That's not bullshit. I had like 7-10c lower temps on gpu in p600s compared to fractal.
The fractal just has less airflow. Even meshify cases have very restrictive filters and less room for gpu to breathe. Even huge meshify S2 has quite lower temps compared to p600s.


And meshify S2 is the most airflow fractal case


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PostPosted: Sun, 8th Nov 2020 22:09    Post subject:
So in the end: doesn't matter that much. Got it. Troll Dad


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KillerCrocker




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PostPosted: Sun, 8th Nov 2020 23:00    Post subject:
Morphineus wrote:
So in the end: doesn't matter that much. Got it. Troll Dad

Nah. I would still focus on looks. most of these cases are good anyway. P600s is the best of all but I would still choose mainly based on looks.
The one mistake I mede was going black p600s. Should've gone with the grey model


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PostPosted: Sun, 8th Nov 2020 23:08    Post subject:
Oh look, you will die on a hill for a marginal at best "difference", while the filters on Fractal cases are far superior at stopping dust. I prefer not to have to open my case once a month to vacuum clean inside it, like I used to 10 years ago, thanks. The better the filtration system, the better. Much more important than "gpu to breathe" with a few degrees. Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon, 9th Nov 2020 11:53    Post subject:
Meshify C is a good case. Phanteks 300/400/500 are also very good. Haven't seen 600 but probably good too. It looks huge and heavy for my taste.

I liked Era ITX but heard it is not a good airflow case. Went with Lian Li in the end. Very nice and easy to build.


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PostPosted: Mon, 9th Nov 2020 16:59    Post subject:
IamAWESOME wrote:
Meshify C is a good case. Phanteks 300/400/500 are also very good. Haven't seen 600 but probably good too. It looks huge and heavy for my taste.

I liked Era ITX but heard it is not a good airflow case. Went with Lian Li in the end. Very nice and easy to build.

It is extremely huge and weights 14kg... without a pc inside. add 3080, cpu cooler and you get like 17kg pc Laughing


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PostPosted: Mon, 9th Nov 2020 22:33    Post subject:
LeoNatan wrote:
Oh look, you will die on a hill for a marginal at best "difference", while the filters on Fractal cases are far superior at stopping dust. I prefer not to have to open my case once a month to vacuum clean inside it, like I used to 10 years ago, thanks. The better the filtration system, the better. Much more important than "gpu to breathe" with a few degrees. Laughing
Where did you saw/read this? I'm still looking for a case, but this is a trade off that I'd also be interested in. And besides, while it seems like one hell of a case the p600s is still too heavy for my linking (case goes ON TOP of the desk, no discussions! Mad).


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PostPosted: Mon, 9th Nov 2020 22:44    Post subject:
The denser a filter is, the less particles pass (also air). I did see a comparison at the time I was looking, but donโ€™t remember where. I was happy with the previous Define case I had, where it was quite clean after 5 years of use, so went with the Meshify S2 this time.
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PostPosted: Mon, 9th Nov 2020 23:04    Post subject:
tonizito wrote:
LeoNatan wrote:
Oh look, you will die on a hill for a marginal at best "difference", while the filters on Fractal cases are far superior at stopping dust. I prefer not to have to open my case once a month to vacuum clean inside it, like I used to 10 years ago, thanks. The better the filtration system, the better. Much more important than "gpu to breathe" with a few degrees. Laughing
Where did you saw/read this? I'm still looking for a case, but this is a trade off that I'd also be interested in. And besides, while it seems like one hell of a case the p600s is still too heavy for my linking (case goes ON TOP of the desk, no discussions! Mad).

he is right. Fractal uses these thick foam like filters. Very restricting to airflow but also to dust.
P600s uses tiny mesh grating. The outside fabric is just for decoration and does not catch any dust.
I just take off the front every two weeks and vacuum the mesh dust filter. The dust still gets inside to the point that You have to clean the system every 6 months or so.


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PostPosted: Mon, 9th Nov 2020 23:07    Post subject:
Thanks mens.
I clean the filters on my Antec 300 every two weeks and inside (almost disassembling the whole system) once a year and dust is a bit of a problem in this room.

Still undecided on which case to get, but now leaning more towards to the S2


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PostPosted: Mon, 9th Nov 2020 23:14    Post subject:
I had a Define R5, and it had fantastic filters, very easy to clean. In PCs before, I used to go in with the vacuum cleaner once a month to pick up fucking Wild West bay balls from the case, the fans and the GPU. Laughing Never again!
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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Nov 2020 00:08    Post subject:
P500a seems like a more sensible choice for me than a P600s, but I can only find the shitty glass side cover version for sale here Sad


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Remember, even Geralt is using Fractal Design case, you can't go wrong here. Laughing


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PostPosted: Wed, 11th Nov 2020 20:02    Post subject:
This just in



I have the p600, btw Cool Face
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PostPosted: Wed, 11th Nov 2020 20:09    Post subject:
4treyu wrote:
This just in



I have the p600, btw Cool Face
What you mean, "Cool Face"?!
Split between the Fractal S2 and the p600 at the moment.


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PostPosted: Wed, 11th Nov 2020 20:17    Post subject:
Go for fractal if you like how they look, i personally hate how Fractal cases look, especially that horrible Meshify, have built many system at work with Define R5 cases tho (nice stealthy look for workstations). What goes for P600s, its still the best case i have ever owned, never had any issues installing components in it, i have not ever cleaned it inside aswell in the past 1 year (i have my case on table tho).
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PostPosted: Wed, 11th Nov 2020 20:26    Post subject:
The only complaints I saw about the Fractal cases is that they are not "new" or "exciting". As if I give a shit if the latest case looks like the previous. I replace these things every ~4-5 years, so yeah, as long as specs are good, I don't care how "exciting" a fucking case is. Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed, 11th Nov 2020 20:27    Post subject:
You have to agree the HDD solution is horrible. Dangling like sloppy dicks until you fasten in some short screws. Also They kept falling down because i bumped a bit into one when placing multiple. Case is great now that all is working, but that solution right there was the absolute worst i've seen in a pricy case.
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PostPosted: Wed, 11th Nov 2020 20:35    Post subject:
Stormwolf wrote:
You have to agree the HDD solution is horrible. Dangling like sloppy dicks until you fasten in some short screws. Also They kept falling down because i bumped a bit into one when placing multiple. Case is great now that all is working, but that solution right there was the absolute worst i've seen in a pricy case.


Never had problems with the HDD solution, i installed one 10TB drive to the bottom part where PSU is.
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PostPosted: Wed, 11th Nov 2020 20:41    Post subject:
Ahh, i used the ones in the middle. Tried the bottom but it was a nightmare with the PSU. Now i was rushing it as there was something i had to do. Will refine the inside soon.
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PostPosted: Wed, 11th Nov 2020 20:51    Post subject:
I had HDDs in the Define R5, in the cage. There was no issue. In this case, I don't have HDDs anymore (they are in the NAS), so the cage is not installed. The SSDs are fine on the back of the case (behind the motherboard plate). I like this solution.
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PostPosted: Wed, 11th Nov 2020 20:53    Post subject:
I was stressing a bit because of the HDD's so i couldnt figure it out. Either you have to screw the screws through the SSD's or you have to fasten them from behind before you place the motherboard. I couldnt figure it out Laughing SSD is just dangling in the PSU compartment
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PostPosted: Wed, 11th Nov 2020 21:08    Post subject:
You literally just lift the SSD cage up to remove it and put SSD there and clip it back on? Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed, 11th Nov 2020 21:18    Post subject:
My only requirements in the "looks" department is a solid steel side panel Laughing


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PostPosted: Wed, 11th Nov 2020 21:21    Post subject:
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You literally just lift the SSD cage up to remove it and put SSD there and clip it back on? Laughing


Really? As far as i saw you have to screw the SSD holder into the case
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PostPosted: Wed, 11th Nov 2020 21:34    Post subject:
Stormwolf wrote:
I was stressing a bit because of the HDD's so i couldnt figure it out. Either you have to screw the screws through the SSD's or you have to fasten them from behind before you place the motherboard. I couldnt figure it out Laughing SSD is just dangling in the PSU compartment

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PostPosted: Wed, 11th Nov 2020 22:22    Post subject:
It works and thats whats important right now
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PostPosted: Wed, 11th Nov 2020 22:39    Post subject:
Stormwolf wrote:
Breezer_ wrote:
You literally just lift the SSD cage up to remove it and put SSD there and clip it back on? Laughing


Really? As far as i saw you have to screw the SSD holder into the case


Nope, you just lift it up, its held tight with the rubber anti vibration things around the screws.
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