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| Have you moved to Windows 11? |
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27% |
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50% |
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| I'm a Luddite using Windows 7 |
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| I'm a Luddite V2 using Windows 98SE |
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AnarchoS
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My wife has it on a stryx laptop and anytime she starts it something dosen't work, so I have to check the updates, and run those then when I do that I have to restart it so that drivers from asus get installed, and restart again and then it works again. Every time Windows 11 auto-updates it screws the drivers so I have to reinstall them. What a shitty system. That's why I still haven't updated my work comp, it has to work all the time and I don't have time to update it all the time, although it does popup time and again "that I am able to run it, so I should update to it".
I tried it on my wife's comp, and it is horrendous, the interface is so useless, for every thing that I did in Win 10 by doing one click, here you have to open 2 menus to do the same thing, so it's a stupid design. Why do they always have to change the interface to make it harder to use? 
But I do know that at some point I will have to do the move because most of the people at work did the move already. 
A.F.A.
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| Posted: Fri, 12th Aug 2022 12:12 Post subject: |
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Windows will go the way of the dinosaurs and there is no Jurassic Park scenario foreseen in the future...
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DXWarlock
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| Posted: Fri, 12th Aug 2022 21:18 Post subject: |
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@skx7 Windows is too pervasive and ubiquitous to go anytime soon, for a few decade at least and it would be a slooow resisted change..for better or worse.
There is no way with vast majority of office and end user business machines being windows it will be ending soon. Think your forgetting the monumental task and cost of retraining employees to use an new OS based on the average uses computer literacy.
Not to mention the pushback those people will rabble about of having to learn it 'all over again' and the time and productivity lost while they do.
McClatchy tried to do that with the prepress and plateroom teams totaling about 100 or so employees, about a year ago moving from them PC to mac, and that is only about 1/6th of the computer users they have (a large-ish press company I work with) they abandoned it after a week as stuff was late, support desk was overwhelmed with tickets, and user error issues or lack of throughput for amount of work getting done as people stumbled thru the new OS, was impacting the bottom line.
I remember helping them outside my normal responsibilities as a server software vendor, spending a whole day helping FIVE people (took all day teaching 5 people) how to get to, map and shortcut the \\ip\folder share they didnt know how to do on a mac they needed for dropping files into our software.
And you could argue its going away for home use. But same issue: People that are just pc literate enough do to what they need to will use at home, what they use at work. Since thats where they learned most of it and are not learning two OSs for the fun of it at home. They just want to surf the web, check email and watch cat videos.
-We don't control what happens to us in life, but we control how we respond to what happens in life.
-Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. -G. Michael Hopf
Disclaimer: Post made by me are of my own creation. A delusional mind relayed in text form.
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| Posted: Fri, 12th Aug 2022 22:03 Post subject: |
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u forget the fact people are using their phones more then computers now, an phone based OS will wipe the floor with microsoft in due time, oldtimers have no clue how to use their pcs, but on the phone, they get shit done
and end users like u and me are so fed up with losing more and more control of what the fuck my computer is doing and how i can update it that ms gets the finger any chance i get.
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DXWarlock
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| Posted: Fri, 12th Aug 2022 22:11 Post subject: |
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I didnt forget that, I actually was going to mention that as a counter example of how its apples to oranges, but my post was getting long and people hate my long post to start with.
Phones vs PC is not the same. People can switch phones, and phone OS way less painfully than PC because one is personal use, the other is work. People using thier phones more than computers is ONLY a personal time thing.
You can change from android to Apple, You got your own leisure time to do so, and only need the barest whiff of grasp of how to use it to do the things most people do: Browse the web, watch Netflix, send text and download apps..etc. 90% of people barely know that. Ask a random friend how to get to downloads on a phone, most dont know how. They go "you mean the app store? you just click install". Have them download a PDF and try to find and open it...see how it goes.
I cannot think of any work related situation that deals with a computer at any level beyond entry level, that uses thier phone more than a computer to do it. Lots of it cannot be done on a phone, or at least cannot without huge efforts of the IT and company to specifically make it work on a phone.
So you changing what you watch Netflix on in your hand while you poop, in no way reflects the effort, time, cost, and lost productively of retraining entire staff to learn a new OS (that after 2 years they still only know what you showed them) and how to do their job on it in a timely and deadline related work environment where they need to understand more of how to use it than "open app, click watch next episode".
| PickupArtist wrote: | | and end users like u and me are so fed up with losing more and more control of what the fuck my computer is doing and how i can update it that ms gets the finger any chance i get. |
You are forgetting end users like me and you, are not the typical end user. I can attest to, id wager, 9 out of 10 users I have to work with outside of my server duties barely know how to use the OS and dont know what control they are losing to start with. As the IT department locked it down WAY more than the OS does, BECAUSE they are typical end users that dont know much more than what they learned in the 2 years it took them to grasp that bit they do know.
I'm not defending windows as good or getting better. I'm saying the computer environment (especially the work/business side of it) is so saturated with windows its deep rooted.
-We don't control what happens to us in life, but we control how we respond to what happens in life.
-Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. -G. Michael Hopf
Disclaimer: Post made by me are of my own creation. A delusional mind relayed in text form.
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