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PostPosted: Fri, 11th May 2007 15:47    Post subject: Re: Religious people are dumb fucks.
PoorLeno wrote:
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Nuff said Razz

Weak weak weak people


You sir, are a fucktard.


Because ??????

jebus told u ?
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PostPosted: Fri, 11th May 2007 15:49    Post subject:
dingo_d wrote:
Religion is a part of theology, and theology is learning of god; theology tries to explaine great dogmas and beliefes. They try to explain god through different perceptive, and god is an ideal to which all people strive, concious or not. Religion is a way to make people feel safe here on Earth, if you study peaces of modern philosophy you will learn more about religion. And it is not nice to judge someone for their religion, yes it effects person, but not all the people of some religion are fanatics, or crazy lunatics... person is defined by character...


You are correct,

However i think someone following religion by nature will have a weak character for that very purpose.
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PostPosted: Sat, 12th May 2007 00:02    Post subject:
Godlikez* wrote:
Its a sad day when some moron decides to make a topic ridiculing religious people yet provides no insight as to why he thinks this way......

I swear Nforce is becoming more and more like isonews everyday I even have second thoughts coming here nowadays...wish I didnt feel this way Sad


Wouldn't take it personally dude, if someone doesn't back up an opinion it's usually because they can't.
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PostPosted: Sat, 12th May 2007 00:14    Post subject:
Relidiots are the ones who believed in the guy who brings them presents each year and they never grow up, they just have more 'mature' versions of this crap like allah or trinity or holy tree or whatever, later. I dont even know how to eradicate those silly thoughts out of their minds, but I guess making fun of it might work.
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PostPosted: Sat, 12th May 2007 00:19    Post subject:
Is English your first language?

If your mind isn't sophisticated enough to be able to group people into more complex categories than religeous, not religeous, I'm not going to get anything out of arguing with you, and judging by your post you sure as shit won't learn anything.
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PostPosted: Sat, 12th May 2007 00:43    Post subject:
LanceBullet wrote:
Is English your first language?
If your mind isn't sophisticated enough to be able to group people into more complex categories than religeous, not religeous, I'm not going to get anything out of arguing with you, and judging by your post you sure as shit won't learn anything.
And why do you think so? Oh btw I didnt ask you to argue with me and I didnt say I group people just only by their religious beliefs.
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PostPosted: Sat, 12th May 2007 01:50    Post subject: Re: Religious people are dumb fucks.
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PoorLeno wrote:
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Nuff said Razz

Weak weak weak people


You sir, are a fucktard.


Because ??????

jebus told u ?


No, if I were to belive in "jebus", I wouldn't write "fucktard", because that would imply that I commit (eh, sorta) a sin. You are just a very very stupid person. I hope you never procreate. That would make the world a much nicer place to live in.


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PostPosted: Sat, 12th May 2007 02:56    Post subject:
LanceBullet wrote:
Is English your first language?

If your mind isn't sophisticated enough to be able to group people into more complex categories than religeous, not religeous, I'm not going to get anything out of arguing with you, and judging by your post you sure as shit won't learn anything.


is it yours?
coz it's religious not religeous
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PostPosted: Sat, 12th May 2007 03:02    Post subject:
Alllah


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PostPosted: Sat, 12th May 2007 03:06    Post subject:
i loled

direct line

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PostPosted: Sat, 12th May 2007 04:49    Post subject: Re: Religious people are dumb fucks.
PoorLeno wrote:
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PoorLeno wrote:


You sir, are a fucktard.


Because ??????

jebus told u ?


No, if I were to belive in "jebus", I wouldn't write "fucktard", because that would imply that I commit (eh, sorta) a sin. You are just a very very stupid person. I hope you never procreate. That would make the world a much nicer place to live in.


ok go back to enjoying ya fairy tales
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PostPosted: Sat, 12th May 2007 06:10    Post subject:
Bible was written so people wouldnt do bad shit. Period.
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PostPosted: Sat, 12th May 2007 10:18    Post subject:
Hehe eliz
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PostPosted: Sat, 12th May 2007 11:03    Post subject:
JahLux wrote:
Bible was written so people wouldnt do bad shit. Period.

Bible was written because a bunch of fanatical weed-smoking acid-trip people had the day off and were too bored. Laughing


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PostPosted: Sat, 12th May 2007 11:05    Post subject:
Parallax_ wrote:
JahLux wrote:
Bible was written so people wouldnt do bad shit. Period.

Bible was written because a bunch of fanatical weed-smoking acid-trip people had the day off and were too bored. Laughing


It's true, I was there, I made the cover Cool


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PostPosted: Sat, 12th May 2007 11:53    Post subject:
SpykeZ wrote:
Parallax_ wrote:
JahLux wrote:
Bible was written so people wouldnt do bad shit. Period.

Bible was written because a bunch of fanatical weed-smoking acid-trip people had the day off and were too bored. Laughing


It's true, I was there, I made the cover Cool


Theres actually a missing page from the Bible - the very first page. it reads something like:

"All characters contained herein are completely ficticious, any resemblance to persons living or dead is purely coincidental - please also note this was written for entertainment purposes and we advise you not to carry out the various acts of torture/miracles/crucifictian and so forth, at home YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED! "

It was removed so that guys could carry on wearing cassocks and silly hats, and tocuhing up little boys whenever they felt like it Smile
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PostPosted: Sat, 12th May 2007 12:00    Post subject:
Religious people are indeed retards but religion should exist in my opinion. Because I know some people saying; "if there wasn't a god i'd steal that car and rape that woman" .

moral of story " religion is needed by retards" period. you don't need a religion to be "good".
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PostPosted: Sat, 12th May 2007 12:05    Post subject:
Reg67 wrote:
Theres actually a missing page from the Bible - the very first page. it reads something like:

"All characters contained herein are completely ficticious, any resemblance to persons living or dead is purely coincidental - please also note this was written for entertainment purposes and we advise you not to carry out the various acts of torture/miracles/crucifictian and so forth, at home YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED! "

It was removed so that guys could carry on wearing cassocks and silly hats, and tocuhing up little boys whenever they felt like it Smile


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PostPosted: Sat, 12th May 2007 12:50    Post subject:
What makes you guys think you know how people should lead their lives? As long as it's possible to be religious Very Happy and a decent human being, what makes you think you have the right to look down on it as a source of moral guidance.

Some of it is daft, but it's ironic that underneath the crap slang insults, the main criticism is to do with inequality, and yet that's exactly what you're demonstrating.

If you judge the group based on principles targeted at the individual you're wrong and ignorant.
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PostPosted: Sat, 12th May 2007 14:12    Post subject:
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As long as it's possible to be religious Very Happy and a decent human being, .....


Those two things are mutually exclusive. Sure you can be decent, but only towards people who are similar to you. ALL religions may preach common values such brotherhood and peace and free love Very Happy but they are based on one simple assumption. It's their way or the highway (to hell usually). Anyone not following the word (ie their word) is damned/doomed/infidel/etc. Once you accept their word it's fine.

Even that decency is a sham since it is a result of external factors such as promises of reward or threats of punishment. Those restraints can only keep the beast within us all (not a reference to satan but to our primal instincts) subdued for only so long. The best discipline would be self or internal discipline but that is not only difficult to achieve but also very subjective.
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PostPosted: Sat, 12th May 2007 14:35    Post subject:
That's completely wrong. You can be religious treat other people properly and respect their right to a view even if you believe they are wrong in what they believe. That's the principle of politics dude.



The main aim isn't to get everyone to think the same, it's to coexist.
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PostPosted: Sat, 12th May 2007 15:09    Post subject:
LanceBullet wrote:
That's completely wrong. You can be religious treat other people properly and respect their right to a view even if you believe they are wrong in what they believe. That's the principle of politics dude.



The main aim isn't to get everyone to think the same, it's to coexist.


Your post illustrates the the crux of the problem. You mention that my pov is wrong, ergo (damn been wanted to use that word for a long time Very Happy) yours is RIGHT. How can you accept someone whom you BELIEVE to be wrong. The two cannot co-exist. Even less likely is the possibility that we are both right.

And your point about politics doesn't even apply to religion. Politics works according to the very simple principle of majority. The minority (opposition) may have an opinion and may even voice it but it doesn't change the balance of power. They may even have the people's support and protest till the cows come home but it still won't change a thing. I am referring ofcourse to a situation where the ruling party has a clear majority. A multi-party coalition is slightly different but even within the coalition the bigger party mostly prevails.

Okay enough of this theoretical stuff. Most countries have a dominant religion and other religions are usually minorities. What happens to the 'religious rights' of the minorities? Where is the respect/acceptance/co-existence? I am referring to religious holidays, clothing such as veils/burqas, etc.

The reality is that even on those issues, the majority prevails till the balance of power remains unchanged. Look at countries where there is no such clear majority such as Nigeria where the difference is not so big. Even there, the two religions christianity and islam are concentrated in different regions. Imagine the situation where there are no such regional concentrations. Madness. Razz

In short, co-existence does not exist. What we call democracy is nothing but a refined form of one of the oldest laws of history. Might is right.
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PostPosted: Sat, 12th May 2007 15:19    Post subject:
My point about politics is exactly the point. A governing system that doesn't discriminate based on faith. I never mentioned democracy.

As long as religion doesn't play a part in the political process then how is there a problem in how somebody chooses to lead their personal life?

I'm not talking about Religious states, I'm talking about multiculturalism, or don't you think that's possible?
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PostPosted: Sat, 12th May 2007 15:47    Post subject:
Governments don't discriminate on the basis of faith explicitly but because of history/tradition the rights of religious minorities don't get the same priority. I want jewish holidays and muslim holidays and jedi holidays.

Religion is a large part of personal life which tends to clash with the socially accepted customs. Example: Sikh turbans, islamic dress, etc.

Multiculturalism is possible. Multireligiousism Razz is not. No problems with englishpeoples, scotspeoples and walespeoples living side by side. Not major ones anyway. Catholics and Protestants living side by side - problems.

Btw, we can argue till the sun burns out and we may even reach some sort of acceptance of each other but the WHOLE world has to reach the same point. But as long as we are not on the same page it doesn't mean much. And since we are all using different books (religious ones) I don't see it happening anytime soon.
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PostPosted: Sat, 12th May 2007 15:53    Post subject:
Fair play, but without idealism what's the point?

I think many of the faith based conflicts also contain a healthy dose of deep rooted social conflict.

In the UK what about Catholic and Muslim?, where there isn't a long social history, and there is a government that doesn't, in the main, categorise it's people based on faith, no problem. Unless there are underlying social problems like unemployment that drive people to seek out difference.
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PostPosted: Sat, 12th May 2007 15:58    Post subject:
For some an ideal is something to strive for Smile but for others it's just something that one wakes up from to face the reality Sad. I belong to the latter group because maybe I am a pessimist. But I tend to think of myself as someone who has realised that we humans are (and will remain) flawed until some radical changes take place. I am talking some kind of higher level of thinking or some kind of intellectual evolution. Revelation.
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PostPosted: Sun, 13th May 2007 02:06    Post subject:
nice posts swing Smile
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PostPosted: Sun, 13th May 2007 17:51    Post subject:
Thanks Cart. Didn't think anyone read them since they tend to be a little long. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun, 13th May 2007 18:16    Post subject:
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nice posts swing Smile

yeah, maybe there is god and maybe there isn't, but one thing for certain, you are a fucktard and your 3 world replies are pathetic. i hate attention whores like you more than religious fanatics.


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