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LeoNatan
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Edit: Hmm, now not so sure. :\
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| Posted: Wed, 15th Apr 2009 14:22 Post subject: |
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| iNatan wrote: | | Edit: Hmm, now not so sure. :\ |
C-C-C-COMMMBO BREAKER...
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| Posted: Wed, 15th Apr 2009 15:07 Post subject: |
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| DV2 wrote: | | iNatan wrote: | | Edit: Hmm, now not so sure. :\ |
C-C-C-COMMMBO BREAKER... |
HUMILIATION
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| Posted: Wed, 15th Apr 2009 15:39 Post subject: |
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| Stefan F wrote: | | DV2 wrote: | | iNatan wrote: | | Edit: Hmm, now not so sure. :\ |
C-C-C-COMMMBO BREAKER... |
HUMILIATION |
PERFECT
emmm...back on topic ^^;...heard rumours that Vista SP2 would be released this April,or "Before Windows 7"...anyone confirm this?
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| Posted: Wed, 15th Apr 2009 16:48 Post subject: |
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| Mortibus wrote: | vista 64
most stable OS m$ ever made |
Yeah until the DRM kicks in.
Now I know it has not caused much problems yet (supposedly only when playing HD media), but it is still very very evil of microsoft. Also, I listened to a roundtable on windows 7 with microsoft etc. and it was apparant that their main focus is how windows 7 will be received by the large PC manufacturers - everything is tailored to their needs WHICH MAKES ME FUCKING SICK...
BTW: I stole a vista key at work. The machine had the sticker on it, but the IT dept. has XP deployed. I AM GOING TO BURN THAT KEY!
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Frant
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| Posted: Wed, 15th Apr 2009 22:21 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Wed, 15th Apr 2009 23:12 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Thu, 16th Apr 2009 05:24 Post subject: |
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Finnally got rid of xp and went with vista64 bit, to say it is faster is an understatement.
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| Posted: Thu, 16th Apr 2009 18:12 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Thu, 16th Apr 2009 18:50 Post subject: |
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Guise, I was semi-joking about actually burning it, but I can't understand how people are happy with the fact that theres hidden mechanisms in vista (I would try it if there wasn't). I don't know a lot about vista (the drm issue made me look away), but has the drm even been cracked?
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Thu, 16th Apr 2009 18:52 Post subject: |
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What DRM is that? The one that sands data to the FBI? Or the one that asks MS if you can play the video file whenever you try to play your favorite porn video? 
You've probably read an article that has blown something out of proportions, like most that haven't actually tried Vista but have read about something misleading, and put your head in the sand.
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spankie
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| Posted: Fri, 17th Apr 2009 00:22 Post subject: |
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wel vista is a baby OS. Asking all the time if you are sure etc.
But once you have fintuned it for your needs, you have to admit it is easy. You have to do nothing and it keeps going. No crashes so far, no frozen screen. Just plug and play.
The only shitty thing is that the auto update once screwed up my boot loader and totally fried my dual boot system. But in the end, the vista recovery cd fixed most of the problems. The CentOS was gone forever, the windows even repartitioned the 'usb stick' *cough cough* as a FAT32 drive. That 'usb stick' was my linux partition. But besides that i had no problems so far.
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| Posted: Fri, 17th Apr 2009 00:46 Post subject: |
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any news on the final Vista SP2?...and W7?
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nouseforaname
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| Posted: Fri, 17th Apr 2009 03:00 Post subject: |
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| pwr wrote: | | You are probably right, it was the Peter Guttmann article mostly. |
gotta love the idiot that takes so much time to write an article but can be arsed to actually try it himself.
| Quote: | | Gutmann allegedly did no experimental work with Vista to prove his theories. Rather, he makes mistaken assumptions and then speculates wildly on their implications. |
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| Posted: Fri, 17th Apr 2009 08:55 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Fri, 17th Apr 2009 17:11 Post subject: |
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Well yeah =) I don't hate Microsoft (I even have friends who work/have worked there) but I dislike any covert shit, and wan't to know as much as possible about it before I try a product no matter how tempting it is =)
Thanks for the link ManMountain =)
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| Posted: Fri, 17th Apr 2009 17:14 Post subject: |
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| nouseforaname wrote: | | pwr wrote: | | You are probably right, it was the Peter Guttmann article mostly. |
gotta love the idiot that takes so much time to write an article but can be arsed to actually try it himself.
| Quote: | | Gutmann allegedly did no experimental work with Vista to prove his theories. Rather, he makes mistaken assumptions and then speculates wildly on their implications. |
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Hmm... yeah. Maybe I put too much faith in Peter Guttman =)
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Fri, 17th Apr 2009 17:23 Post subject: |
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| nouseforaname wrote: | | gotta love the idiot that takes so much time to write an article but can be arsed to actually try it himself. |
True about almost all of the bullshit people think about Vista... |
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| Posted: Fri, 17th Apr 2009 17:50 Post subject: |
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any news on Vista SP2 and W7?,searched throu google but nothing..Vista rumored for April (NAO) and W7 after SP2?...*shrugs*
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Fri, 17th Apr 2009 17:52 Post subject: |
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Stop asking every 2 posts the same thing.  If you don't see the news, what you think we have magic source? http://www.winsupersite.com - when it says they are released, they are released, jeez.
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| Posted: Fri, 17th Apr 2009 20:07 Post subject: |
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sorry,didnt knew about that site ^^;;..
i'm thinkin' of gettin a Pinnacle Moviebox Plus 510,since it's listed in the Pinnacle's compatibility for X64...and sell the Dazzle shit..
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| Posted: Fri, 17th Apr 2009 20:28 Post subject: |
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pinnacle has shit software that has problems in xp too
i'd look for alternative
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Frant
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| Posted: Fri, 17th Apr 2009 21:16 Post subject: |
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Interesting read @ winsupersite about proprietary vs free/open software: http://www.winsupersite.com/alt/keith_curtis_02.asp
I don't agree with the guys analogues though:
| Quote: | | The next line in the book is that the problem with alchemy is that everyone had to learn for themselves that drinking mercury is a bad idea. Progress in math and science happens when scientists have "shoulders to stand on." |
He compares software with math and science to build his "slogan", something I don't agree with. Using his analogy I'd say that the alembics, boilers and all other stuff an alchemist had in his laboratory weren't just given to him and every other alchemist in the world, they had to buy their tools to perform their alchemy. Mathematicians and scientists usually use computers, calculators, chalk(!) etc. that have been paid for by themselves, their university, their employer etc.
The deal with free/open software is more complex than that and it's kind of regrettable that people like him keep using flawed slogans and logic like that. It only helps confuse the subject even more.
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| Posted: Fri, 17th Apr 2009 22:25 Post subject: |
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| Mortibus wrote: | pinnacle has shit software that has problems in xp too
i'd look for alternative |
The bad thing is that my Dazzle Video Creator Platinum is not detected well on Vegas Pro 8...i capture on Pinnacle,i work with the stuff on Vegas Pro 8..is that good?...
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fwb73
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| Posted: Fri, 17th Apr 2009 22:35 Post subject: |
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| Frant wrote: | | fwb73 wrote: | for me the only difference between xp and vista is the changes to the audio hal. otherwise performance wise they are the same for me (to within a percent or so). Win7 seems no quicker than either for me but server2k8 seems to be faster during use (for my setup vista & xp = 32bit. win7 & server2k8 = 64bit).
XP = pro audio, Vista = gaming & day2day, server2k8 = experimenting, Win7 = everyday & gaming once final is released |
pro audio? If you're talking about ASIO capabilities I can tell you that ASIO is 100% supported in Vista and Win7. I'm using ASIO 2.0 on my X-Fi Platinum with Reaper (amazing sequencer for an amazing price).
http://www.reaper.fm/ |
no i mean vista removing hardware acceleration from audio. I have asio 2 drivers for my cards in all my o/s' but that doesnt give you all the dsp's features. the difference in cpu load is significant, under xp most audio processing can be offloaded to the card, running emu cards on xp have nearly zero cpu load for all processing/mixing/effects, under vista / win7 /server2k8 i get a hefty cpu hit when running lots of fx/ routing/channels.
have tried reaper but not really same league as sonar 8/cubase 4/nuendo 3 etc. Still have most of my commonly used audio apps installed on vista for messing around, but always go back to xp for serious work. (btw your xfi & my emu cards are pretty much the same card under the skin, what makes the emu cards entry level pro rather than high end home is just the pre-amps and component quality and drivers/software)
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| Posted: Fri, 17th Apr 2009 23:16 Post subject: |
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Vista x64 on Pavilion ! Rox ! XP go home bitch !
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| Posted: Fri, 17th Apr 2009 23:47 Post subject: |
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its weird..my tower led cant stop blinkin' even if CPU usage's under 10% (Logitech G15) and RAM usage 15-40% (no programs opened),usin 4GB 633mhz..weird ne?..usin' SP2 0607 to try things out...but i think SP2 makes Vista loads slower?
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