quick question re: win7 and going 64bit
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Mortibus




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PostPosted: Sun, 26th Dec 2010 19:58    Post subject:
first image from
64 bit with 4gb ddr2
second from 32 bit 2gb ddr2

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both freshly rebooted and have similiar apps running in the background, similiar specs as well
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PostPosted: Sun, 26th Dec 2010 20:32    Post subject:
I'm having 1,1 GB used in my 64bit Win7 on idle. Either way it's considerably higher than the 32bit screenshot you posted.
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PostPosted: Sun, 26th Dec 2010 20:39    Post subject:
sim apps maybe but the 2nd rendition there is already settling down its cycles where as the first run on x64 is showing its still high app cycling as if its just opened. the other well its already past that due to the spike u see and has reduced and settled after initial run Very Happy

do a fairer comparison plx....
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PostPosted: Sun, 26th Dec 2010 21:03    Post subject:
what are u talking about Confused
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moosenoodles




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PostPosted: Mon, 27th Dec 2010 01:25    Post subject:
you dont see the cpu usage is different in those pics?

one is showing a shot of the cpu just gone into activity so peaks at top like when it starts an app or something, the bottom screenshot shows that initial peak passed already in the timeline meaning the os and app has had time to settle down showing a discrepency now between itself and the one thats only just started up..

simple really.
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PostPosted: Mon, 27th Dec 2010 01:47    Post subject:
that was when i was making screens
what cpu usage has anything to do with ram usage, those were just spikes
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PostPosted: Sun, 9th Jan 2011 09:45    Post subject:
Your less likely to get a virus with 64.
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PostPosted: Sun, 9th Jan 2011 13:46    Post subject:
how so?
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PostPosted: Sun, 9th Jan 2011 13:48    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Sun, 9th Jan 2011 13:50    Post subject:
and windows 64 bit does not support 32bit apps

ahhh i see Cool Face
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PostPosted: Sun, 9th Jan 2011 13:51    Post subject:
It's true that many trojans screw up on x64. Bad testing, tsk tsk tsk.
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PostPosted: Sun, 9th Jan 2011 13:53    Post subject:
well those hackers need to work on compatibility together with m$ then Smug
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PostPosted: Sun, 9th Jan 2011 15:08    Post subject:
They screw up because they try to infect other processes; a 32-bit process (your trojan) can only see other 32-bit processes in Win7, therefor a lot less processes can be infected. Here's the kicker though: file access is fine, so anything that wants to fuck with your filesystem can still do so fine on x64.

The memory claim about x64 is bollocks though. It doesn't double in memory usage because it's running x64, it doubles because there's more RAM available. Win7 aims to use about a third of the available memory to load services/drivers and cache whatever it finds worth caching. I'm sure some x64 drivers will consume marginally more memory than their x86 counterpart, but that's not where the memory usage comes from.
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PostPosted: Sun, 9th Jan 2011 18:07    Post subject:
bollox or not same setup with 4gb ram, it will still use almost twice as less ram on x86 OS
tested myself several times
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PostPosted: Sun, 9th Jan 2011 18:15    Post subject:
*sigh* <insert massive wall of facepalm here>

I'm going to say this once and then walk away; FREE RAM IS WASTED RAM. Period. Google for SUPERFETCH and have an enlightening read =) Hell, the following article is from 2006 and - I believe - it excellently explains WHY Vista (and now, subsequently, Windows 7) "used" so much memory.

http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2006/09/why-does-vista-use-all-my-memory.html

It's a great feature and it works spectacularly. So much so that I'm stunned it took MS so long to implement it.
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PostPosted: Sun, 9th Jan 2011 18:52    Post subject:
But when starting the task manager I don't see my megabytes as free!!11.. Crying or Very sad lol wut
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Mister_s




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PostPosted: Sun, 9th Jan 2011 18:55    Post subject:
I got 0MB!!!! free RAM, zilch. Fuck Win7.
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PostPosted: Sun, 9th Jan 2011 18:56    Post subject:
And AERO takes 4MB of ram! Crying or Very sad lol wut
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I love this site Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun, 9th Jan 2011 19:02    Post subject:
i thought it was 32mb lol wut
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PostPosted: Sun, 9th Jan 2011 19:12    Post subject:
Shocked !



Mad lol wut
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PostPosted: Sun, 9th Jan 2011 19:14    Post subject:
ZOMG!!! mine is only using 20,408k.... WTFMAN!?1 Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun, 9th Jan 2011 19:26    Post subject:
just looked at mine dwm.exe 22mb
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PostPosted: Sun, 9th Jan 2011 19:27    Post subject:
chiv wrote:
ok final final question. i know fuck all about ram, whats good and what not... im running an evga 680i mobo, so im limited to ddr2 memory...

CORSAIR CM2X2048-6400C5 2GB DDR2-800 XMS2 CL5

that should do me fine, right? grab 2 of those for 4gb?

ok and final FINAL question:

at the moment i have:
Corsair TWIN2X2048-8500C5D XMS2 which gives me 2gb...

now the final final question is can i lump those together for 6gb total, or does it matter that one is 8500 and one is 6400?

like i said, i know fuck all about ram, really...


Yes, yes and no it won't matter.

If you put the new RAM in with the old, the old RAM will run at the lower clock speed of 800mhz. I seriously doubt you will get compatibility issues with that combination and all the RAM will still run in dual channel. You will probably have to up the volts a little but apart from that everything should be fine.


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Mister_s




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PostPosted: Sun, 9th Jan 2011 19:38    Post subject:
Regular users shouldn't even think about RAM and shit. Unlees you want that nanosecond advantage, it doesn't make a difference. Just get a good set (dual-channel is a must) and use it. Unless you do some crazy shit, it'll work fine.
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PostPosted: Sun, 9th Jan 2011 20:15    Post subject:
iNatan wrote:
Shocked !



Mad lol wut




i hit the sweet spot lol wut
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PostPosted: Tue, 11th Jan 2011 16:51    Post subject:

17mb! bill gates promised I'd never need more than 512kb. What is this unoptimized piece of shit. Cool Face lol wut
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Smug


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PostPosted: Tue, 11th Jan 2011 20:40    Post subject:
little curiousity: iNatan mentioned the Aero 4MB thing without me saying a word about it grinhurt...*Dash away!*


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