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deelix
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@Stormwolf
Im not all black and white, but it seems like a very cold an bitter attitude :/
A man should be able to control himself even tho a girl gets him really worked up... id like to think we're past that caveman stage...
It can be compared to other types of physical abuse. For example, is it ok to give a woman a black eye because she was nagging/being annoying?
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tonizito
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Jun 2013 17:54 Post subject: |
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| red_avatar wrote: | You can look at it from an unrealistic point of view and just say "raping is bad, full stop and women are never to blame for it" or you can be realistic, realize there's guys out there that think with their dick, and educate girls on how they should behave and what they shouldn't do.
Some girls pretend to be sluts, get guys to spend a small fortune in drinks on them, and when it comes down to it, let the guys down and have a good laugh about how gullible they were. It has become a game for some to get as many free drinks and as much free crap without "putting out" leaving a sexually frustrated guy behind who feels wronged. Now, gee, I wonder why that guy would use rape to get back at her? 
Bottom line: I don't condone rape, but women shouldn't be vicious bitches and manipulate horny guys either - I can't see I'd feel sorry if women like that do get raped. It's a harsh lesson to learn, but life lessons often are. |
Pay for someone else's drinks... wat?
I'll do it for my friends on my birthday if I happen to bump into them, and even then they have to "remind" me of it.
But for some girl that I've just met, regardless of how attractive she is? 
And guys still fall for that shit... well, guess they really think with their dicks then 
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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Morphineus
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Jun 2013 18:06 Post subject: |
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Rape is never okay. Rape is Rape. If we as a society need to define what is rape and what isn't we sure have gone the wrong way.
Seems we hit the point where the majority of humans go backwards. Too much ignorance going on for our own good.
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Jun 2013 18:13 Post subject: |
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Yeah, cause paying for some ladies drinks does equate me getting to insert my manstick into her...so yes, rape is always ok but only after drinks.
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zipfero
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Jun 2013 18:16 Post subject: |
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| zipfero wrote: | | xxax wrote: | | red_avatar wrote: |
And yet he has a point. Do you think a bear is bad for mauling an idiot who has been poking it with a stick for the past last hour? People need to stop acting like nothing is their fault and learn to face the consequences of their actions. Spend an hour mocking a guy and don't act surprised if his fist ends up in your face. So why would it be surprising if you tease and lead on a guy for ages and then act surprised when he won't take no for an answer. These guys are dickheads but you're an idiot if you couldn't see this as one of the possible outcomes - another being a fist/slap in the face even if you're a girl. |
So when does it start to be teasing? If a girls smiles at you? Is that teasing? What about if she talks to you? For some dickheads that can be enough. And a bear is an animal. Not the same thing.
I don't like the wording. She teases a guy she has only herself to blame. No. We as rational beings cannot operate like that. She has to take some responsibility for what happened but to blame her that? Just no. The blame falls on the guy who can't keep his dick in check. Its not nice to tease a guy, but to get raped for it? Kinda unfair trade-off if you ask me. Serious emotional scars because some guy thought he should have gotten some action? |
Are you comparing human beings to bears? Is that a reflection of your own IQ or social skills? |
Either I misread xaxa or he's not actually agreeing with rape being ok. o.O |
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Jun 2013 19:02 Post subject: |
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Hey, i never said rape is OK. I only say that i don't have any sympathy for them when they tease and exploit a man til the point they get raped.
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Jun 2013 19:04 Post subject: |
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| Atropa wrote: | | Did anyone actually bother to follow the link in the op?` |
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Jun 2013 19:11 Post subject: |
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| Stormwolf wrote: | | Hey, i never said rape is OK. I only say that i don't have any sympathy for them when they tease and exploit a man til the point they get raped. |
| Stormwolf wrote: | | Don't care. If a girl teases and arouses someone to the point she got raped, she got what she deserved. Not saying i would do it, in fact i would not. I don't feel an ounce of sympathy for the victim either though. |
No, what you said was.
"It's ok she got raped because she didn't put out." |
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Morphineus
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Jun 2013 19:15 Post subject: |
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off topic: Prefetian I can't help to read your posts in the voice of Matt Berry. No matter how wrong or serious it always cracks me up 
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Jun 2013 19:17 Post subject: |
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| MORPHINEUS wrote: | | off topic: Prefetian I can't help to read your posts in the voice of Matt Berry. No matter how wrong or serious it always cracks me up |
That's because I shouldn't be setting my foot into these discussions to begin with. 
NOBODY TAKES ME SERIOUSLY!  |
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Jun 2013 21:01 Post subject: |
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Rape is never okay but sometimes it can be a sort of poetic justice. When you see some left wing extremists here in Sweden propagate for lower sentences in prison and more immigration from MENA countries you can't help but laugh when one of them get raped and as a bonus HIV
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Jun 2013 21:02 Post subject: |
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| trucane wrote: | | Rape is never okay but sometimes it can be a sort of poetic justice. When you see some left wing extremists here in Sweden propagate for lower sentences in prison and more immigration from MENA countries you can't help but laugh when one of them get raped and as a bonus HIV |
What the fuck is wrong with you? |
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Ankh
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Jun 2013 21:06 Post subject: |
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If a girl decides to masturbate infront of me and tease me to pieces...it's still not ok for me to rape her.
shitloads of new stuff in my pc. Cant keep track of it all.
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Jun 2013 21:10 Post subject: |
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| trucane wrote: | | Prefetian wrote: | | trucane wrote: | | Rape is never okay but sometimes it can be a sort of poetic justice. When you see some left wing extremists here in Sweden propagate for lower sentences in prison and more immigration from MENA countries you can't help but laugh when one of them get raped and as a bonus HIV |
What the fuck is wrong with you? |
Nothing 
But I guess it's only poetic justice when americans against gun control are shot to death
Right? |
It was a rhetorical question. |
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Mutantius
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zipfero
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zipfero
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Jun 2013 21:41 Post subject: |
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| Stormwolf wrote: | | Hey, i never said rape is OK. I only say that i don't have any sympathy for them when they tease and exploit a man til the point they get raped. |
Aah..The ever definitive and well outlined "point". Every woman knows when they've gone too far and the only outcome is them getting brutally raped. And if they don't im sure people of Stormwolf's ilk will show them.
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fisk
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Jun 2013 21:56 Post subject: |
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I wonder if these retarded people who think women deserve to get raped also think that they should deserve getting murdered for flaunting their stupidity officially like this.
"trucane and Stormwolf were being idiots so they deserved getting murdered, they had it coming."
Yes, yes I'm back.
Somewhat.
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Jun 2013 23:24 Post subject: |
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So many self righteous pricks in this thread.
Get off your high horses.
It's a crime, yes, no more justifiable than murder, but in the above scenarios, both parties are guilty.
Clown Fiesta
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zipfero
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Jun 2013 23:36 Post subject: |
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| Rage wrote: | So many self righteous pricks in this thread.
Get off your high horses.
It's a crime, yes, no more justifiable than murder, but in the above scenarios, both parties are guilty. |
No.
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Ankh
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Jun 2013 23:43 Post subject: |
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| Rage wrote: | So many self righteous pricks in this thread.
Get off your high horses.
It's a crime, yes, no more justifiable than murder, but in the above scenarios, both parties are guilty. |
lol wtf? hahaha are you for real?
shitloads of new stuff in my pc. Cant keep track of it all.
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Mutantius
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| Posted: Sun, 16th Jun 2013 00:05 Post subject: |
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Any kind of forced sex is rape in my book since a "she was teasing me" defence is extremely subjective and therefore objective, hard limits must be set. You forced a woman into sex, you raped her.
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