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vurt




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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Jan 2024 07:55    Post subject:
yeah jet pack any day over e.g grappling hook Razz much harder to do jet pack of course, requires you to make a proper open world game, not "fake" game worlds like in e.g Jedi Survivor.
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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Jan 2024 20:46    Post subject:
I admit that the jetpack in Elex 2 is fun, especially when fully upgraded (and when using a mod to get the unlimited fuel before finishing the game). PB knew people liked it in 1 and developed it further in 2, so they had at least some ability to listen to fans.

Meanwhile Biowere wanted to remove flying from Anthem, because it hurt their feelings gamers might miss ground content.


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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Jan 2024 22:01    Post subject:
tbh i loved g1-2, risen 1 and 3 and elex but fact is they kinda didnt really evolve.
I liked their game design but all games had still the same jank or weird issues like melee combat being bad/broken or shitty character models etc.
Guess they finally paid the price for not evolving enough.
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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Jan 2024 23:33    Post subject:
https://www.nexusmods.com/elex/mods/132

anyone tried his mods? quite a large pack of mods (ranging from stupid to really adding something good, from the looks of it), also available for ELEX 2 (this is actually a port of some of those mods to ELEX 1).

Might give it a try with ELEX 2 hehe (never tried the game).


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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Jan 2024 23:35    Post subject:
Haven't tried it, but I still want to finish ELEX2, so I might use it with that. Thanks!

https://www.nexusmods.com/elex2/mods/66
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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Jan 2024 23:37    Post subject:
Let me know if it was any good Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun, 21st Jan 2024 00:09    Post subject:
vurt wrote:
https://www.nexusmods.com/elex/mods/132

anyone tried his mods? quite a large pack of mods (ranging from stupid to really adding something good, from the looks of it), also available for ELEX 2 (this is actually a port of some of those mods to ELEX 1).

Might give it a try with ELEX 2 hehe (never tried the game).
The only thing I want is ELEX2's jetpack ported over to ELEX. A few months back, either I missed it or it simply didn't exit.


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Bendi




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PostPosted: Sun, 21st Jan 2024 03:45    Post subject:
Some new info. Apparently nothing is certain right now (google translate)


Seems Mr.Proper ran PB like an autocrat and most of the team wanted to make a game with a smaller world, in a dark fantasy setting (not Gothic, but similar)
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PostPosted: Mon, 22nd Jan 2024 01:23    Post subject:
Tried again with the mod but I can't stand this game. The combat for one, and the dialogue is atrocious. Maybe it sounds better in a language I don't understand Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon, 22nd Jan 2024 10:59    Post subject:
Interinactive wrote:
Tried again with the mod but I can't stand this game. The combat for one, and the dialogue is atrocious. Maybe it sounds better in a language I don't understand Laughing


the landscape looks so generic too... very little effort seems to have been put into it Sad
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PostPosted: Mon, 22nd Jan 2024 11:16    Post subject:
I liked ELEX and I was looking forward to the sequel. I bought this at launch and I will never play it. I don't want to taint Elex and PB's memory with it. Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon, 22nd Jan 2024 11:57    Post subject:
Interinactive wrote:
Tried again with the mod but I can't stand this game. The combat for one, and the dialogue is atrocious. Maybe it sounds better in a language I don't understand Laughing


I tried the first game after hearing so much praise and it just seemed like an alpha of a 2002 game. I did enjoy Risen but that was 2009. Even Elex 2 seems to be still stuck in that era.
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PostPosted: Mon, 22nd Jan 2024 12:22    Post subject:
Elex 1 has fun exploration. If you see a building on the map it will not be a randomly generated outpost, but something handplaced.
I still think the available content would profit from a smaller world, but it carried the gameplay nicely amongst a pretty forgettable plot.


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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Jan 2024 17:19    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Jan 2024 17:51    Post subject:
On their site there are also polish and german (duh) versions of this message. Kinda feel like they should've prepared a russian one too.


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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Jan 2024 20:09    Post subject:
Presumably this wouldnt affect the Gothic remake as Piranha Bytes have nothing to do with it?


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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Jan 2024 20:15    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Jan 2024 21:54    Post subject:
garus wrote:
headshot wrote:
Presumably this wouldnt affect the Gothic remake as Piranha Bytes have nothing to do with it?

Yeah that remake is dead in the water regardles Laughing

jk I don't know but the demo/teaser came out so many years ago I have zero hopes.


they still post updates from time to time if you follow them on Steam. But yeah it's slow for sure..
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PostPosted: Wed, 24th Jan 2024 06:20    Post subject:
Remake is still alive for now, but the earliest we'll see it is 2025.


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PostPosted: Wed, 24th Jan 2024 08:57    Post subject:
I honestly don't care about the remake. I highly doubt they can catch exactly what made that game so good and translate that into a modern game.

I also stopped caring about Piranha Bytes since they don't ever seem to know what made Gothic Games good in the first place. Alawys trying to modernize the Gothic formula only served to make mediocre games that were neither meat nor fish. Either do a real gothic-like game or make a modern game. Elex 1 was kind of fun. But I never finished Elex 2 and I found the setting both awkward and laughable, though somehow charming in its jank. I can put up with alot, but Elex 2 just became boring.

I'll replay Gothic I and II, Risen I and sometimes even Gothic 3 for the nostalgia.


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PostPosted: Wed, 24th Jan 2024 10:08    Post subject:
Gothic 2 remains their best game for me. I don't think it's nostalgia, because Chronicles of Myrtana followed their principles of design fairly accurately and was amazing.

I also like Risen 2 and 3, it's Elex 2 I also could not finish.


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PostPosted: Wed, 24th Jan 2024 10:27    Post subject:
Yeah, Chronicles of Myrtana was amazing for a mod. I'll probably replay that one too once in a while.


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PostPosted: Wed, 24th Jan 2024 10:37    Post subject:
it's too bad the controls have aged so poorly for G2, they feel so stiff and slow (or "digital"). Other than that the game is amazing.
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PostPosted: Wed, 24th Jan 2024 15:16    Post subject:
Completely forgot about Chronicles of Myrtana Surprised


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PostPosted: Wed, 24th Jan 2024 17:41    Post subject:
Alas, when even the most loyal fanbase loses trust in your work and at the same time you fail to appeal to new users, there aren't many possible outcomes left for a small-ish studio.

With ELEX 2 for instance it would have been sufficient to repropose the same game in a slightly different dress with just a few QoL tweaks here and there, but for some (arcane) reason, PB thought it would be great to jeopardize their legacy once more. Between the absolutely baffling introductory hours/dialogues, the terrible initial performance + camera/m&kb settings and the game itself progressively turning into a Korean-like grindfest, it's difficult to even find a logical thread in their modus operandi. The game does have some decent content and I still had more fun with it than DA:I & most tripeA stuff since I'm a jankie, but that doesn't make it any less disappointing. *shakes fist*

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Completely forgot about Chronicles of Myrtana Surprised

Same, it's been silently sitting in my .txt backlog and forgot about its existence since I was busy trying out new games. Hopefully it will serve as a nice palate cleanser for the future Razz
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PostPosted: Wed, 24th Jan 2024 18:36    Post subject:
At this point you can wait till 2025 when version 2.0 hits. No new quests, but they'll add spells, some smaller locations, equipment and QoL improvements.


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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Jul 2024 16:35    Post subject:
Reportedly Piranha Bytes closed 1 week ago. No official statement yet, but their site is all empty with only the logo. Sad Okay

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At this point, he has not commented on the fate of the company, but according to our information, the studio will most likely not make any official statements, allowing itself to leave peacefully and quietly.


https://www.cdaction.pl/newsy/piranha-bytes-closed-the-end-of-the-studio-behind-gothic-risen-and-elex

https://www.piranha-bytes.com/
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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Jul 2024 18:34    Post subject:
too embarrassed to even say goodbye.

well, thanks for Gothic's and, to a lesser extent, Risen and Elex 1.
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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Jul 2024 19:36    Post subject:
Damn.
RIP my german kurwas and thanks for the great memories, even ELEX 2 Crying or Very sad


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PostPosted: Fri, 12th Jul 2024 03:35    Post subject:
...aaaand they're back Laughing Pithead Studios.

https://www.reddit.com/r/pcgaming/comments/1dyuhki/with_pithead_studio_we_have_founded_a_new_indie/



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