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PostPosted: Fri, 12th Mar 2021 10:36    Post subject:
"An argument or claim in which two completely opposing arguments appear to be logically equivalent when in fact they are not. The confusion is often due to one shared characteristic between two or more items of comparison in the argument that is way off in the order of magnitude, oversimplified, or just that important additional factors have been ignored."


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PostPosted: Fri, 12th Mar 2021 10:42    Post subject:
couleur wrote:
"An argument or claim in which two completely opposing arguments appear to be logically equivalent when in fact they are not. The confusion is often due to one shared characteristic between two or more items of comparison in the argument that is way off in the order of magnitude, oversimplified, or just that important additional factors have been ignored."


Thanks. I'm a bit baffled Nalo, to be honest. But we can go on with the sophisms while completely dismissing each other viewpoints' if you like Wink This wasn't where I was hoping to go at all, but I understand the topic is very loaded for a lot of people, apparently.


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PostPosted: Fri, 12th Mar 2021 10:43    Post subject:
AmpegV4 wrote:
Well put.

If i feel pressured and suck trans cock in a carpark, is that just straight now?

Sorry i find the thread kinda dumb, i think the correct answer like a lot of twitter/Reddit issues is simply who cares.


who are you being pressured by? on the up side they wont be very big and you wont have to swallow
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PostPosted: Fri, 12th Mar 2021 10:48    Post subject:
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I can't believe all the negative attention serial killers get. Most people never met a serial killer.


so now your saying transgender people are like serial killers??
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PostPosted: Fri, 12th Mar 2021 10:55    Post subject:
And if you wanna push your point further, yea, serial killers do get what I find an inappropriate amount of attention relative to their actual importance - there's something vaguely similar at hand here as well, akin to fascination, a form of morbid but excited curiosity.


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PostPosted: Fri, 12th Mar 2021 10:56    Post subject:
axl wrote:
Nalo wrote:
I can't believe all the negative attention serial killers get. Most people never met a serial killer.


so now your saying transgender people are like serial killers??


He was just arguing that you don't need to actively know something to be negatively judging it (aka I never met Hitler, so I must like him then ?), not that transgender people are serial killers. The bait was the cherry on top to emphasize the point.
I don't think that was my point whatsoever but let's deal in absolutes for such a subject, it'll be productive and totally different in attitude from those who were being criticized.


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PostPosted: Fri, 12th Mar 2021 11:00    Post subject:
Nalo wrote:
axl wrote:
Nalo wrote:
I can't believe all the negative attention serial killers get. Most people never met a serial killer.


so now your saying transgender people are like serial killers??


Are you offended? What about a transgender serial killer? Are you saying a transgender serial killer is not a transgender serial killer??


you made a sweeping statement comparing ALL transgender people to serial killer be same as comparing all CIS gender people to serial killers i guess a lot of people would not want to be compared to a serial killer
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PostPosted: Fri, 12th Mar 2021 11:04    Post subject:
TheZor wrote:
axl wrote:
Nalo wrote:
I can't believe all the negative attention serial killers get. Most people never met a serial killer.


so now your saying transgender people are like serial killers??


He was just arguing that you don't need to actively know something to be negatively judging it (aka I never met Hitler, so I must like him then ?), not that transgender people are serial killers. The bait was the cherry on top to emphasize the point.
I don't think that was my point whatsoever but let's deal in absolutes for such a subject, it'll be productive and totally different in attitude from those who were being criticized.


yeah think will stop with this thread now , but its nice being called/compare to a mentally ill / serial killer or both
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PostPosted: Fri, 12th Mar 2021 11:09    Post subject:
axl wrote:
TheZor wrote:
axl wrote:


so now your saying transgender people are like serial killers??


He was just arguing that you don't need to actively know something to be negatively judging it (aka I never met Hitler, so I must like him then ?), not that transgender people are serial killers. The bait was the cherry on top to emphasize the point.
I don't think that was my point whatsoever but let's deal in absolutes for such a subject, it'll be productive and totally different in attitude from those who were being criticized.


yeah think will stop with this thread now , but its nice being called/compare to a mentally il / serial killer or both


I doubt much good will come out of this thread, to be honest. I genuinely can't imagine Nalo was actively comparing transgender people with serial killers at all, only trying to refute my point by pushing it to the absurd.
But yeah, must be fun. Neutral


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PostPosted: Fri, 12th Mar 2021 11:17    Post subject:
TheZor wrote:

I doubt much good will come out of this thread, to be honest. I genuinely can't imagine Nalo was actively comparing transgender people with serial killers at all, only trying to refute my point by pushing it to the absurd.
But yeah, must be fun. Neutral


lucky most local peope / friends have no issues about me being transgender just mostly internet people with subjects like this and the massive toilet debate, i happily answer any non trolling question

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PostPosted: Fri, 12th Mar 2021 12:08    Post subject:
IMO it's sadly another case of extremely online guy/girl/xir/? fucking it up for the "normal" guy/girl/xir/? that is just trying to live their life.
Just like every other group there are also folks whose identity is based on much more than their sexuality/skin color/beliefs and can take a fucking joke or someone questioning those.

Fucking internet dood Sad
Well, fucking social media on the internet I guess.


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PostPosted: Fri, 12th Mar 2021 12:42    Post subject:
Nalo wrote:
couleur wrote:
"An argument or claim in which two completely opposing arguments appear to be logically equivalent when in fact they are not. The confusion is often due to one shared characteristic between two or more items of comparison in the argument that is way off in the order of magnitude, oversimplified, or just that important additional factors have been ignored."


"An analogy is a comparison of two otherwise unlike things based on resemblance of a particular aspect in order to show that they are similar in some way"


But in what aspect do they resemble?

Your analogy is a bit anal.


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PostPosted: Fri, 12th Mar 2021 17:10    Post subject:
Nalo wrote:
I can't believe all the negative attention serial killers get. Most people never met a serial killer.

*Raises hand* ME ME! I was in prison, remember? I met one.
So so far, 1 person here on the forums has met one of them. And still zero for meeting, or even knowing someone that met a militant aggressive trans that ruined their life.
(Being facetious here for the sake of absurdity of comparison too)

And as couleur pointed out, the differences in the importance is the part being overlooked.
I've never met a poral bear trapper, or someone that yodels for a living. Doesn't mean they dont exist. BUT the importance and severity of the impact of them existing to society as a problem for all is different than that of a serial killers.

Just because a type of person is rare, is not the only comparison metric to gauge if they are a legitimate danger to others in general or not.


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