I have a problem, I haven't noticed it until now when I was going to use my cintiq on vista, there was no nView tray icon to be found. I searched on google, and what little I could find suggested that this did not exist for vista. But that must be bullshit, right?
I often play Left 4 Dead split screen on the PC with a friend, so we use a vertical screen mode, so that he can play on the TV and I on the monitor. But since there's no tray icon, I couldn't find where to do it. Those options, are NO where to be found in the nvidia control panel either, I've checked everything there... Plus, I have no idea how to get the tray icon. Was so easy to switch screen modes with it.
Anyone know what might be up? I'm using the same driver I used for XP (but the vista version obviously), the newest official one (not beta).
u mean dual view?
control panel/set up multiple displays
Since you guys praise Vista so much, I decided to install Vista 64 ultimate with SP1. I must admit I have never experienced a weirder "fresh install".
First of all, I had no problems whatsoever in installing and activating it. But I did have some very strange and unexplained behaviours.
For example: there is 2 critical updates that it refuses to install. I have tried maybe 5 times now - they fail every time. I even downloaded them directly from microsoft manually, but still the same.
I have set it so that I am automatically logged in when it boots up. This worked the first 2 times. Now it wants me to type in my password, and if I wait a few seconds - I can hear the logon sound "in the background" eventhough I have not yet typed anything.
As far as I know, it is impossible. You can always hit CTRL+Shift+Esc and get the task manager. Personally, I'm not bothered with it, because it was like that in 2000, as well as in XP, when the interactive logon (or however they called it) was off.
Had a third strike on copyrighted material upload, and, apparently, according to international law, they have to disable the account and block me from creating a new account for ever. My new account is LeoNatan25. No vids yet.
Myeah, people like to bitch about Vista but I honestly never had problems with it. But then again I knew how to disable all the annoyingly redundant security checks and confirmations (Do you want to delete this? Are you sure? Absolutely and for keeps? Oh, you need admin rights lol!), which must've pissed the hell out of people who can use computers but lack the deep know-how to fiddle with the inner workings of their OS.
Really should get it Glottis and test it out for yourself. It seems to have much better memory management then vista did along with some other changes.
Really should get it Glottis and test it out for yourself. It seems to have much better memory management then vista did along with some other changes.
Recommend getting the RC.
I have both Vista and Win7 and I did tons of testing and comparison between the two. Win7 isn't any faster, it doesn't use less RAM, it doesn't take faster to boot. The only slightly better thing in Win7 is that it manages RAM better if you got only 1GB of it (or so people claim). But on 4GB+ RAM systems Win7 isn't any faster than Vista.
And here are some numbers from pretty long testing on my system:
Vista x64 SP2 after fresh install: HDD usage 12GB, idle RAM usage 1GB, boot time same as Win7, game performance same as Win7.
Win7 x64 RC after fresh install: HDD usage 12GB, idle RAM usage 1GB, boot time same as Vista, game performance same as Vista (some games had some glitches due to drivers still not perfect).
Win7 is 99% rebranded Vista for people who had shit computers when Vista initially came out making their opinion about Vista forever tainted. And if Vista is so shit, like so many ignorant people claim, then why is Win7 almost entirely built on Vista? Just sit back and think for a moment before bashing Vista and praising Win7 out of the blue.
Personally when I first tried Vista it was before all the service packs - so my opinion is basing Vista as it was released once it went gold and hit retail shelves. I had nothing but problems playing my games like Battlefield 2 - my aiming reticule was off center and took a huge performance hit - it was unplayable...
I understand SP2 might make Vista a lot better but we all know it's still the same memory hog and the more updates it takes to fix an operating system is the slower it gets, unless you slipstream those service packs onto a new installation disc...
Hey I don't know what I'm talking about but I sure as hell know Windows 7 is ready enough to replace Vista right out of beta! Maybe that is a little over exaggerated but you get my point...
I seriously cannot wait to get my hands on the final product - I will gladly buy a quality product anyday
Windows 7 even installs faster than Vista - another plus...
Ci2e, read my post above please where I compared side by side Vista to Win7. I'm sorry to say but you are very misinformed about Vista. You tried it out briefly on your old computer (I assume you upgraded it now after trying Vista more than 2 years ago) and that in no way should represent the currant performance of Vista vs Win7.
Vista and Win7 12GB usage after "pretty long testing" - LoL. You either have not been installing anything on them. Perhaps you installed them and shut the machine down for 20 days? That doesn't count as "pretty long testing". Otherwise you'd have at least 6GB only in the winsxs folder.
Yeah I read it dude - and your right it was more than 2 years ago and I have upgraded since then but, like you said Windows 7 manages memory better than Vista and to me that makes all the difference...
I've only had Windows 7 for a few days now and it is just like Vista but improved in many more ways than just memory management. Such as the taskbar only showing icons of the software you have open instead of a smaller icon and a title for that task...
So yeah even though 7 is just an improved Vista doesn't mean you should sit there and claim Vista is better than 7. That's no reason to knock a really stable OS right out of beta...
I wish Blizzard Entertainment was like Microsoft and released a release candidate for StarCraft II
Vista and Win7 12GB usage after "pretty long testing" - LoL. You either have not been installing anything on them. Perhaps you installed them and shut the machine down for 20 days? That doesn't count as "pretty long testing". Otherwise you'd have at least 6GB only in the winsxs folder.
Vista and Win7 12GB usage after "pretty long testing" - LoL. You either have not been installing anything on them. Perhaps you installed them and shut the machine down for 20 days? That doesn't count as "pretty long testing". Otherwise you'd have at least 6GB only in the winsxs folder.
READING is the key to success.
True!
On a side note how do you have 2 operating systems using the exact same amount of hard drive space?
Your comparing both versions of the 64-bit flavors but are you comparing Vista SP3 with Windows 7 or are you comparing bare bones Vista with Windows 7?
We all know that Windows 7 is built off of Windows Vista and Microsoft would be stupid not to build on top of what they already have, so the latest build of Windows 7 is basically Vista SP3 + various improvements to the user-interface and kernel...
We could debate this till were blue in the face but everyone wants something with new bells and whistles so even though everyone that tested Vista and had nothing but problems with it - will test out Windows 7 and find that it has improved immensely - the only benefit to those people (like me) is they get a fresh experience without all the problems with all the improvements Microsoft has implemented...
I am running Windows 7 as my primary OS right now and I plan to until next March when the auto-shutdowns will take place if there isn't a workaround available...
It just seems to me that Microsoft actually listened to people this time especially on the user interface side of things - like the systray hiding and showing what you want was always a headache because the option wouldn't actually look like it saved til you hit 'ok' and actually went back to check that your changes was made. Windows 7 on the other hand includes an option to always show all things running in the systray so you never have to guess what is running and kind of hiding, I really like it - it's simpler and it allows everyone to be a little more lazy --
So in 50 years from now I expect to be able to do more with less effort and enjoy the benefits no matter where I might be all while gaining weight (/me reminds himself to exercise)...
Vista and Win7 12GB usage after "pretty long testing" - LoL. You either have not been installing anything on them. Perhaps you installed them and shut the machine down for 20 days? That doesn't count as "pretty long testing". Otherwise you'd have at least 6GB only in the winsxs folder.
You want to post BS facts, be prepared to be called upon them. Anyone can pull numbers out of their asses, it takes some experience to pull them correctly. Measuring disk usage for Vista and 7 (especially, after "pretty long testing") is impossible, as the installations continuously grows, and is dependent on the quantity and type of installed applications, updates and drivers. My WinSxS folder, 4 months after installation, is 12GB. It is especially larger on 64bit versions of Windows because it has both 32bit and 64bit versions to keep.
Why do you try so hard to fail? I said WINDOWS folder of both OS'es after a fresh install is 12GB. Obviously it gets bigger over time. And way to go with focusing solely on WinSxS, the folder that acts the same in both Vista and Win7 in a "why Win7 is better than Vista" argument.
I'm not sure about that. In my Windows 7 testing, that folder has grown much faster in 7 than in Vista. Not sure why yet, not much info on the net either. Could be because there are more DLLs. This is an issue that MS doesn't like in the spotlight. And it is actually "why Vista is better than Win7" in that case, isn't it?
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Google for the error code given to you during install. It could be some conflict.
Otherwise you'd have at least 6GB only in the winsxs folder.
