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 Posted: Sun, 12th Oct 2014 09:45 Post subject: question about steam gifts/russian/row etc |
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I've been getting 2-3 russian gifts this last month, saving quite a few bucks. I remember lolozaur talking about this in another thread (thanks) but now i'm a bit curious.
I know ROW is "rest of the world", but if you don't care about multiplayer?
If you recieve a russian gift, you can ALWAYS use a russian vpn to activate the game, after that the game works like normal right? The reason i'm asking this is because is there ever an instance where a trader can fool you and you're forced to use a russian vpn everytime you play the game? I don't play russian games on multiplayer, only single player.
Thanks
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| Posted: Sun, 12th Oct 2014 10:41 Post subject: |
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- Get the EnhancedSteam plugin: http://www.enhancedsteam.com
- Then you go to the store page of the game and you should see a button on the right side to "View in Steam Database"
- It will open the correct appID on that page then
- Go to the "packages" tab
- If you see some package with RU in brackets, click on it to see restrictions
- Example: https://steamdb.info/app/292120/subs/
- Scrolling down you see "onlyallowrunincountries". Which means you will need a VPN every time you want to play that game
And AFAIK every gift with region restrictions is now marked in red writing on the gifts decription
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| Posted: Sun, 12th Oct 2014 11:48 Post subject: |
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| Bob Barnsen wrote: |
- If you see some package with RU in brackets, click on it to see restrictions
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This is not necessarily the case. Now some RU versions of a game that are region locked for running don't even include the "RU" in the name or description and in many cases those fields are identical to the ROW versions.
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| Posted: Sun, 12th Oct 2014 11:54 Post subject: |
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| 4treyu wrote: | | Bob Barnsen wrote: |
- If you see some package with RU in brackets, click on it to see restrictions
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This is not necessarily the case. Now some RU versions of a game that are region locked for running don't even include the "RU" in the name or description and in many cases those fields are identical to the ROW versions. |
Examples?
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| Posted: Sun, 12th Oct 2014 12:00 Post subject: |
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That's only true if the game is locked with the Crossregiontradingandgifting= no tag. I wouldn't mess with VPN, it's against Steam's TOS.
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| Posted: Sun, 12th Oct 2014 12:02 Post subject: |
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I've VPN activated games for years without any problems, it's perfectly safe.
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| Posted: Sun, 12th Oct 2014 12:02 Post subject: |
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Wouldn't risk it with a pre-order where you can't know for sure before it's released and people have tested
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| Posted: Sun, 12th Oct 2014 12:35 Post subject: |
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@nforules
| Quote: | This is what it says on The Evil Within (RU)
onlyallowrunincountries
AM AZ BY GE KZ KG MD RU TJ TM UZ UA |
| Quote: | | billingtype CD Key |
I think it's a retail RU CD key.Getting RU CD keys is considerably cheaper than buying games from steam store. They almost all have onlyallowrunincountries enabled.
@Drowning_witch
AFAIK RU steam gifts only need VPN activation and then they play just fine. However, Ru CD keys are generally fully locked.
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| Posted: Sun, 12th Oct 2014 12:53 Post subject: |
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| nforules wrote: |
If you recieve a russian gift, you can ALWAYS use a russian vpn to activate the game, after that the game works like normal right? |
It works only for gifts that have no "onlyallowrunin" flag.
Also, keep in mind this is a bannable offense. Don't listen do "I was using ru gifts for years and nothing!!!11one". The fact it did not happen to someone in particular does not mean it won't happen to you. I've seen quite a few people over a year who got games removed or account disabled. Hell, even in Steam thread some humper mentioned his acc was disabled due to many cheap steam gifts. He got lucky they removed the lock, but keep in mind that steam has NO FUCKIGN APPEALS AT ALL so you may not be so lucky.
In short, it is as a safe as g2a keys or any other suspicions shit. On your own risk.
My personal opinion - don't do that. Ever.
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| Posted: Sun, 12th Oct 2014 13:00 Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | many cheap steam gifts. |
Did he have them in his library or inventory ready to be resold?
I wonder under what circumstances others got banned. Quite often these guys withhold certain facts. 
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| Posted: Sun, 12th Oct 2014 13:03 Post subject: |
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| madness wrote: | | 4treyu wrote: | | Bob Barnsen wrote: |
- If you see some package with RU in brackets, click on it to see restrictions
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This is not necessarily the case. Now some RU versions of a game that are region locked for running don't even include the "RU" in the name or description and in many cases those fields are identical to the ROW versions. |
Examples? |
Assassin's Creed Unity
No RU tag and the shit is run-locked.
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| Posted: Sun, 12th Oct 2014 13:09 Post subject: |
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i think you can on many, dont really know exactly, check csrin
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| Posted: Sun, 12th Oct 2014 13:10 Post subject: |
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Well, if you isodemo most of the singpleplayers and buy them later on sale, you probably can manage your resources well enough to buy multiplayers games you really want and will be playing by full price (or from gmg with usual 20% off).
That being said - how often to you buy multiplayer games recently which you are 100% sure will be playing a lot? Last MP game I bought full price was L4D2 :p
Not even mentioning that most mp shit nowadays either f2p or MMO. Meh.
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| Posted: Sun, 12th Oct 2014 13:44 Post subject: |
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| riptide77 wrote: | | That's only true if the game is locked with the Crossregiontradingandgifting= no tag. I wouldn't mess with VPN, it's against Steam's TOS. |
Yes i've seen their updated TOS, but i've been using VPN for years to play games early, never to buy directly from the steam store. Also sometimes I use VPN to activate russian gifts.
| Drowning_witch wrote: | | nforules wrote: |
This is what it says on The Evil Within (RU)
onlyallowrunincountries
AM AZ BY GE KZ KG MD RU TJ TM UZ UA
So according to that page I'd need a VPN everytime the game was running. Hmm but the trader claims otherwise
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You are doing something wrong, as that info is incorrect.
I bought ru evil within steam gift, activated via VPN, and its got row subid.
https://steamdb.info/sub/35415/
the way I do it without any browser extensions, simply go to steamprices.com, open the page of the russian store for the game, put mouse over the add to cart button, and the bottom left of the browser tells you the subid. |
Thanks for the update, will check back to steamprices when their maintenance is done.
| h0rnyfavn wrote: | @nforules
| Quote: | This is what it says on The Evil Within (RU)
onlyallowrunincountries
AM AZ BY GE KZ KG MD RU TJ TM UZ UA |
| Quote: | | billingtype CD Key |
I think it's a retail RU CD key.Getting RU CD keys is considerably cheaper than buying games from steam store. They almost all have onlyallowrunincountries enabled.
@Drowning_witch
AFAIK RU steam gifts only need VPN activation and then they play just fine. However, Ru CD keys are generally fully locked. |
Yeah it was a russian gift i'm after.
| Kein wrote: | | nforules wrote: |
If you recieve a russian gift, you can ALWAYS use a russian vpn to activate the game, after that the game works like normal right? |
It works only for gifts that have no "onlyallowrunin" flag.
Also, keep in mind this is a bannable offense. Don't listen do "I was using ru gifts for years and nothing!!!11one". The fact it did not happen to someone in particular does not mean it won't happen to you. I've seen quite a few people over a year who got games removed or account disabled. Hell, even in Steam thread some humper mentioned his acc was disabled due to many cheap steam gifts. He got lucky they removed the lock, but keep in mind that steam has NO FUCKIGN APPEALS AT ALL so you may not be so lucky.
In short, it is as a safe as g2a keys or any other suspicions shit. On your own risk.
My personal opinion - don't do that. Ever. |
I've purchased games from g2a in the past, same goes for cjs cd keys. Yes i'm aware of using a VPN to circumvent region is against their TOS, but if you google for suspended/locked accounts i've found there's usually more to the story. Hell i've had mw3 for years and it's clearly marked as russian copy. I have no problems with steam removing mw3 or any other cod since they are garbage, getting the entire account locked however is a diff story.
Can you link me to users getting locked down for using vpn to activate a game?
Thanks for the fair warning though, i'll have to consider this carefully.
lolozaur, I can't be arsed with pirated copies anymore, the constant patching/cracking compared to steam is not worth it. Especially since I don't buy that many games. I prefer to have my games patched on auto and no hassle. Of course sometimes I use a pirated version as a demo to control future purchases.
Steam TOS
http://store.steampowered.com/subscriber_agreement/
| Quote: | | You agree that you will not use IP proxying or other methods to disguise the place of your residence, whether to circumvent geographical restrictions on game content, to purchase at pricing not applicable to your geography, or for any other purpose. If you do this, we may terminate your access to your Account. |
I don't know if VALVE views russian gifts vpn activated the same way vs using vpn to play game early.
But i've never found actual proof of users getting banned/locked for these reasons alone.
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| Posted: Sun, 12th Oct 2014 13:50 Post subject: |
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| nforules wrote: |
Thanks for the update, will check back to steamprices when their maintenance is done.
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I've checked before my last post. RU gifts still have the same subid as row, so there is no need for VPN post activation.
If you want to use my russian guy, PM me and I will send you his steam profile.
He will buy directly from store the subid
https://steamdb.info/sub/35415/
The only reason you would get banned for VPN activation is if you are on their radar for other things and they go poking around your account looking for things to get you for.
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| Posted: Mon, 13th Oct 2014 18:29 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Mon, 13th Oct 2014 19:07 Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Yes, but come on that's just 1 guy. |
And?
You expect me to log and write down on A4 paper list all people I encountered during the year or two who got issues with Steam support because of cheap russian gifts? Really?
I could spend few hours or a day to dig it out and google for actual cases if you pay me for this wasted time, sure. But I'm not gong to waste my time looking for evidence with links just to "prove" my post on [near]-warez forum, lel.
I'm speaking from my experience. You asked for opinion - you've got it. The rest is up to you, it is your account and your money you put into it. And your right to fuck it up.
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| Posted: Mon, 13th Oct 2014 21:33 Post subject: |
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My suggestion - only trade for cheap games from cheap regions if the game (on steam) has no region lock and not bought via glitch. Like Rust, fro example. It has the game subid for every region. Such kind of games are more or less "okay".
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Neon
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| Posted: Mon, 13th Oct 2014 23:00 Post subject: |
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as long as you dont use a vpn to buy it cheaper directly from the steamstore there wont be any problem at all.
but for me i would say im just to lazy to connect every time with a vpn just in order to play one game. one time activation is no problem, did it a few times. but waaaaay to annoying to start vpn everytime to play a special single game. not worth saving the money imo
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| Posted: Tue, 14th Oct 2014 10:12 Post subject: |
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Is there anyway I can get Borderlands Pre-Sequel? Is this RU only as it's £15 via that, if someone if Russia gifted it?
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