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Invasor
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 Posted: Mon, 24th Apr 2017 22:40 Post subject: filling tax forms (IRS) |
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Just finished mine, it was a nightmare because I lost my records from last year so I had to type a lot of crap again...
How does this shit works in your country?
'Cause I have to declare everything and then the government software does the calculation for how much I pay or receive, but I REALLY think they should do that automatically without any declaration necessary, from banking information they know everything about my life anyway... IRS is the only thing where the creditor/service provider makes the debtor/customer calculate the fucking bill, it's ridiculous. If they want me to pay taxes (which, to an extent, I agree that it is fair) they should charge me and show the receipt, not make me do all the work... and if I make a mistake doing THEIR work I pay a fucking fine or even go to jail. AWESOME.
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| Posted: Mon, 24th Apr 2017 22:56 Post subject: |
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Log in, check the balance, accept and then leave the site. Done!
Unless you have other crap you want to fill in on your tax returns and shit (for example if you had to drive to work etc.). Easy peasy, takes usually about 15 minutes to do. 
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Invasor
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| Posted: Mon, 24th Apr 2017 23:11 Post subject: |
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sanchin
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| Posted: Mon, 24th Apr 2017 23:22 Post subject: |
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In Poland, since last year, if you have the most common and obvious case, with no deductions / relieves it can also be done automatically and you only verify and submit.
In other cases (like mine) - manual filling of a self-calculating form, basically rewriting data from the form I get from my employer + the most tedious stuff - foreign stock.
I get batches of company stock from US from time to time, and when calculating the tax, I have to check the stock value at that date, average exchange rate of USD/PLN, calculate the total value in PLN, then the required tax, then - tax already paid in US, converted to PLN on proper days, and then finally - write the friggin difference down in the form. Oh, one more - dividends, same stuff with exchange rates...
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TSR69
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| Posted: Tue, 25th Apr 2017 10:08 Post subject: |
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I am not doing any taxes.
Formerly known as iconized
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Invasor
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| Posted: Tue, 25th Apr 2017 16:52 Post subject: |
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| sanchin wrote: | In Poland, since last year, if you have the most common and obvious case, with no deductions / relieves it can also be done automatically and you only verify and submit.
In other cases (like mine) - manual filling of a self-calculating form, basically rewriting data from the form I get from my employer + the most tedious stuff - foreign stock.
I get batches of company stock from US from time to time, and when calculating the tax, I have to check the stock value at that date, average exchange rate of USD/PLN, calculate the total value in PLN, then the required tax, then - tax already paid in US, converted to PLN on proper days, and then finally - write the friggin difference down in the form. Oh, one more - dividends, same stuff with exchange rates... |
More or less what I have to do 
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sanchin
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| Posted: Tue, 25th Apr 2017 17:55 Post subject: |
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Well, god bless working in an IT company (and being a programmer myself) with basically 150 people in the same situation. Someone finally broke down and reverse-engineered our shares broker's page and API, and wrote a script in JS (publicly available in github, so it's been checked by many other, me including, that it is completely client-side, not storing or sending anything anywhere), that collects all the required data and prints it out in nice tables (if anyone wants to check them manually) plus the calculated tax values. It even gets proper exchange rates from the national bank's page/api.
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tonizito
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| Posted: Tue, 25th Apr 2017 19:53 Post subject: |
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This year was the first time there was an "auto" option for it over here.
And just in time too, because the manual option still runs on java which was dropped from both chrome and firefox not too long ago 
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Invasor
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| Posted: Tue, 25th Apr 2017 20:49 Post subject: |
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Estonia has a simple solution for most people - our IRS organization presents you the data it has. If its correct, you just confirm it and that's it.
We do have do separately fill in profit from stocks etc and that's a pain if yo haven't done it before. Thankfully you only pay taxes for profit.
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deelix
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| Posted: Tue, 25th Apr 2017 20:52 Post subject: |
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| sanchin wrote: | In Poland, since last year, if you have the most common and obvious case, with no deductions / relieves it can also be done automatically and you only verify and submit.
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Since last year??? We have had that for 10 years at least.
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sanchin
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