Gemini Man (Will Smith, Clive Owen | Ang Lee) [R]
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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Apr 2019 17:50    Post subject: Gemini Man (Will Smith, Clive Owen | Ang Lee) [R]


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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Apr 2019 18:07    Post subject:
lets make a movie but save some money on the cgi effects, why not.
the bike in the beginning and this face, wow. man this will be a funny movie.
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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Apr 2019 18:10    Post subject:
Great, another creepy CGI face.


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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Apr 2019 21:04    Post subject:
20 years of development hell - gonna be a hit.


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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Apr 2019 23:34    Post subject:
Oh, Fresh Prince and Will Smith in the same movie.


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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Apr 2019 23:42    Post subject:
Dayum, imagine making (producing/directing) this film thinking "surely the VFX companies will deliver" and footage starts coming in and it looks as terri-shit as it does. Feel bad for the people who were conned to put their money in this. Razz


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Too much Will Smith in this Deepfake movie Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu, 25th Jul 2019 05:44    Post subject:
Another vfx studio to close its door because of Ang lee


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PostPosted: Thu, 25th Jul 2019 06:12    Post subject:
"Phenomenal experience for an audience" Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat, 27th Jul 2019 20:08    Post subject:
David Benioff is one of the writers Pffchh



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Wtf is that? Who directed this? These bike attacks would be impossible for a VFX studio to turn into something realistic-looking. And with the extra work+fake of the Deepfake face. But this studio failed harder than most would, I assume.

Will Smith has had some good roles and a respectable career, why is he doing this to himself?!
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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Sep 2019 00:54    Post subject:
Ang Lee is a respectable director. This movie was shot at 120 fps, so I assume some of the weirdness comes from that.


TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"

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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Sep 2019 00:58    Post subject:
The shitty bike gymnastics and ragdolling bodies seemed very unrealistic. Real world physics don't work like that. Did you watch the last video?
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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Sep 2019 08:12    Post subject:
consolitis wrote:
Ang Lee is a respectable director. This movie was shot at 120 fps, so I assume some of the weirdness comes from that.


TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"

~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Sep 2019 10:42    Post subject:
He is right though, it looks very bad.
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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Sep 2019 14:47    Post subject:
He's wrong though. It looks exactly like a Ang Lee action movie.


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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Sep 2019 15:18    Post subject:
Tiger and Dragon was interesting. I didn't watch any of his other stuff though. Maybe just the trailers were looking too pretentious?


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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Sep 2019 20:43    Post subject:
Mister_s wrote:
He is right though, it looks very bad.


I don't know how to make it more clear it looks bad to me as well, I'm just offering an explanation on how that happened.


TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"

~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Sep 2019 23:25    Post subject:
I watched a trailer with an action scene with unrealistic physics and bad VFX on the faces on Youtube at simple 720p @ 24fps. And you say that it looks bad because it was shot at 120fps?

I don't understand. Also, "it is an Ang Lee movie, he is respectable" is not an argument for why it looks like cheap shit.
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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Sep 2019 23:37    Post subject:
Bad VFX on the faces = that's how I felt with digital/deaged characters in other films, it's not exclusive to this film. Tarkin in Rogue One? Laughing

Unrealistic physics = I postulate it is a result of being animated for 120 fps.

"Youtube at simple 720p @ 24fps"

It hasn't originated as 24 so moot argument.

"Ang Lee is a respectable director" = "this isn't some no-name shit, let's see if we can explain what happened"

That's about it. I have no idea if I'm right, but that's what comes to my mind when I try to explain the result.

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“You have to understand there is no motion blur,” said producer Jerry Bruckheimer. “When you see an action sequence in 24 frames there is motion blur. This is real. What you’re looking at is real life. And it takes you a few minutes to get into it [but], once you’re into it, it’s immersive.” In other words, for the visual effects team, “There’s nowhere to hide,” added Williams.


That's for the original, 120 fps, footage, but who knows the decisions taken to film/animate at 120 how they affect the 24 version.


TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"

~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Sep 2019 23:52    Post subject:
Ang Lee respectable director? Have you guys seen Hulk?
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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Sep 2019 05:30    Post subject:
Al Pacino a respectable actor?! Have you guys seen Jack and Jill?!

Eric Bana hulk was good.
Not awful.
Not great.
Just good.

This movie looks to have impossible physics action like many John woo movies. And action Ang Lee is sort of known for when he steps away from drama.


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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Sep 2019 06:53    Post subject:
Lee's Hulk is the best so far for me. Life of Pi and Crouching Tiger are among favorites too.


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PostPosted: Thu, 10th Oct 2019 09:04    Post subject:
Hmm, thinking this might be a big turd of a film judging on how much they are pushing the advertising on this on all the local radio stations etc..
Tends to happen with all turd films :s
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PostPosted: Thu, 10th Oct 2019 22:41    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Thu, 10th Oct 2019 23:47    Post subject:
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/gemini_man_2019

29%.

Meh, HFR needs a bloody good (or at least bloody popular) film to get audiences' butts in the theaters if they want the technology to succeed.


TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"

~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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