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PostPosted: Thu, 29th Sep 2016 17:14    Post subject: Bethesda thread
There's no real existing general thread, this'll do:



That's from Chesko's Patreon page (creator of Frostfall and some other amazing mods). Apparently mod creators can no longer have patreon pages dedicated to making mods... or something. Not sure what it's about yet, but it sounds like more bullshit.

https://www.patreon.com/Chesko/

He was making a whole $345 per month.
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PostPosted: Thu, 29th Sep 2016 17:16    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Thu, 29th Sep 2016 17:26    Post subject:
Read the text two times, but still have no real clue what the dude his message is.


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PostPosted: Thu, 29th Sep 2016 17:29    Post subject:
Bob Barnsen wrote:
Read the text two times, but still have no real clue what the dude his message is.

He cannot officially use the Patreon to make money for modding.

But if you read between the lines he basically says that everything will be the same. It's just that he will be more discreet and not say outright that the people pay for the mods. Obviously Bethesda does not like people making profit from their games, even if they improve uppon them and keep the community going.

Retards.
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PostPosted: Thu, 29th Sep 2016 17:35    Post subject:
Bethesda sucks. News at 13:37!
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PostPosted: Thu, 29th Sep 2016 17:40    Post subject:
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Meh, too much drama for me.
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PostPosted: Thu, 29th Sep 2016 17:47    Post subject:
It's just donations Bethy... just let them. It's something you should have been doing back when you wanted paid mods... but no Bethy you wanted it all! Bethy you're a cunt!

The mod creator does it in a nice way as well. Not locking away early versions behind a paywall. Even has one time donations set up Perfect example of how people should run donations.


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PostPosted: Wed, 26th Oct 2016 01:22    Post subject:
Getting cold feet about the overhyped button-awesome Dishonored 2 and the simple facelift of Skyrim I see Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed, 26th Oct 2016 06:00    Post subject:
They did the same for Doom and that turned out alright. Pre-ordering / buying day one is usually for chumps anyway, as the vast majority of game reviewers are not to be trusted - only peer reviews matter.
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PostPosted: Wed, 26th Oct 2016 10:56    Post subject:
so Bethesda want modders to not make money
but they are ok with themselves making money, by stealing mods into game quests? Mad


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PostPosted: Wed, 26th Oct 2016 20:40    Post subject:
Clearly gamejournos should be ENTITLED to early review copies.

First good thing Bethesda has done since Morrowind is make RPS cry about how supposedly "anti-consumer" it is that they won't be getting earlier review copies. Fucking hypocritical idiots.
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PostPosted: Wed, 26th Oct 2016 20:45    Post subject:
Ehhhh they have a point this time.
Mostly because bethesda's statement was fucking ridiculous... “everyone, including those in the media, to experience our games at the same time” after we've seen tons of videos from folks on youtube/twitch that have the game already for a while, fuck off bethesda Laughing


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Pre-ordering / buying day one is usually for chumps anyway, as the vast majority of game reviewers are not to be trusted - only peer reviews matter.
This.
Unless you prehurrdurr it for a really cheap price/glitch Very Happy


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PostPosted: Thu, 27th Oct 2016 00:43    Post subject:
They should choke to death with their blatant idiotic way of handling things like this. Its fucking disgusting.


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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Dec 2016 19:39    Post subject:
Bethesda's Todd Howard To Be Inducted Into The AIAS Hall Of Fame
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The Academy of Interactive Arts & Sciences (AIAS) is inducting Bethesda Game Studios game director and executive producer Todd Howard to the organization's Hall of Fame for his work though the years on the The Elder Scrolls and Fallout franchises.

The induction ceremony takes place during the D.I.C.E. awards on Thursday, February 23.

"I know that many of us in the industry have spent countless hours enthralled in the vast, open worlds that Todd has created," said Mike Fischer, AIAS president. "He's made us all reconsider the player-game relationship and extended the storytelling possibilities of our medium. We look forward to honoring Todd and celebrating his achievements and contributions to the video games industry."

Past inductees include Hideo Kojima, John Carmack, Sid Meier, and Will Wright.

http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2016/12/14/bethesdas-todd-howard-to-be-inducted-into-the-aias-hall-of-fame.aspx


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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Dec 2016 19:57    Post subject:
Todd the postcard seller.


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PostPosted: Mon, 9th Jan 2017 23:32    Post subject:
Almost a rearpost-y non-news, but Razz : http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/169219-Bethesda-Says-No-More-Remasters-in-the-Elder-Scrolls-Series

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In an interview with Official Xbox Magazine UK (posted online by GamesRadar, Bethesda vice president Pete Hines explained why Dishonored and Skyrim got remasters, and why the rest of the Elder Scrolls games probably won't.

Hines said that Dishonored "was a unique case where it was a new IP at the very end of the last generation of consoles. So remastering it and bringing it to this gen wasn't a ton of work and it made a lot of sense given the proximity of those two.

Skyrim was more about the work that Bethesda Game Studios had done in the early days of getting ready for Fallout 4 on this generation of consoles-moving the Skyrim engine and doing some work to run it on this generation of consoles just to see how it worked, and so forth, before they started doing all their Fallout stuff. It's the most recent thing they did."

Hines went on to point out that Bethesda generally doesn't want to spend the amount of time that sort of remaster would entail on old content. "But these things take time, it takes effort and manpower. Generally speaking, our approach has usually been that instead of spending all this time on a thing we've already made, why don't we instead spend that effort on something new, or on the next version of that thing?"
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PostPosted: Mon, 9th Jan 2017 23:45    Post subject:
That's usually how they do it, re-doing most of the content for each main installment along with varying degrees of code changes to the underlying engine as needed.

Thus why every TES game has it's own take on how races look and armor and weapon designs or creatures.

Results vary a bit of course. Very Happy








Though yeah Oblivion kinda "failed" far as races were concerned but eh early Facegen tech, modders had a bit more time to work with it and eventually got some pretty OK results even with TES4: Oblivion. Razz


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And getting back on track I'd like to see a remaster of Morrowind and some of the others (Doubt Daggerfall or Arena would be easy without RNG'ing the entire thing though.) but more faithful to the original instead of keeping the simplified mechanics that Oblivion and Skyrim relied a lot on.

Character attributes - even differing between male and female genders. - actual skills for the separate weapon categories, less broken but still extensive alchemy and spell creation and while dialogue could be improved on it would be unfortunate if it was reduced to accommodate limitations such as only having X lines of text per dialog or only X amount of topics per character.

Fleshing out House Dagoth might also be a option instead of it just trailing off and disappearing as you near the end of the game, also keep the faction rivalries and having to choose which of the three great houses to support instead of being able to join all.
(Progressing in one faction reducing your popularity for rival ones.)

Possibly even bringing the Twin Lamps faction and some other (House Dagoth?) as more active groups?

And all that other stuff, diseases and such being actual problems - although vanilla Morrowind still toned that down compared to Arena or Daggerfall. - and well a lot of stuff I guess, probably forgot a lot of things. (Been a while since I played the game though.)


Though yeah this would require remaking pretty much the entire game besides keeping the writing so quite a bit of work and if Beth wants to work on newer installments rather than revisiting the older ones well I would like to eventually see some of the more exotic provinces in full such as Black Marsh or Summerset Isle. Very Happy
(Akavir said by pretty much every TES fan I guess heh though I doubt that's coming anytime soon even for the MMO Elder Scrolls game.)

EDIT: Oh and fuck walling in the larger cities and bring back levitate.
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PostPosted: Tue, 17th Jan 2017 06:40    Post subject:
Bethesda's Parent Company Zenimax Comments on Lawsuit Against Facebook, Oculus
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Zenimax has issued a statement the day before Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg is due to testify in court in the intellectual property case against his company.

Zenimax said it and id Software, the company behind Doom, "welcome the opportunity" to present what it claims is "substantial evidence" against Facebook and Oculus in the case.

The full statement provided to IGN by a Zenimax representative is below:
"With the start of the trial of our case in Federal District Court in Dallas against Defendants Facebook, Oculus and its management, ZeniMax and id Software welcome the opportunity to present substantial evidence of the Defendants' misappropriation of our Virtual Reality (VR) intellectual property. That evidence includes the theft of trade secrets and highly confidential information, including computer code. ZeniMax will also present evidence of the Defendants' intentional destruction of evidence to cover up their wrongdoing. ZeniMax and id Software are the visionary developers of breakthrough VR technology, and look forward to the vindication of our claims."

Zenimax accuses Oculus of stealing trade secrets, "highly confidential information," such as computer code, and a charge of intentionally covering up alleged wrongdoing by destroying evidence.

The ZeniMax case against Oculus was originally filed in 2014. In August 2016, it was updated to include Oculus chief technology officer John Carmack and CEO Brendan Iribe as defendants. Carmack, who left id Software in 2013, is accused of copying documents belonging to Zenimax to a USB thumb drive.

It also accuses Carmack of returning to Zenimax after joining Oculus and taking a tool for working on virtual reality. After the case was filed, Carmack issued a statement denying the allegations against him, saying Oculus uses none of the code he wrote while at ZeniMax. He added while the original code he wrote belongs to Zenimax, "they don't own VR."

Mark Zuckerberg will take the stand to answer questions about Facebook's acquisition of Oculus. Oculus founder Palmer Luckey is set to take the stand later in the week.

According to VentureBeat, Facebook claims the lawsuit is motivated by Zenimax having passed on Oculus before it was acquired by the social media giant.

Zenimax seeks $2 billion USD in damages, the same amount Facebook paid to acquire Oculus in the first place.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2017/01/16/bethesdas-parent-company-comments-on-lawsuit-against-facebook-oculus




Two scammer companies fighting it out.


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PostPosted: Tue, 17th Jan 2017 06:48    Post subject:
Thanks for reminding me, bobsen, also read this earlier:

http://uploadvr.com/john-carmack-oculus-zenimax-oath/
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Among the exchanges our ears in the room overheard, he explained in open court what source code is and that ‘BFG’ stands for ‘Big Fucking Gun.’ In some instances his back and forth during questioning became relatively heated, with ZeniMax attorney Anthony Sammi pressing for answers about how Carmack handled certain computer equipment. One line of questioning asked whether Carmack knew about a “secret meeting” in a hotel room with Oculus co-founders Nate Mitchell and Palmer Luckey, to which Carmack responded “No I didn’t, it was a secret.” A MacBook was brought up during questioning as well, with the lawyer asking why it was never wiped, with Carmack responding: “I am not a Mac user unless under duress.”


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PostPosted: Tue, 17th Jan 2017 06:49    Post subject:
Those answers by Carmack.
LOL


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PostPosted: Tue, 17th Jan 2017 08:32    Post subject:
Is there any video of this?


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PostPosted: Tue, 17th Jan 2017 13:24    Post subject:
tonizito wrote:
Thanks for reminding me, bobsen, also read this earlier:

http://uploadvr.com/john-carmack-oculus-zenimax-oath/
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Among the exchanges our ears in the room overheard, he explained in open court what source code is and that ‘BFG’ stands for ‘Big Fucking Gun.’ In some instances his back and forth during questioning became relatively heated, with ZeniMax attorney Anthony Sammi pressing for answers about how Carmack handled certain computer equipment. One line of questioning asked whether Carmack knew about a “secret meeting” in a hotel room with Oculus co-founders Nate Mitchell and Palmer Luckey, to which Carmack responded “No I didn’t, it was a secret.” A MacBook was brought up during questioning as well, with the lawyer asking why it was never wiped, with Carmack responding: “I am not a Mac user unless under duress.”


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PostPosted: Tue, 17th Jan 2017 14:44    Post subject:
Mr. Green

Carmack deserves a few beers for those answers. Seeing Facebook pitted against Zenimax is beyond entertaining. A crap company based on hot air, but with a lot of money to burn and a company that was founded by lawyers, hedge funders and politicians. God, the fun that can come out of this:)

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PostPosted: Wed, 1st Feb 2017 22:25    Post subject:
Oculus lawsuit ends with half billion dollar judgment awarded to ZeniMax
Luckey pays $50M, Iribe pays $150M

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A Dallas, Texas jury today awarded half a billion dollars to ZeniMax after finding that Oculus co-founder Palmer Luckey, and by extension Oculus, failed to comply with a non-disclosure agreement he signed.

In awarding ZeniMax $500 million, the jury also said that Oculus did not misappropriate trade secrets as contended by ZeniMax.

Of the $500 million, Oculus is paying out $200 million for breaking the NDA and $50 million for copyright infringement. Oculus and Luckey each have to pay $50 million for false designation. And Iribe has to pay $150 million for the same, final count.

Reached for comment shortly after the verdict, Oculus said they will be appealing, but that they look forward to eventually putting the case behind them.

“The heart of this case was about whether Oculus stole ZeniMax's trade secrets, and the jury found decisively in our favor,” an Oculus spokesperson told Polygon. “We're obviously disappointed by a few other aspects of today's verdict, but we are undeterred. Oculus products are built with Oculus technology. Our commitment to the long-term success of VR remains the same, and the entire team will continue the work they've done since day one – developing VR technology that will transform the way people interact and communicate. “

http://www.polygon.com/2017/2/1/14474198/oculus-lawsuit-verdict



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PostPosted: Wed, 1st Feb 2017 22:40    Post subject:
Nice job Carmack or so I guess since he admitted to a few things which probably "kinda" swayed things in Zenimax's favor although this probably not too much for Facebock / Oculus as such but they're probably none to happy about this though Zeni did at least only get half of what they had sued for.
(Nothing wrong with the guy as such or anything but it does appear he might have messed up a bit with all of this.)

Well it's not a full loss at least.
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In awarding ZeniMax $500 million, the jury also said that Oculus did not misappropriate trade secrets as contended by ZeniMax.


That's pretty important I'd assume.
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PostPosted: Wed, 1st Feb 2017 23:00    Post subject:
Meh both greedy asshole companies, id feel pretty bad if i was carmack though it could happen to anyone.
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