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It doesn’t work with Splinter Cell 3
The SF driver 1.23 proceeds to a size check on SFDRV01.sys and detects that SF driver has been updated.
But it was definitely a big breakthrough coz CARBON managed to crack the SF drivers…
Decrypt the SF files like RELOADED does is a trap … encryption is the force of this protection and it will take a huge amount of time to decrypt everything. It’s exactly where the main SF programmer (an old cracker) wants to bring the scene coz he knows he can keep the crackers busy for a while. It’s easy for the SF team …wait for a crack …update their driver with the version 1.1 update patch of the game …no more doc scene!!! …no more games without bugs!!!
A method that avoids the decryption sequence (mini-image, drivers patch,…) will be more generic and bring you everything faster and with the possibility to update the games.
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| Posted: Wed, 6th Apr 2005 15:57 Post subject: |
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| dr.pat wrote: | It doesn’t work with Splinter Cell 3
The SF driver 1.23 proceeds to a size check on SFDRV01.sys and detects that SF driver has been updated.
But it was definitely a big breakthrough coz CARBON managed to crack the SF drivers…
Decrypt the SF files like RELOADED does is a trap … encryption is the force of this protection and it will take a huge amount of time to decrypt everything. It’s exactly where the main SF programmer (an old cracker) wants to bring the scene coz he knows he can keep the crackers busy for a while. It’s easy for the SF team …wait for a crack …update their driver with the version 1.1 update patch of the game …no more doc scene!!! …no more games without bugs!!!
A method that avoids the decryption sequence (mini-image, drivers patch,…) will be more generic and bring you everything faster and with the possibility to update the games. |
Yeah... They should really change their methods... if they want to keep cracking SF3 because the ones at present are not enough... Releases after 6 months are not a big achievements... I think the best way to go... is with SF3 drivers... I think they could be tricked into running the game without checking the CD... Maybe it'll be done someday... If not the scene will fall... because soon everyone will be using SF3 to protect their games... The prices will rize... and ppl will buy shitty games... because there won't be any way to check them before buying.... And don't tell me about demos... because they show shit...
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| Posted: Wed, 6th Apr 2005 15:58 Post subject: |
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| zerstorer wrote: | | but if i disable channel2 my computer freezes and i must restart |
That means: on your channel 2 is the system hdd...
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SycoShaman
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| Posted: Wed, 6th Apr 2005 16:07 Post subject: |
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this is the Second Site install instructions, wont work
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Hunter
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| Posted: Tue, 12th Apr 2005 05:26 Post subject: |
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KEEP THIS THREAD CLEAN *PLEASE*
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| Posted: Tue, 12th Apr 2005 09:17 Post subject: |
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I'm buying an external USB2 drive just so I don't have to contribute to StarForce protected game sales.
If UBI Soft realizes that their SecuRom/Safedisc games sell just as many if not more they may move back to those protections. Unless Starforce is cheaper =(
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| Posted: Tue, 12th Apr 2005 09:56 Post subject: |
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This one kinda reminds me of the first HL2 release, which was far worse of course. Sometimes it really is better to buy a game I guess. I Bought SCCT what did I get? I got the cool DVD box, some books, the game with full content as soon as it was available and full MP support. This is a good game, and everyone here who is looking forward to it, buy it, you wont regret. Why wait 2 weeks for a troubled release with no MP options which you can't even start up without alot of fucking...... Yeah I know...... It's alot of money but still.
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adaml75
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| Posted: Tue, 12th Apr 2005 12:04 Post subject: Yeah, thanks |
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I think by now everyone who owns a DVD drive has figured that out. That doesn't change the fact that there's no proper scene release or crack for this game.
Plus all the accounts I'm reading say only USB2.0 will work, and not all boards use it.
Plus the USB -> IDE adapter is $30, unless you buy it used and potentially broken off eGay, in which case it will run you about $1.50 plus shipping.
Yeah, why don't I just buy a DVD drive and an adapter piece, which will cost more than the game does. Good idea.
The only reason I haven't bought the game is because none of the stores around here are carrying the CD-ROM version. I could care less about StarForce. For all it matters, let every gaming company in the world use it. The longer it is out the more likely it is to be totally compromised and bug-riddled. It makes no difference except time while it is still uncommon. Which is now. Which is pissing me off.
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| Posted: Tue, 12th Apr 2005 12:23 Post subject: |
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| Selt wrote: | | adaml75 wrote: | Buying game - that's exactly SF3 creators want you to do  |
or buy a ide2usb cable for 15$ and make an usb dvd drive from your old dvd drive, playing chaos theory and every other sf3 game |
Yeah, this will be patched in the next version. I think the StarForce devs are joyous knowing they've foiled so many groups attempting to crack the SF3 protection.
I saw the IDE to USB cable and USB2.0 drive things will be patched because I'm sure the devs watch the forums and chatter of many sites and channels and gather info on how people are getting around their protection. It would be stupid not to get "community feedback" like that.
So we can bet it'll be patched in upcoming versions of SF and we'll have to find a new workaround. Hopefully the groups will have a sense of how to crack SF by then... but I doubt it.
| phybre wrote: | | Plus all the accounts I'm reading say only USB2.0 will work, and not all boards use it. |
If your motherboard does not support USB2.0, it's about time to upgrade don't you think?
The same goes for not having a DVD-ROM drive of some sort.
dyn IP addys, subnet & mac spoofs, email routing, and if all else fails, wi-fi. banned? lol, its more like brb. =p
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| Posted: Tue, 12th Apr 2005 12:31 Post subject: |
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just to say that sf3 guys have been trying to fix the usb drive thing for 18 month with no results...
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| Posted: Tue, 12th Apr 2005 12:32 Post subject: |
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Please stop the SF3 posts and post those in the Protection Bitchn forum to keep this thread clean.
| Injurious wrote: | | And then Mabel tripped over a rock and landed in a well and was trapped there with Timmy. Sadly I shot Lassie so no one is saving that bitch! |
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| Posted: Thu, 14th Apr 2005 00:14 Post subject: |
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A new problem:
If the groups are working on cracking this game, what are they going to crack? The 1.0 version or the new update, 1.01? The 1.01 update supposedly is an updated version of SF3 as well.
I highly doubt we'll see this game anytime soon, like I said the 2nd day of it being retail and still no sign of a rls.
Throw down the bones on this one folks, it's quite a nice game. 
dyn IP addys, subnet & mac spoofs, email routing, and if all else fails, wi-fi. banned? lol, its more like brb. =p
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| Posted: Thu, 14th Apr 2005 01:12 Post subject: |
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Lets not turn this into a SC3 bitchin thread and how SF3 fucks it up.
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| Posted: Thu, 14th Apr 2005 11:14 Post subject: |
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| SycoShaman wrote: | | Lets not turn this into a SC3 bitchin thread and how SF3 fucks it up. |
I think that was the whole point of this thread and why it's in the Protection Bitch'n section man.
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| Posted: Thu, 14th Apr 2005 14:26 Post subject: |
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maybe this one can be played under linux via Cedega 4.3.1. just a guess 
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| Posted: Thu, 14th Apr 2005 16:02 Post subject: |
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Wouldn't bet on it, rated one star on both sections and as far as I know SF3 isn't fond of being run inside a virtual machine, tends to crash the VM.
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| Posted: Sat, 16th Apr 2005 15:26 Post subject: |
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is there any information of how many pcodes does SC:CT use ?
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| Posted: Sun, 17th Apr 2005 01:08 Post subject: USB DVD success story |
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... well it wasn't easy. I wasted a few blank discs, but finally managed to run it. I post my steps here, because I wasn't able to find a right description anywhere on the net.
1. Got SCCT image (the french release, first one to hit the net)
2. Got minimage
3. Got newest Alcohol 28something
4. Got USB-2-IDE dongle installed on internal DVD-RW (Bought at the village market. Cost: about $10). No other IDE CD or DVD drives were installed.
Now comes the tricky part. I tried to burn minimage and game separately. No way. Wasn't working with any of the 3 serials I found. I had to use one file from minimage (.mds, 38k size) and the large file from french game image (.mdf, 4 GB). When I tried to burn this combination with RPMS enabled result was a toast. Finally burned it with RPMS _disabled_ (DVD+R Emtec, 2,4x speed, lowest possible in my drive). And - tadaa - the game started! Overall cost: probably $16-17 and a few hours of making toasters.
Went ingame, spent there 2 mins then I deleted everything and trashed all discs including all those toasters I made I hate Splinter Cell games and this one is no exception. (I play only turn-based strategy games which I buy, BTW.) I got ol' an' crappy gfx card too and got like 6 fps... Just wanted to see if I can bypass this uberprotection. Nice work, SF developers, if you read this forum! As I said, it wasn't easy, but I had some fun.
Well, to sum it up - you can defeat this protection, but - in my opinion - it's completely not worth the effort. Better buy the game if you like it. And spend a few more hours actually playing the game, not trying to make it work on your hardware.
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| Posted: Sun, 17th Apr 2005 19:24 Post subject: Re: USB DVD success story |
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| adaml75 wrote: | ... well it wasn't easy. I wasted a few blank discs, but finally managed to run it. I post my steps here, because I wasn't able to find a right description anywhere on the net.
1. Got SCCT image (the french release, first one to hit the net)
2. Got minimage
3. Got newest Alcohol 28something
4. Got USB-2-IDE dongle installed on internal DVD-RW (Bought at the village market. Cost: about $10). No other IDE CD or DVD drives were installed.
Now comes the tricky part. I tried to burn minimage and game separately. No way. Wasn't working with any of the 3 serials I found. I had to use one file from minimage (.mds, 38k size) and the large file from french game image (.mdf, 4 GB). When I tried to burn this combination with RPMS enabled result was a toast. Finally burned it with RPMS _disabled_ (DVD+R Emtec, 2,4x speed, lowest possible in my drive). And - tadaa - the game started! Overall cost: probably $16-17 and a few hours of making toasters.
Went ingame, spent there 2 mins then I deleted everything and trashed all discs including all those toasters I made I hate Splinter Cell games and this one is no exception. (I play only turn-based strategy games which I buy, BTW.) I got ol' an' crappy gfx card too and got like 6 fps... Just wanted to see if I can bypass this uberprotection. Nice work, SF developers, if you read this forum! As I said, it wasn't easy, but I had some fun.
Well, to sum it up - you can defeat this protection, but - in my opinion - it's completely not worth the effort. Better buy the game if you like it. And spend a few more hours actually playing the game, not trying to make it work on your hardware. |
Which serial number did you use?
Because I´m trying what you said but I´am having wrong serials.
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| Posted: Sun, 17th Apr 2005 21:19 Post subject: Re: USB DVD success story |
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| Aragorn777 wrote: |
Which serial number did you use?
Because I´m trying what you said but I´am having wrong serials. |
no requesting serial numbers m8 |
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| Posted: Sun, 17th Apr 2005 21:49 Post subject: Re: USB DVD success story |
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| skidrow wrote: | | Aragorn777 wrote: |
Which serial number did you use?
Because I´m trying what you said but I´am having wrong serials. |
no requesting serial numbers m8 |
nice try tho
there are 2 serials
euro and na
doesnt matter what one u use tho, it WONT work
really, any fix will either be on the main page or a new thread (if verified)will be created. |
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adaml75
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| Posted: Mon, 18th Apr 2005 03:18 Post subject: |
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hey adaml75, but i dont understand ..... but you are burning the image with the RPMS disable so you are burning a normal cd.. and this work???
About the general discuttion i think what the solution is the cloneDVD or CD copy because no problem with the updates.
P.D: sorry to my english i am latinoamerican
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SycoShaman
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| Posted: Mon, 18th Apr 2005 04:33 Post subject: |
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| adaml75 wrote: | It works! I found three serials - one starting with 2Q... second with HL... and third with GQ... . I think the last one worked, but I'm not sure - tried entering all three with every toaster I made 
Actually I found them on torrent sites - I don't use torrents myself, but there is always a lot of useful information on the forums.
SycoShaman: it is difficult, but works. Maybe you couldn't make it work, but it doesn't mean it's impossible. |
maybe i wasnt clear
or you were, one of us wast
I mean the cd key doesnt work if u wanna mount or play off an ide drive with a backup disc - if u got it to work, please post exactly how u did it cuz u'd be the first person - unless u have original disc
Im sure one of the serials floating around out there work for the usb version
I was talking about mounting and such |
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adaml75
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| Posted: Mon, 18th Apr 2005 22:36 Post subject: |
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......hufff ok yuo are playing the game with a external USB DVD drive ..
..........ok,now i understand you no t are clene de DVD only burn the data of the dvd,ok.well now is clearly.
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