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Epsilon
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| Posted: Sun, 4th Oct 2009 01:39 Post subject: |
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| inz wrote: | Maybe he's in a kidding mood as well and will ban you.  |
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| Posted: Sun, 4th Oct 2009 01:39 Post subject: |
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How in the hell am I banned, yet able to still be logged in and posting? Cooool!
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| Posted: Sun, 4th Oct 2009 01:40 Post subject: |
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A ban would actually help improve sabins life as he would be able to spend more time with his wife  I'm for a ban... ~3 hours should be enough for a nice meal a movie and some intimate moments
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Sun, 4th Oct 2009 03:31 Post subject: |
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| Waldo wrote: | ifoto
imovie
garage band
iweb
pages
numbers
keynote
idvd
expose
photobooth
timemachine
http://www.apple.com/macosx/what-is-macosx/apps-and-utilities.html
they may not be BIG tings, but they're the things that make owning a mac a dirty pleasure Very Happy
a lot of win7 features that i've seen that make people go OOOOO AWSUM and WOW are the simple features in OSX
and ummm if you lose your phone can you use your os to help you find it? Razz I DUN THINK SO |
All this can be found in Windows as well.  |
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WaldoJ
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| Posted: Sun, 4th Oct 2009 06:53 Post subject: |
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| iNatan wrote: | | Waldo wrote: | ifoto
imovie
garage band
iweb
pages
numbers
keynote
idvd
expose
photobooth
timemachine
http://www.apple.com/macosx/what-is-macosx/apps-and-utilities.html
they may not be BIG tings, but they're the things that make owning a mac a dirty pleasure Very Happy
a lot of win7 features that i've seen that make people go OOOOO AWSUM and WOW are the simple features in OSX
and ummm if you lose your phone can you use your os to help you find it? Razz I DUN THINK SO |
All this can be found in Windows as well. |
after you downlaod the appropriate software... yes... but not as a clean windows install 
windows 7, yeah it comes closer and closer to what mac has been offering for years...
i find it awesome.... that vista came like 60% close to osx and it needed a beefy machine to run properly... now windows 7 comes about 70% close to what osx is even with the inferface. the day windows becomes as stable for media production then yes windows will rule both gaming and production world... but right now only thing windows is, is a gaming platform... osx rules the media world, it always has and it always will... with each release of osx it comes closer and closer to becoming a manditory standard.
windows is a standard in the modern world. i understand the hate. osx is a different operating system and yes it's used by pretentious assholes, but these assholes work on what the osx provides at it's maximum ability to what the windows systems can only dream of.
the only up the windows has is gaming.
hardware for macs is expensive, yes, but it's built for it, for its ultimate performance.
people these days look for gfx cards and audio cards to excel in gaming, where as people buy hardware for macs to excel in media production (adobe/fcp/etc etc etc)
it's a fact that macs are a standard in media production advertising, post production, and what ever else is there... windows deals at the same level but to reach the ability that osx has at is minimum level, you need a machine that costs twice as much as the cheapest mac.
kids who buy macs just because others have them, rarely use them to its full potential.
that's like in canada and isp's. in europe people want the fastest connection to download at the highest speed and have the biggest e-penis. in canada only a fraction of kids use their internet connection to download and stream videos online. others use internet just to check their e-mail... and that's something sabin and many other arrogant kids fail to understand.
anyone who believes the world they're exposed to is alike with the world outside of their own... is incredibly stupid.
i'm now going to bash spykez... who is incredibly racist. but that does not reflect the entire american society... it only reflect the part of america where he's at. who cannot accept that a black person is a leader of their country. no matter how much good he wants to accomplish in the world, he's wrong at doing so because he's a 'nigger'. simple. sabiin and many others are exactly the same. it also goes for the fanboys of consoles.
if you cannot comprehend the idea that graphics do not equal gameplay then you really are a worthles piece of shit. simple. ps3 has its ups and down. so does the 360 and so does the wii. but all platforms excel in what they were designed to do. same with operating systems.
windows in a known gaming platforms. recognized by anyone and everyone.
macs are designed to focus on media based production...
people who do not work within media will not ever comprehend the idea that macs are superior in that aspect. they were designed for it. simple.
arguing that fact is like arguing that the wii is a childish platform and only kids and women should play it, and people who say that have never fully played a wii.
you cannot argue one is better without living in both worlds...
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Sun, 4th Oct 2009 07:03 Post subject: |
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tl;dr
vista had more software preinstalled then 7 actually.
| WaldoJ wrote: | hardware for macs is expensive, yes, but it's built for it, for its ultimate performance.
people these days look for gfx cards and audio cards to excel in gaming, where as people buy hardware for macs to excel in media production (adobe/fcp/etc etc etc) |
LOL mac hardware now uses the mid-range parts of intel. how is it built for ultimate performance?
| WaldoJ wrote: | | i'm now going to bash spykez... who is incredibly racist. but that does not reflect the entire american society... it only reflect the part of america where he's at. who cannot accept that a black person is a leader of their country. no matter how much good he wants to accomplish in the world, he's wrong at doing so because he's a 'nigger'. simple. |
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| Posted: Sun, 4th Oct 2009 07:13 Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | the only up the windows has is gaming. |
No.
You're all looking at it wrong. There is no ONE operating system that is better than the other. Operating systems are tools. People will operate them according to what they need and personal preference. Think of OS's as hammers. If I've gown up and operated with the same hammer all my life, I'm not going to switch to another one, even if it's bigger, better, and easier to hold, because I've already familiarized myself with my current hammer to the point that I'm comfortable with the level of productivity I get out of it.
However, if one day I find a job that my current hammer cannot do, I will gladly buy another one and get the job done. Until that day, I will stick with my beloved hammer, twist it, tweak it, anything so long as I don't have to replace it.
Waldo has used a MAC for a long time (all his life?). Waldo is familiar with his MAC. Waldo can do on his MAC everything I can do with my PC.
I have a PC. I am comfortable with my PC. I can do on my PC everything that Waldo can do on his MAC. One day I found that I couldn't comfortably develop iPhone apps on the PC. That same day I went and bought a $1700 MACBook. Now that MAC is another tool in my toolbox. I don't use it much, because usually everything I do can be done from the PC. Maybe it takes more effort and hardware to do that stuff on the PC, but I will do it anyways because I am comfortable with my PC.
It all comes down to personal taste, as with many other things in life. Arguing which is better, PC vs MAC, is like arguing which is better, Java or C#? Pointless...
Sense Amid Madness, Wit Amidst Folly
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WaldoJ
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| Posted: Sun, 4th Oct 2009 07:20 Post subject: |
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| tainted4ever wrote: |
However, if one day I find a job that my current hammer cannot do, I will gladly buy another one and get the job done. Until that day, I will stick with my beloved hammer, twist it, tweak it, anything so long as I don't have to replace it.
Waldo has used a MAC for a long time (all his life?). Waldo is familiar with his MAC. Waldo can do on his MAC everything I can do with my PC.
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nah i used windows all my life... for games... i use macs for work... and what i do for work requires a beefy windows machine. and stable.
all i've really seen when people talk about windows machines... they talk about games and gaming peformance where as mac users talk about pro work 
it's 
ieo... i never seen a mac crash unless it's forced
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Sun, 4th Oct 2009 07:28 Post subject: |
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| WaldoJ wrote: | | ieo... i never seen a mac crash unless it's forced |
never had my pc crash in 5 years (seriously)
with mac i had 3 kernel panics which resulted in restart and data loss
don't dodge it,
| WaldoJ wrote: | hardware for macs is expensive, yes, but it's built for it, for its ultimate performance.
people these days look for gfx cards and audio cards to excel in gaming, where as people buy hardware for macs to excel in media production (adobe/fcp/etc etc etc) |
LOL mac hardware now uses the mid-range parts of intel. how is it built for ultimate performance? |
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WaldoJ
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| Posted: Sun, 4th Oct 2009 07:30 Post subject: |
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| iNatan wrote: | | WaldoJ wrote: | | ieo... i never seen a mac crash unless it's forced |
never had my pc crash in 5 years (seriously)
with mac i had 3 kernel panics which resulted in restart and data loss
don't dodge it,
| WaldoJ wrote: | hardware for macs is expensive, yes, but it's built for it, for its ultimate performance.
people these days look for gfx cards and audio cards to excel in gaming, where as people buy hardware for macs to excel in media production (adobe/fcp/etc etc etc) |
LOL mac hardware now uses the mid-range parts of intel. how is it built for ultimate performance? |
like i said i never seen a mac crash
i've seen windows crash more often than macs
they are built for ultimate performance both in power consumption and stability
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Sun, 4th Oct 2009 07:33 Post subject: |
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| WaldoJ wrote: | like i said i never seen a mac crash
i've seen windows crash more often than macs
they are built for ultimate performance both in power consumption and stability |
which mac you been looking at, yours?
looking at all the pcs in my house i never seen pc crash either
also for power consumption post one mac and i will post a faster machine with less consumption |
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WaldoJ
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| Posted: Sun, 4th Oct 2009 07:40 Post subject: |
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no all macs i've dealt with... not one has crashed
Two 2.26GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon 6GB (6x1GB)640GB 7200-rpm Serial ATA 3Gb/sNVIDIA GeForce GT 120 512MBOne 18x SuperDriveApple Mighty MouseApple Keyboard with Numeric Keypad (English) and User's Guide w/ 4 usb 800 ports
The new Mac Pro embodies Appleโs continuing environmental commitment. It is designed with the following features to reduce its environmental impact:
BFR-freePVC-free (internal cables) Highly recyclable aluminum enclosure Meets ENERGY STAR 5.0 requirements Rated EPEAT Gold
+ it's a tax write off for me so show me a machine like that virtually for free
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Sun, 4th Oct 2009 07:44 Post subject: |
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| WaldoJ wrote: | | + it's a tax write off for me so show me a machine like that virtually for free |
| inz wrote: | | What kind of dumbass argument is this? |
| iNatan wrote: | The only  only one macfags have |
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WaldoJ
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| Posted: Sun, 4th Oct 2009 07:49 Post subject: |
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| iNatan wrote: | | WaldoJ wrote: | | + it's a tax write off for me so show me a machine like that virtually for free |
| inz wrote: | | What kind of dumbass argument is this? |
| iNatan wrote: | | The only only one macfags have |
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exactly macs for me are free cause it's for work... they're reliable and stable... i'm not a macfag though
but show me a machine that can handle 4k footage for under 3k that's also energy efficent
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Sun, 4th Oct 2009 08:13 Post subject: |
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Intel Xeon E5520 Nehalem 2.26GHz LGA 1366 80W Quad-Core Server Processor Model BX80602E5520 - Retail - $384.99 x2
ASUS Z8PE-D12(ASMB4-IKVM) Dual LGA 1366 Intel 5520 Tylersburg SSI EEB 3.61 Dual Intel Xeon 5500 Series w/ Remote Management Server Motherboard - Retail - $409.99
OCZ Gold 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Low Voltage Desktop Memory Model OCZ3G1600LV6GK - Retail - $129.99 (faster than the 1066MHz Mac Pro memory)
Western Digital Caviar Black WD1001FALS 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drives - OEM - $94.99
ASUS EN9500GT MAGIC/DI/512MD2/V2 GeForce 9500 GT 512MB 128-bit DDR2 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail - $56.99 (same as GT120 - more info here)
Thermaltake Spedo VI90001N2Z Black 0.8 mm SECC Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case - Retail - $169.99
CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply - Retail - $119.99
Logitech MK700 Black USB 2.4 GHz Wireless Desktop - Retail - $94.99
Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders - OEM - $134.99
Total $1981.90
It's the same machine, so same energy efficiency.
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WaldoJ
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| Posted: Sun, 4th Oct 2009 08:30 Post subject: |
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 and if you run osx on it it'll struggle
same specs does not equal same performance
when it comes to macs vs pcs... specs mean shit really...
i'm sure that machine can run 4k footage just like it can run a 40gig uncompressed file
but for it t handle 4k + render it'd need to be faster when it runs on windows
im not bashing your results but you can't really look at mac specs and then look for pc hardware and compare prices... and call it exactly the same because the hardware is the same... that's just silly
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Sun, 4th Oct 2009 08:31 Post subject: |
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Sun, 4th Oct 2009 08:38 Post subject: |
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Of course I wasn't expecting any other response, it's been pretty clear what the result would be, but now I have sig material.
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WaldoJ
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| Posted: Sun, 4th Oct 2009 08:45 Post subject: |
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dude, sabin, seriously go fuck yourself... like really? why are you being a cockfag for? the wife not giving you some so you gotta be a serious dick over here? really? fuck you...
ieo...
shut up and listen...
that's a low end avid program see the difference in specs...?
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PC
Operating System: Microsoft Windows XP 32-bit Edition - Service Pack 2. Microsoft Vista is not supported.
System Memory: 1GB DDR2 SDRAM (2GB recommended for HD and high-stream count SD projects: 4GB (4 x 1GB) required for HP xw8400 workstations in Avid Unity MediaNetwork 5.0 environments
One of the following processors: (minimum speed listed)
Xeon 2.4 GHz (single or dual core)
Intel Core 2 Duo 2.13 GHz
Intel Core Duo 1.67 GHz
Pentium 4 1.8 GHz
Pentium M 1.8 GHz (mobile)
Pentium D 1.7 GHz (mobile)
Qualified graphics card (per model, as supported by system vendors)
Qualified IEEE-1394 FireWire port (integrated or add-in card; Avid Mojo is not supported on notebook systems with PCMCIA cards of any kind)
40GB or larger internal drive
DVD-ROM or DVD+RW drive
QuickTime 7.1 or higher; Windows Media Player 10 (with version 9.5 codecs)
The following specific graphics cards have been tested by Avid:
Graphics Cards (Workstations)
NVIDIA QuadroFX 3500 PCI Express
NVIDIA QuadroFX 3450 PCI Express
NVIDIA QuadroFX 3400 PCI Express
NVIDIA QuadroFX 1500 PCI Express
NVIDIA QuadroFX 1400 PCI Express
NVIDIA QuadroFX 1300 PCI Express
NVIDIA QuadroFX 560 PCI Express
NVIDIA QuadroFX 550 PCI Express
NVIDIA QuadroFX 3000 AGP 8X
NVIDIA QuadroFX 1100 AGP 8X
NVIDIA QuadroFX 500 AGP 8X
Graphics Cards (Notebooks)
NVIDIA QuadroFX 1500M
NVIDIA Quadro FX 350M
NVIDIA Quadro FX Go1400
ATI Mobility FireGL V5200*
ATI Mobility Fire GL V5000*
ATI Mobility Radeon X600*
* Please Note: Refer to the support matrix for any specific Avid editor version requirements regarding ATI chipsets.
The add-in PCI card must be a universal PCI card with the T.I chip set. Qualified 1394 (FireWire) Cards for PC Workstations include
ADS PYRO PCI 64, part #API-311 or API-315 [Required in Intel Xeon systems with expanded storage]
SIIG 1394 3-Port PCI i/e, part #NN-440012
SUNIX FWA2414
Qualified 1394 (FireWire) Cards for PC Notebooks include
ADS PYRO 1394DV for Notebooks, part #API-601 or #API-602
SIIG CardBus PC Card, part #NN-PCM012
SIIG 1394 CardBus Dual, part #NN-PCM212
IBM 1394 CardBus PC Card, part #19K5678
The boot drive should be IDE, SCSI, or SATA 7200 RPM. Do not use internal SCSI as a boot device if you also plan on adding external SCSI drives (in which case use IDE or SATA).
Macintosh
Operating System: Mac OS X 10.4.10
Earlier versions of Mac OS X are not supported. Mac OSX Leopard is not supported.
System Memory (same requirements for software-only, with Avid Mojo or with Avid Mojo SDI)
1GB system minimum
2GB recommended for HD and high-stream count SD projects
3GB maximum - more than 3GB will not be recognized by the system
A graphics adapter supported by Apple - 128MB (or higher) memory on graphics card
Apple native FireWire, included with all qualified systems
40GB or larger internal SATA boot drive
CD or DVD-ROM drive or DVD+RW drive
QuickTime 7.2
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ps. sabin stop posting your bullshit and go suck a dick, asshole.
Banned: Flaming ~Epsilon
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Sun, 4th Oct 2009 08:48 Post subject: |
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there is no difference in the requirements nubcake but keep embarrassing yourself, it's fine by me
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WaldoJ
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| Posted: Sun, 4th Oct 2009 08:55 Post subject: |
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awww ok 
you suur?
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WaldoJ
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| Posted: Sun, 4th Oct 2009 08:58 Post subject: |
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| sabin1981 wrote: | *applauds*
Awesome. Lose an argument, resort to personal insults and flaming. Reported, have a good evening |
you actually deserve insults i'm sorry... but i really am starting to see what kind of an arrogant ass you are
and umm thare is a difference
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WaldoJ
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| Posted: Sun, 4th Oct 2009 09:04 Post subject: |
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oooo old link too prolly means nothing cause they used prebuilt machines and stuff and something http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/reviews/4258725.html?page=4
it's like... i know you can build your own system 10x better than a mac for a fraction of the price...
but for it to run osx i dun think so osx is modified to run at its best with the hardware it was designed for. even if it's not top notch super duper expensive hardware... it still manages to out due pc's in shit  and if you spend an arm and a leg for a mac... you has super awesome pc to render/edit 4k footage at awesome fun super time, and still run latest crytek game at 16fps
like come on !!!!!!! agreeee with me!!! NAO!!! :FACE:!!!! <caps!!>
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Sun, 4th Oct 2009 09:08 Post subject: |
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actually benchmarks have shown hackintosh osx to run faster than osx on macs
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