Gothic 3 Forsaken Gods
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lolozaur




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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Nov 2008 14:39    Post subject: Gothic 3 Forsaken Gods
omg no topic about this game that its to be released in 2 days...the german version is already out

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* Lively and interactive environment which reacts to the player's actions, creating a very intense and realistic atmosphere
* Improved graphics quality thanks to updated engine technology
* Enhanced user interface
* 15-20 intense hours of gameplay
* Improved combat system with new combat rules
* Plenty of new weapons, armour, monsters and quests





http://pc.ign.com/articles/866/866253p1.html
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AKofC




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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Nov 2008 14:42    Post subject:
AUTOFAIL!! because I don't see anything about improved and stable performance.


The listed features are all well and good, but they're pointless if I keep crashing every 5 minutes with shitty performance on a high end rig.

Also armor that actually protects please.


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djaoni




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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Nov 2008 14:43    Post subject:
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15-20 intense hours of gameplay


That's a joke, right? If not that's fucking short for a RPG.
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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Nov 2008 14:44    Post subject:
It was discussed a bit in the main G3 topic, should also point out now as to avoid problems later that the map appears to have been reduced in size a bit or a better description would be to say that it's been blocked off.

This a shorter more focused G3 title acting as a prequel to the events in G4 (war basically.) so don't expect too much, for example relating to the new reduced gameworld only Myrtana will be accessible from what I've read. (No Varant/Nordmar exploration.) and it also follows the Innos/Xardas ending.

EDIT: Damn you guys post quick.
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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Nov 2008 14:45    Post subject:
We talk about it in the G3 thread, it's an engine update not sure about quests.
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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Nov 2008 14:47    Post subject:
No it's not, it's been improved a bit (Looks a bit better due to shader improvements and hopefully performs a bit better and more stable.) based on what I suppose is the fan-made patch teams effort with the engine but the title itself is stand-alone and not part of Gothic 3, there's a CE by the way which includes both games.
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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Nov 2008 14:49    Post subject:
JBeckman wrote:
It was discussed a bit in the main G3 topic, should also point out now as to avoid problems later that the map appears to have been reduced in size a bit or a better description would be to say that it's been blocked off.

for example relating to the new reduced gameworld only Myrtana will be accessible from what I've read. (No Varant/Nordmar exploration.)
WTF! that's like 1/3 of the map I guess that's their way of optimizing G3, butcher it into a smaller size Rolling Eyes any links to this?
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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Nov 2008 14:52    Post subject:
Main discussion thread on the WoG forums so I'd say it's accurate.

http://forum.worldofplayers.de/forum/showthread.php?t=381016&page=14

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same world couple of years in the future, Varant and nordmar are off limits so its just myrtana


Page 16 discusses the game a bit more as some stores started selling it but page 15 also contains some info about the game.
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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Nov 2008 15:13    Post subject:
Fucking news to me, a strange addon it takes more than it adds. I outlined with black where the borders are as you can see it's a lot of quests and people, a shame the map was the best thing about G3 there is no way it will be better than the original now:

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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Nov 2008 15:26    Post subject:
Yeah I just learned about this myself a few days ago, odd decision (Time constraints?) and I've no idea how the game will turn out.
(G3 had potential but was rushed, Forsaken Gods/Gotterdammerung seems to fare a bit better if there's less content but a patch is already scheduled to be released on Friday - Day-1 patch so to say - based on what I've read in the German section of the forums and it's around 100 MB if I translated that part accurately.)

http://forum.worldofplayers.de/forum/showthread.php?t=495463
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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Nov 2008 15:34    Post subject:
ok guys im playing this right now and its full of bugs. the gfx like trees and bushes look like shit and blurred...wrong translation from english to german (due to cheap indian programmers), missing text in boxes, invisible NPCs, Memory allocation crashes every 30 minutes and game stops 10 seconds any time you move a little and then goes on..unplayable currently...they really messed up...so do NOT buy this.
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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Nov 2008 15:39    Post subject:
Interesting, I did expect there to be some bugs and problems with the game but not that bad, will also be interesting to see what the patch will do when it's released.
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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Nov 2008 15:45    Post subject:
segobi wrote:
ok guys im playing this right now and its full of bugs. the gfx like trees and bushes look like shit and blurred...wrong translation from english to german (due to cheap indian programmers), missing text in boxes, invisible NPCs, Memory allocation crashes every 30 minutes and game stops 10 seconds any time you move a little and then goes on..unplayable currently...they really messed up...so do NOT buy this.


They definitely should have used the engine they're using for the new Gothic game.

I mean, this stand alone expansion is their foray into the world of Gothic. Having it as buggy as Gothic 3 doesn't set a good precedent.
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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Nov 2008 16:05    Post subject:
weird. g3,after the latest community patch, was actually playable.
seems they somehow managed to take backward steps.
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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Nov 2008 16:41    Post subject:
I'm seeing "Gothic.3.Goetterdaemmerung.GERMAN-0x0007" on a few sites so I guess Reloaded released it. (That is the German section/team of Reloaded isn't it?)

EDIT: Seems to be a bit buggy based on several comments, 2.8 GB big by the way.
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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Nov 2008 16:58    Post subject:
It was to be expected, even the CP guys said the engine was very badly coded. Full of redundant code and a big mess. Jowood should've delayed this so that the new engine could've been used. As good as PB was in designing, they were utter crap in coding. Now why would you want to use a heavily bashed engine for a new expansion?
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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Nov 2008 18:23    Post subject:
It's possible to enable english subtitles in config file, just tried it


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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Nov 2008 18:41    Post subject:
Thanks for the tip, interesting that they left the English text in the game. Smile
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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Nov 2008 18:51    Post subject:
JBeckman wrote:
Thanks for the tip, interesting that they left the English text in the game. Smile


In original Gothic3 they left them too, i remember playing german vcd_clone with english subtitles


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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Nov 2008 19:56    Post subject:
crap cant find the option to turn it to english texts Smile)
some help pls
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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Nov 2008 20:07    Post subject:
(Game Install directory)\Ini\Ge3.ini

Bottom of the file. Smile

[Language]
Text=German
Audio=German

The English voices aren't available but you can change the first value to English to get English text for the game. Smile
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lolozaur




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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Nov 2008 20:22    Post subject:
+u have to modify in the useroptions.ini
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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Nov 2008 00:37    Post subject:
djaoni wrote:
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15-20 intense hours of gameplay


That's a joke, right? If not that's fucking short for a RPG.


It's actually more of an expansion, that's why it's that short.
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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Nov 2008 01:16    Post subject:
Smokeythedemon wrote:
djaoni wrote:
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15-20 intense hours of gameplay


That's a joke, right? If not that's fucking short for a RPG.


It's actually more of an expansion, that's why it's that short.


Well when they cut 70% of the game.
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lolozaur




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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Nov 2008 09:51    Post subject:
Ok this game moves like crap or whta...same crap as gothic 3,freezes and stuttering all the way
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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Nov 2008 09:54    Post subject:
No issues like that here, small flickering with the shadows but that's driver related (ATI) and as far as I see it this is like Gothic 3 with the 1.6 update but with some modifications to the gameworld.
(Some icons and such are taken directly from that patch like scavenger eggs, same with a few other updates and changes.)

EDIT: There are a few bugs and issues however, just check the German WoG forums.
http://forum.worldofplayers.de/forum/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=98
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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Nov 2008 11:46    Post subject:
So is the combat better?
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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Nov 2008 15:45    Post subject:
Works fine here, little better than G3 with CP1.6. Welcome the long nights... Though probably doesn't break my G3 record of 24h of playing straight as it has only 20h of play? Probably more with powerplay.
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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Nov 2008 16:17    Post subject:
What is meant by they "cut 70% of the game." Do you mean the expansion itself is 70% smaller than originally planned? Or do you mean that if you do NOT install the expansion, the original game is much larger? How could the original be larger when the expansion adds new content, even if very little?
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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Nov 2008 17:40    Post subject:
Here:
http://forum.worldofplayers.de/forum/showthread.php?p=7761946&#post7761946

Now compare that with the map in G3 and you'll see why this game is shorter.

They also forgot to delete certain content and references so you'll find everything from G3 in this addon aside from certain NPC's (Xardas is still referenced in the console but not in the game, Lee is in Nordmar and Milten is in the desert, use the "goto console command if you feel like exploring but there's not much there.)

Some item descriptions and the appearance of the new items are a bit odd as well.

Combat is more or less the same aside from the inclusion of the stamina system.

Ok game but not much else, bridges the story between G3 and G4.
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