Europa Universalis IV
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Overlord123




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PostPosted: Fri, 10th Aug 2012 16:42    Post subject: Europa Universalis IV
Europa Universalis IV


  • Publisher: Paradox Interactive
  • Developer: Paradox Development Studios
  • Genre: Grand Strategy
  • Release date: q3 2013
  • Story/Description:
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    - Take your own decisions: Nation building is flexible: decide your own form of government, the structure of your society, trade politics and more. The possibilities are endless.
    - Use your Monarch Power: Experience the new system of monarch power where your spread of choices is influence by the caliber of the man you have at the top. Do you have a warrior King? Then it is time to make war.
    - Experience history coming to life: The great people and personalities of the past are on hand to support you. Thousands of historical events guide you, with unique different flavor depending on the country you play. Have more than a thousand historical leaders and over 4000 historical Monarchs at your disposal.
    - The world is now your playground: Players can enjoy over 300 years of gameplay in a lush topographic map in full 3D. Lead any one of more than 250 countries that originally existed during the game’s extensive time span.
    - Experience the all new trade system: The trade system adds a new dimension to the great trade empires of the period. Seize control of key ports to expand your trade, support it with your powerful fleet and the wealth of the world will flow to you.
    - Bring out your diplomatic skills: Deeper diplomatic gameplay, with coalitions, threats, fleet basing rights and detailed support for rebels. Introducing unilateral opinions, a country may dislike you, but you can be neutral towards them.
    - Engage in Multiplayer: Battle against your friends or try co-operative multiplayer mode that allows several players to work together to control a single nation for up to 32 players. Featuring hotjoin, improved chat, new matchmaking server andsupport for a standalone server.
    - Create your own history & customize your game: Europa Universalis IV gives you the chance to customize and mod practically anything your heart may desire.

  • Multiplayer: Up to 32 players
  • System requirements:
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    Operating system: XP/Vista/Windows7
    Processor: Intel® Pentium® IV 2.4 GHz or AMD 3500+
    Memory: 2 Gb RAM
    Hard disk space: 2 GB Available HDD Space
    Video: NVIDIA® GeForce 8800 or ATI Radeon® X1900, 512mb graphics memory required.
    Resolution at least: 1024*768
    Sound: Direct X-compatible sound card
    DirectX®: DirectX 9
    Controller support: 3-button mouse, keyboard and speakers
    Special multiplayer requirements: Internet Connection or LAN for multiplayer
    Multiplayer: Up to 32 other players in multiplayer mode

  • News article/s: Strategyinformer, Kotaku


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Surray




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PostPosted: Fri, 10th Aug 2012 17:01    Post subject:
oh crap it's a year away!
it's so cruel to announce games so early Sad

I love paradox grand strategy games so I'll certainly buy this one when it comes out. Can't wait!


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Overlord123




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PostPosted: Fri, 10th Aug 2012 17:05    Post subject:
Surray wrote:
oh crap it's a year away!
it's so cruel to announce games so early Sad

I love paradox grand strategy games so I'll certainly buy this one when it comes out. Can't wait!

Me too! Currently playing EU3 and I'm having a blast. They are my favorite developers.
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cheat2win




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PostPosted: Fri, 10th Aug 2012 17:25    Post subject:
Q3 2013! Not to mention that it will probably be postponed, like they did with Crusaders Kings II, for the sake of polishing it, so maybe it will only be available in 2014...

And as long they keep keeping the DRM out, don't make the game high-end PCs only and don't push DLC as was the case with CKII, I'm happy.
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Leeprah




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PostPosted: Fri, 10th Aug 2012 17:44    Post subject:
Whats the problem with Paradox DLC policy? You are getting awesome support for the games for YEARS because of the DLC? I wish ALL companys would do what Paradox does with DLC. Its not just about getting paid, its about making the games live longer. Cant fucking understand the spoiled brats crying like schoolgirls about DLC (of the paradox sort)...
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PostPosted: Fri, 10th Aug 2012 18:03    Post subject:
Leeprah wrote:
Whats the problem with Paradox DLC policy? You are getting awesome support for the games for YEARS because of the DLC? I wish ALL companys would do what Paradox does with DLC. Its not just about getting paid, its about making the games live longer. Cant fucking understand the spoiled brats crying like schoolgirls about DLC (of the paradox sort)...


You're the fucking spoiled brat, who can't read an opinion about something, and start offending people.

Awesome support for the games for YEARS because of DLC? LOL @ that. lol wut

My problem with the DLC is: I prefer expansions to small shitty DLC. CKII has nine DLCs. Eight of them are things that should have been included at game release, or at least as a free update. Only one is money worth, and it was poorly introduced since it breaks things for those who didn't bought it. So excuse me, if I don't like their DLC policy, and would prefer if they released a proper expansion, instead of getting on the DLC wagon, like every other company in the hope of making more profits, just for the sake of it.
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Leeprah




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PostPosted: Fri, 10th Aug 2012 18:08    Post subject:
EU3 came 2007, they are still releasing patches for that game. Thats YEARS. And without the income from the expansions/DLCs they would not be able to keep supporting their games.

But I can already tell you clearly not capable of understanding what Im trying to say so ill skip, have a nice day.
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cheat2win




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PostPosted: Fri, 10th Aug 2012 18:27    Post subject:
Leeprah wrote:
EU3 came 2007, they are still releasing patches for that game. Thats YEARS. And without the income from the expansions/DLCs they would not be able to keep supporting their games.

But I can already tell you clearly not capable of understanding what Im trying to say so ill skip, have a nice day.


Patches are not DLC. DLCs are not expansions. When they started releasing DLC, they were already patching their games for years, so don't try telling me that they only did so because of the 1.99€ DLC songs they would release for CKII in the future.

I'm fine with people liking, and supporting DLC. I personally don't, and would prefer a classic expansion as I said before. And I love Paradox and their games. I'm just not a raging uptight little fanboy bitch, who can't read someone stating an opinion different than mine. Try to grasp and understand that, although I also know you're not capable of that.

Oh, and congrats on being the first on my ignore list.
Good day sir. Troll Dad
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Imoen




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PostPosted: Fri, 10th Aug 2012 18:34    Post subject:
A must buy game, probably one of my most played game ever. But I have to agree with cheat2win, while paradox is an unique and great developer, much of their dlc is things that really should be in the game to begin with. They do support their game for a very long time though, so some slack is acceptable.
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PostPosted: Fri, 10th Aug 2012 18:53    Post subject:
Imoen wrote:
A must buy game, probably one of my most played game ever. But I have to agree with cheat2win, while paradox is an unique and great developer, much of their dlc is things that really should be in the game to begin with. They do support their game for a very long time though, so some slack is acceptable.


Thank you for the support, kind sir. Whirling cane

And is as you said, some slack is indeed acceptable.
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Overlord123




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PostPosted: Fri, 10th Aug 2012 19:07    Post subject:
Imoen wrote:
while paradox is an unique and great developer, much of their dlc is things that really should be in the game to begin with.

How would that be possible when they create the new music and sprites AFTER the game has shipped? Or are you saying they should not create new stuff for the game after release and only release patches but no new content?
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cheat2win




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PostPosted: Fri, 10th Aug 2012 19:32    Post subject:
If it is really made after release, then it's fine, when it comes to that kind of things like music, sprites, additional non-game modifying stuff.

The problem is stuff that should be on the game and is released as DLC one day later after the game was. CKII for example: Dynasty Shields and Mongol Faces. 4.98€ for something that should be included in the game.

Or let's see: they released Sword of Islam, a DLC allowing Muslim nations to be played. Nothing wrong with that. But also releasing a sprite and a song pack for Muslim nations as separated DLC just feels cheap. They should have released Sword of Islam with the sprites and the songs at least.

And come on, Ruler Designer? Should not this be included in the base game? Or as free update? Nope, 4.99€.

What's next? People buy the base game, and then we have to buy each nation, and each graphic and each song, all of them separated?

I'm not against DLC. I just would prefer they released stuff as an expansion, instead of holding out stuff, so just they can release it latter as DLC.
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PostPosted: Fri, 10th Aug 2012 20:56    Post subject:
O_O


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Overlord123




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PostPosted: Fri, 10th Aug 2012 22:45    Post subject:
Shoshomiga wrote:
Leeprah wrote:
Whats the problem with Paradox DLC policy?

The problem is, shit like the sword of islam, that is included in a patch (the actual dlc download is 1kb to unlock it), and actually broke your game if you didn't have it purchased and there was a certain condition, your game would crash

And also eu3 complete, not being actually complete they had the nerve to release EVEN MORE dlc after that

I will pirate all paradox games because they are faggots

SoI DLC is actually ~8MB, the stuff that has been added via patch is to ensure multiplayer compatibility with people that do not have the DLC. And that certain condition is when your ruler becomes a Muslim IIRC.
And EU3 Complete contains all expansion that were released up to that point (only Divine Wind came after, and yeah how dare they release more expansions for their games Rolling Eyes). The only DLC released for EU3 are sprite packs which aren't included in the Complete pack and are created by a different company.
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Smikis.




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PostPosted: Thu, 16th Aug 2012 16:24    Post subject:
paradox dlcs are crap, most of them contain sprites, songs, or separate campaigns no one wants, i never get where did idea for campaigns came for grand strategy games, would it be paradox releasing half dlcs as mini campaigns that doesnt effect main game, mods will ignore them , or would it be total war series, adding campaign after campaign.. i dont want campaign , give me big map, lots of units and tech, ok you want new dlc, expand map, addnew units, new tech, new possibilities,
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Overlord123




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PostPosted: Thu, 16th Aug 2012 17:10    Post subject:
Smikis. wrote:
paradox dlcs are crap, most of them contain sprites, songs, or separate campaigns no one wants, i never get where did idea for campaigns came for grand strategy games, would it be paradox releasing half dlcs as mini campaigns that doesnt effect main game, mods will ignore them , or would it be total war series, adding campaign after campaign.. i dont want campaign , give me big map, lots of units and tech, ok you want new dlc, expand map, addnew units, new tech, new possibilities,

Actually most people on the Paradox forums want new start dates for the games. Sprite DLCs are done by a different company and the music is done by their composer, Andreas Waldetoft (what else do you think should he do instead of creating more music?).
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Overlord123




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PostPosted: Thu, 16th Aug 2012 17:17    Post subject:
Shoshomiga wrote:
Smikis. wrote:
paradox dlcs are crap, most of them contain sprites, songs, or separate campaigns no one wants, i never get where did idea for campaigns came for grand strategy games, would it be paradox releasing half dlcs as mini campaigns that doesnt effect main game, mods will ignore them , or would it be total war series, adding campaign after campaign.. i dont want campaign , give me big map, lots of units and tech, ok you want new dlc, expand map, addnew units, new tech, new possibilities,

Thats why you just pirate them

So you don't want them but you pirate them? Sounds logical.
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PostPosted: Thu, 16th Aug 2012 18:11    Post subject:
To me, best things in the dlcs are the new mechanics and if they extend the timeline ie. pushing forward the end date (+ceating events until that date ofc) or start date mover earlier.

All the dates in the middle I could not care less. I've never started at other date than the first possible. Though it's rare to 'finish' a game of EU, I've done it 4 times (out of hundreds of started ones)


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PostPosted: Fri, 17th Aug 2012 01:19    Post subject:
God I love the EU series. This time from what I read, EU4 will feature an updated crusader kings 2 engine (ck2 was 2.0, eu4 will use 2.5) and the whole world is explorable from start. It will feature everything eu3 + expansions and more.

I can't wait!


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PostPosted: Fri, 17th Aug 2012 01:59    Post subject:
dethy wrote:
God I love the EU series. This time from what I read, EU4 will feature an updated crusader kings 2 engine (ck2 was 2.0, eu4 will use 2.5) and the whole world is explorable from start. It will feature everything eu3 + expansions and more.

I can't wait!


first grand strategy game that feels grand? oh we can hope,i still feel all of paradox grand strategy games are horribly bare bone and lacking content beyond belief, feel free to disagree, but when mods adds 5 times content than game and 3-4 expansions all together.. and when vanilla have zero substance or choices... maybe i am just too used to good mods in my strategy games, total war pre empire ( as that killed moding ) , civ 4 and so on
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PostPosted: Fri, 17th Aug 2012 02:17    Post subject:
Overlord123 wrote:
http://www.gamespot.com/events/gamescom-2012/video.html?sid=6391927

Still more than a year. Crying or Very sad

Looks like the provinces are the same as in CK2, which should make it easier to transfer your saves from CK2 to EU4.
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cheat2win




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PostPosted: Fri, 17th Aug 2012 05:27    Post subject:
And after all this years, they still manage to screw up the map.

The border between Portugal and Spain in the Algarve is the river. Spain does not have land beyond the river like most of their games make believe. Evil or Very Mad

Overall their borders suck, but this is so obvious it hurts. Sad
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PostPosted: Fri, 17th Aug 2012 10:08    Post subject:
its a game man, who gives a fuck, there is still in our country at least one village that is portuguese and it is occupied by spain, and thats real life.


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Overlord123




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PostPosted: Fri, 17th Aug 2012 16:39    Post subject:
cheat2win wrote:
Spain does not have land beyond the river like most of their games make believe.

Maybe your government just wants you to believe Spain doesn't. Troll Dad
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PostPosted: Fri, 17th Aug 2012 17:46    Post subject:
Smikis. wrote:
dethy wrote:
God I love the EU series. This time from what I read, EU4 will feature an updated crusader kings 2 engine (ck2 was 2.0, eu4 will use 2.5) and the whole world is explorable from start. It will feature everything eu3 + expansions and more.

I can't wait!


first grand strategy game that feels grand? oh we can hope,i still feel all of paradox grand strategy games are horribly bare bone and lacking content beyond belief, feel free to disagree, but when mods adds 5 times content than game and 3-4 expansions all together.. and when vanilla have zero substance or choices... maybe i am just too used to good mods in my strategy games, total war pre empire ( as that killed moding ) , civ 4 and so on


Be thankful they allow modding, which is pretty much something that many publishers/developers no longer allowing.
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PostPosted: Fri, 17th Aug 2012 18:10    Post subject:
speedgear wrote:
its a game man, who gives a fuck, there is still in our country at least one village that is portuguese and it is occupied by spain, and thats real life.


I do.

Overlord123 wrote:
cheat2win wrote:
Spain does not have land beyond the river like most of their games make believe.

Maybe your government just wants you to believe Spain doesn't. Troll Dad


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