[PS4] Playstation VR
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PostPosted: Thu, 17th Mar 2016 14:53    Post subject: [PS4] Playstation VR
This really deserves it's own thread here. I'm sure there are similar PC Gaming threads covering Oculas Rift etc, but us mere console gamers deserve to get excited too.

Who's excited? I'm definitely looking forward to experiencing VR for the first time Smile I know the resolution on the PSVR isn't as high as the Rift, however people who have used all VR products have said the Sony screen kicks the ass off the others.





Some good articles:

http://www.trustedreviews.com/playstation-vr-review
http://www.kotaku.co.uk/2016/03/16/your-vr-apathy-is-entirely-understandable
http://www.expertreviews.co.uk/games/1403574/playstation-vr-review-hands-on-price-release-date
http://www.techradar.com/reviews/gaming/playstation-vr-1235379/review

And some reasons to be cautious:

http://www.kotaku.co.uk/2016/03/16/how-i-felt-after-an-entire-day-of-vr
http://www.kotaku.co.uk/2016/03/15/exactly-why-im-scared-of-vr

And my biggest concern is the Move controllers not being up to the job - I hope this guy was unlucky (I haven't seen any other reports):

http://www.gizmag.com/playstation-vr-review-hands-on-gdc/42321/

Some game videos:






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PostPosted: Thu, 17th Mar 2016 15:38    Post subject:
I haven't tried PS VR with Moves (or without) yet, but I think something must've been wrong with that guy's setup, because problems he mentiones don't seem connected to VR at all and Move by itself is really accurate. I had two of these for a while - sold them ultimetly when I got bored with what little games they were supported with. But accuracy was never a problem - when calibrated right my character's arms or other... appandages were moving pretty much exactly as they were supposed to. I don't see why it would suddenly perform differently under VR - but, of course, there's no way to tell for sure, until it's here.

I'm certainly interested in trying it. It's not as expensive and I think it just might work well enough for a beginners experience with gaming VR - gaming, because there are cheaper solutions for other stuff. I'm just not sure if PS4 is powerul enough to run anything really immersive in VR. Colorful, childish games and VR demo gimmicks are all fine, but they aren't the reason I'd be inclined to throw another bag of cash at Sony Very Happy I need something with more substance for that. We'll see.
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PostPosted: Thu, 17th Mar 2016 15:56    Post subject:
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I haven't tried PS VR with Moves (or without) yet, but I think something must've been wrong with that guy's setup, because problems he mentiones don't seem connected to VR at all and Move by itself is really accurate. I had two of these for a while - sold them ultimetly when I got bored with what little games they were supported with. But accuracy was never a problem - when calibrated right my character's arms or other... appandages were moving pretty much exactly as they were supposed to. I don't see why it would suddenly perform differently under VR - but, of course, there's no way to tell for sure, until it's here.

I'm certainly interested in trying it. It's not as expensive and I think it just might work well enough for a beginners experience with gaming VR - gaming, because there are cheaper solutions for other stuff. I'm just not sure if PS4 is powerul enough to run anything really immersive in VR. Colorful, childish games and VR demo gimmicks are all fine, but they aren't the reason I'd be inclined to throw another bag of cash at Sony Very Happy I need something with more substance for that. We'll see.


The move feedback is good to hear - at the moment I couldn't find anyone else complaining about this, and plenty of press spent hours playing - so that's a good thing I guess.

With regards to the power of PS4 vs PC hardware, it's a valid point, but then again if you read articles they state that it really isn't as important as you might think. One of the links I provided said they were actually "dumbing down" the visuals as it freaks people out too much. Obviously if it turns out that PS:VR has been left behind in the industry, then I'll just sell my VR and invest in a PC, although I really hope I don't have to do this (I don't really have the space or desire to spend that much money if I don't have to).


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PostPosted: Thu, 17th Mar 2016 16:37    Post subject:
Going to pre-order as soon as I can. Smile

Already have the camera too!


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PostPosted: Thu, 17th Mar 2016 18:16    Post subject:
It's already available to pre-order on Amazon Smile


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PostPosted: Thu, 17th Mar 2016 21:27    Post subject:
Horrordee wrote:
It's already available to pre-order on Amazon Smile


It's not in the US.


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PostPosted: Thu, 17th Mar 2016 21:38    Post subject:
Przepraszam wrote:
Horrordee wrote:
It's already available to pre-order on Amazon Smile


It's not in the US.


Dat's cos Americans don't deserve to get a pre-order, given they basically get it half price anyway Razz


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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Mar 2016 09:16    Post subject:
Still not sure about this but pre-ordered for free from ShopTo just incase I decide to buy Very Happy

http://www.shopto.net/playstation/accessories/playstation-vr/store


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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Mar 2016 10:44    Post subject:
Out of interest, why ShopTo over Amazon?


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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Mar 2016 16:12    Post subject:
But why'd you need 120/90 hz refresh rate if your console cant display more than 30 FPS?
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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Mar 2016 18:28    Post subject:
Actually, Sony will reject a game for VR support if the framerate drops below 60.
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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Mar 2016 19:29    Post subject:
Man I like the new bundle but I already have the camera. Sad

I don't have any move controllers though... hmmm


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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Mar 2016 21:24    Post subject:
sTo0z wrote:
Man I like the new bundle but I already have the camera. Sad

I don't have any move controllers though... hmmm


Which bundle sir?

Also:

http://www.digitalspy.com/gaming/gdc/news/a787073/the-best-playstation-vr-game-has-removed-its-best-bit-so-you-wont-get-sick-but-youll-want-it-back/

http://www.digitalspy.com/gaming/gdc/news/a787274/playstation-vr-chief-oculus-thought-big-bad-sony-would-kill-vr/


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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Mar 2016 21:42    Post subject:
sTo0z wrote:
Man I like the new bundle but I already have the camera. Sad

I don't have any move controllers though... hmmm


Same here. Wrrrrr..

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I think Bundle is only available to US.


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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Mar 2016 22:17    Post subject:
Horrordee wrote:
Out of interest, why ShopTo over Amazon?


To be honest I thought it was because most places would be requiring a deposit and Shopto were not. And to be honest I didn't check anywhere else. So do Amazon not require a deposit either?


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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Mar 2016 23:01    Post subject:
Don't know mate. I just preordered- they don't usually charge for a preorder so they better not have taken any money. I went with them because they handled the PS4 launch well- custom page to "upgrade my preorder" to one of the bundles which were announced later on.

I pre ordered the day after the announcement though, hope I still get day 1!


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PostPosted: Sat, 19th Mar 2016 21:13    Post subject:
Sony’s Shuhei Yoshida Addresses Issues of PlayStation VR and their Solutions; Quotes Sword Art Online - Video Games

https://apple.news/A8GzdRleQPKyExQPdC-Yuqg


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PostPosted: Mon, 21st Mar 2016 08:26    Post subject:
Another worrying article on the move controllers:


http://www.gizmag.com/best-vr-headset-gdc-2016/42377/


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PostPosted: Mon, 21st Mar 2016 11:37    Post subject:
It's the same source though, I think they've just reused their previous thoughts in a new article.
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PostPosted: Mon, 21st Mar 2016 12:15    Post subject:
Ha good spot


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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd Mar 2016 17:01    Post subject:
Pre-ordered the damn launch bundle, I'll figure out something to do with the extra camera... Razz

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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd Mar 2016 17:35    Post subject:
sTo0z wrote:
Pre-ordered the damn launch bundle, I'll figure out something to do with the extra camera... Razz

Bring on October!



Me too.

Next Tuesday they will offer it without bundle.


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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd Mar 2016 17:39    Post subject:
Horrordee wrote:
I know the resolution on the PSVR isn't as high as the Rift, however people who have used all VR products have said the Sony screen kicks the ass off the others.

I think you may have misread that.

Sony's display has less screendoor than the DK2, but not the CV1 or Vive. It doesn't "kick the ass" of the others other than its higher refresh rate. Quite the contrary, people are saying that the FoV (10 degrees less than the other 2) is quite noticeable. Screendoor is similar between all 3; PSVR is a bit different because it uses a sub-pixel array so it's less pronounced (vaguer, if you will).

Horrordee wrote:
With regards to the power of PS4 vs PC hardware, it's a valid point, but then again if you read articles they state that it really isn't as important as you might think. One of the links I provided said they were actually "dumbing down" the visuals as it freaks people out too much. Obviously if it turns out that PS:VR has been left behind in the industry, then I'll just sell my VR and invest in a PC, although I really hope I don't have to do this (I don't really have the space or desire to spend that much money if I don't have to).

That part about lowering visual fidelity because it "freaks people out" is nonsense Razz

If anything, higher fidelity is desired. When I had the DK2, I would've loved for ETS to look better than it does for example, because there are things that do almost stand out as too "fake".


I think PSVR will still be great, but it's definitely behind the other 2 on all fronts. But the price matches that. Then again, all 3 are priced a lot higher than I'd hoped.
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PostPosted: Sat, 26th Mar 2016 04:46    Post subject:
http://www.polygon.com/2016/3/15/11241782/playstation-vr-cinematic-mode

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The system also has a cinematic mode, which "lets users enjoy a variety of content in a large virtual screen while wearing the headset," the press release stated. "Supported content for the Cinematic mode includes standard PS4 games and videos as well as variety of PS4 features including Share Play and Live from PlayStation. Users will also be able to enjoy 360 degrees photos and videos that are captured by devices such as omnidirectional cameras on PS VR via PS4 Media Player, which will let them feel as if they are physically inside the captured scene."

How big will the screen look? That's up to you, but Sony gives some idea. "Users can enjoy content on a virtual screen up to 225 inches (5 meters in width) at a distance of 2.5 meters," the release explains. "The size of the screen will feel different depending on individual users."

The cinematic mode will allow you to play existing PS4 games and use video features, and the player will be able to select small, medium or large sizes for the virtual screen. We were able to try the feature during Sony's event, and the software places the viewer in a black space watching a floating screen; there is no surrounding environment. Nearly all UI elements of the PlayStation 4 will function in this mode, although Sony didn't detail which features wouldn't be available.


Wow thats truly awesome.


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PostPosted: Sat, 26th Mar 2016 09:05    Post subject:
Weren't you expecting that? I was, but maybe i had/have unrealistic expectations.

Certainly the question will be whether or not it's more enjoyable than watching on a high res to screen at a distance?


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PostPosted: Sat, 26th Mar 2016 15:39    Post subject:
Horrordee wrote:
Weren't you expecting that? I was, but maybe i had/have unrealistic expectations.

Certainly the question will be whether or not it's more enjoyable than watching on a high res to screen at a distance?


I kinda was but Id never seen anything confirmed about it until I read that article from 11 days ago last night lol. It will be shame if I prefer my TV to a virtual screen to play games though lol. I guess time will tell.


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PostPosted: Sat, 26th Mar 2016 18:21    Post subject:
I'm skeptical about the early vr tech..I've owned the gearvr and sold it after the initial wow factor. I've had an hour with the vive and whilst the tech is very impressive I was underwhelmed with the resolution, the cost and the amount of space it looks like you need to get the most out of it..basically it looked to me you would need a dedicated room for the sensors and wires(that need to be ceiling mounted by all accounts to stop you tripping over them..on the demo the guy was behind me holying them so I could walk freely)
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PostPosted: Sat, 26th Mar 2016 18:35    Post subject:
I guess I never really got to experience the true initial wow, so I'm still excited. I had a mediocre PC running the first dev unit of Oculus Rift, so I couldn't experience much... Wink Just enough to get a taste and be excited.

So I'm ready for the next step!


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Fair play I'd your willing to dig deep ..around 2k for an average vr PC and vive ..not for me
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