Streaming devices: sticks, cubes, boxes
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PostPosted: Sun, 16th Apr 2023 11:04    Post subject: Streaming devices: sticks, cubes, boxes
Edit: Changed topic to see above. I want to make the thread broader.
I have some new experiences.


I currently have the original Chromecast device. I often use it to cast streams (Twitch, Eurosport, F1.tv, etc.) from my smartphone to my PC monitor, that I basically use as TV (poormans setup).

Thing is with the original Chromecast there is no way of tweaking resolution and fps. It will just upscale to the max setting of the monitor (4k at 60 fps). Undesirable IMO, I want a 1080p stream with 25 fps to play with original resolution and with 25 or 50 fps (monitor can handle it), just to save some power consumption.

LOL, I guess this is a white man's problem.

Anyway after some reading CC 4k better picture and audio I belief? And FS 4k Max has better (edit: and more) apps?

Edit: Audio: 2.0 speakers, 10 W RMS, enough to annoy my neighbours. Audio quality is not a real issue here.

Edot2: I also have a mediabox that can perfectly adapt to the source, like for example playing a primevideo movie at 4k and 24 fps. I am kinda puzzled here about the 24 fps (source bluray?). I thought DVD for PAL sped the movie frame rate up to 25? The mediabox doesn't have a lot of app support unfortunately.


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PostPosted: Sun, 16th Apr 2023 13:45    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Apr 2023 11:09    Post subject:
If you want a one and done get the shield. I bought mine in 17 and it’s been amazing and still getting updates. Def get the new one as they added some neat ai features and it just supports everything.

Runs android tv. Plenty of ways to easily side load apps. I use it for Plex, iptv and steam link. Got an adfree hacked YouTube app that took like 5 minutes to install.

It’s pricey but it’s awesome. After I got mine friends and family ditched their chromes and first stop, roku whatever because it just works with no bullshit


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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Apr 2023 13:33    Post subject:
@SpykeZ Does it allow preserving framerate and content type (e.g., pay 24fps HDR content in 24hz HDR, while 60fps 720p in 60hz 720p SDR)?
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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Apr 2023 17:13    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Apr 2023 17:35    Post subject:
maybe i understand wrong but CCGTV does automatic frame rate matching since android 12 upgrade

the api is enabled it's just that commercial apps didnt use it in the past. Kodi did/does though.

so if you're fine with using Kodi then i can recommend the device. so far it has played everything i have thrown at it including high bitrate 4k DV x265 content.

downsides are small memory and storage and no usb (w/o additional hardware)
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PostPosted: Sun, 30th Apr 2023 17:50    Post subject:
I bought the CC4k:



I can always buy the other one.
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pho08




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PostPosted: Sat, 23rd Dec 2023 22:49    Post subject:
just switched from ccgtv to 4k max gen 2. for 30 bucks i can recommend it

apart from wifi 6 this is the first of those low-budget/profile sticks to my knowledge that does True-HD + DTS-MA passthrough. works like a charm w kodi
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PostPosted: Sun, 24th Dec 2023 00:57    Post subject:
fire stick (on sale) or nothing
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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Dec 2023 16:31    Post subject:
Bought 2x CCwGTV a while ago, they work fine, although they're not what you call fast. The remote, however, is absolute garbage. It's the flimsiest of the flimsiest thing with unlogical control placement, so make sure your TV supports CEC so you can use TV remote. I'm now using a Google TV box from ISP, which obviously isn't free, but has a decent remote and feels at least 10x faster than the CCwGTV.


PC: Yes. Console: No.
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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Dec 2023 17:32    Post subject:
if you have an LG TV and root the webOS you can freely remap buttons on the magic remote

you can even set it up to fire up home assistant actions w REST api
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PostPosted: Wed, 26th Jun 2024 10:41    Post subject:
Chromecast works fine here, except for the screensaver. Every 5 minutes the screensaver activates, showing pictures of an unknown Dutch family. Pretty sure they are Dutch. There is a picture with mum and dad with the Dutch flag painted on their cheeks. And there is one picture with the Rotterdam Willemsbrug in the background. There is a also a picture with a naked toddler on the beach. Google, really?

To change the screensaver I need a code that was printed on the original packaging, that is the 1st thing I toss. Okay I bought the Firestick 4k Max, audio and video are clearly worse. Meanwhile I gave the Chromecast a factory reset, so I can dump it later as a small electronic garbage at the local shopping mall. Than I decided the audio and video of the Firestick are too worse, so I hooked up the Chromecast again, and guess what? The screensaver got changed to Google nature pictures and such.

Still deciding if I should be happy or angry.
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PostPosted: Wed, 26th Jun 2024 10:52    Post subject:
We need new Chromecast 4k model.


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Your personal opinions != the rest of the forum
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PostPosted: Wed, 26th Jun 2024 13:23    Post subject:
I have the 4k model.
Still wondering why Amazon can't a more decent stick.
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PostPosted: Thu, 27th Jun 2024 14:38    Post subject:
Planning on getting the Fire Cube Gen 3 when Prime days hit, afaik they added DTS:X support recently so it should be able to do anything now.
I also see Apple TV recommended quite often. Nvidia Shield was great when it came out but now appears to be abandoned.
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PostPosted: Thu, 27th Jun 2024 22:20    Post subject:
iconized wrote:
Still wondering why Amazon can't a more decent stick.

That’s what she said Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri, 28th Jun 2024 09:14    Post subject:
Shocktrooper wrote:
Planning on getting the Fire Cube Gen 3 when Prime days hit, afaik they added DTS:X support recently so it should be able to do anything now.
I also see Apple TV recommended quite often. Nvidia Shield was great when it came out but now appears to be abandoned.


I just started really getting into collecting 4K digital movies and for the most part, AppleTV seems to be a must just because many of the films that have iTunes Extras like the alternate versions of the film as a free bonus will only play on a real Apple device. I am hoping to see a deal on one soon but do kind of want to wait till the next version comes out since there were rumors and many thought it was going to be announced at the Apple Conference a few weeks ago so it probably is not far off.
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PostPosted: Fri, 28th Jun 2024 10:14    Post subject:
0wen wrote:


I just started really getting into collecting 4K digital movies and for the most part, AppleTV seems to be a must just because many of the films that have iTunes Extras like the alternate versions of the film as a free bonus will only play on a real Apple device. I am hoping to see a deal on one soon but do kind of want to wait till the next version comes out since there were rumors and many thought it was going to be announced at the Apple Conference a few weeks ago so it probably is not far off.


Interesting they have so many extras. But I guess you have to pay for these movies anyway.
But when watching mainly pirated movies (with an atmos soundbar that supports all audio formats), you think it's better to go for Apple TV or Fire Cube?
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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Jul 2024 11:55    Post subject:
Shocktrooper wrote:
0wen wrote:


I just started really getting into collecting 4K digital movies and for the most part, AppleTV seems to be a must just because many of the films that have iTunes Extras like the alternate versions of the film as a free bonus will only play on a real Apple device. I am hoping to see a deal on one soon but do kind of want to wait till the next version comes out since there were rumors and many thought it was going to be announced at the Apple Conference a few weeks ago so it probably is not far off.


Interesting they have so many extras. But I guess you have to pay for these movies anyway.
But when watching mainly pirated movies (with an atmos soundbar that supports all audio formats), you think it's better to go for Apple TV or Fire Cube?


The way Apple does their iTunes Extras on the movies is nice if you can actually view them. I just picked up the 4K Apocalypse Now Final Cut and it has the Theatrical and Redux versions as iTunes Extras along with a lot of documentaries and interviews.

I have not really looked into the ability to play my own mkv stuff on the Firestick 4K I currently have or the FireTV apps on my TV. I just have found some of the various different digital code selling groups on reddit, facebook and the blu-ray.com forums where people are selling their 4K codes from the 4K UHD movie purchases cheap, so I am getting a lot of these 4K movies for $1-$4 each film.

When I only had the Firestick 4K, I was planning to get the Firecube since it is the best Amazon streaming device plus it has the ability to be wired if you wifi is not the best. But since I got my TV that has all the FireTV stuff built in, I have now been looking into the AppleTV device just for all the iTunes Extras on these films I am buying. In general, if you are streaming digital movies most say AppleTV or MoviesAnywhere apps seem to have the best bit rate with Vudu being much lower so that was why I decided to make iTunes my main platform for my movie collection.
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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Jul 2024 23:18    Post subject:


12 days left, hope the fire cube goes below €110 again
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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Jul 2024 12:12    Post subject:
Fire Cube just went down to 99€ (new historic low) , ordered it
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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd Apr 2025 02:12    Post subject:
Changed topic to, see the original post. I want to make the thread broader.
I have some new experiences.


My CC 4k is still operating fine, the Fire Stick 4k I had to toss. It started to produce artefacts, like flickering and distortions of the picture.

Meanwhile I took a new 4k subscription to F1 TV for a month (I am hooked to Formula 1), and the only devices supporting that are either Roku 4k or Apple TV 4k.
https://support.formula1.com/s/article/Technical-Features-Limitations-on-Devices
Both closed systems. Bastards!

A couple of days ago I bought the Roku 4k in the UK. I used to think I was smart. These days I r idiot. With the extra VAT it costed more than buying it here in Nl. And then the (non portable?) Roku stick is region locked, so no apps like Prime Video, HBO Max, Disney Plus and F1 TV for me. Sad I damaged the packaged while unboxing, and out of frustration I tossed it. Another 70 € wasted.

Apple TV 4k or Roku 4k?

Edit: Take a look at the price differences between USA and Europe without tariffs in place yet:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/s?k=roku+4k
https://www.amazon.nl/s?k=roku+4k
https://www.amazon.com/s?k=roku+4k
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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd Apr 2025 22:17    Post subject:
That looks like a nice successor of Chromecast 4k, but it won't work for streaming F1 in 4k:
https://support.formula1.com/s/article/Technical-Features-Limitations-on-Devices

Edit: According to above link multiview in HD is possible on a Chrome webbrowser.
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