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 Posted: Tue, 19th Apr 2005 13:26 Post subject: What protection would you choose as the customer? (VOTING) |
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The question is simple:
WHAT PROTECTION WOULD YOU CHOOSE IF YOU WERE ALLOWED TO?
I'm assuming the situation when a publisher would allow you to choose the type of protection.
I was thrown out of college for cheating on the metaphysics exam; I looked into the soul of the boy next to me.
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| Posted: Tue, 19th Apr 2005 14:02 Post subject: |
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New protection.
I feel the need of new protection development. It should be fast, strong and compatible, without any Starforce like delays.
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kosmiq
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| Posted: Tue, 19th Apr 2005 15:06 Post subject: |
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I think that Safedisc is the one, not because of the fact that it is the most easy to crack of them... More because of the fact that it feels clean. No weird Starforce drivers, no SecuROM v7 thingie coming with game patches and so on...
Behold his GLORY! Bow for the technical master!
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| Posted: Tue, 19th Apr 2005 15:56 Post subject: |
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Three funny people voted on Starforce but didn't even explain the decision. Anynone can explain why he would choose this protection?
I was thrown out of college for cheating on the metaphysics exam; I looked into the soul of the boy next to me.
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| Posted: Tue, 19th Apr 2005 16:15 Post subject: |
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I would chose for TAGES if I was a fan of the game. TAGES is a little bit like Starforce 3 because it protects more than the .exe and encryps some game files with protection in it. Still you can make a clone? And no drivers.
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| Posted: Tue, 19th Apr 2005 17:09 Post subject: |
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some clever lad (cracker i mean) should get his head and bring us new handy protection without those drivers and all that crap
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| Posted: Tue, 19th Apr 2005 19:36 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Wed, 20th Apr 2005 00:15 Post subject: Starforce |
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Seriously, if I was a developer, and I didn't want people playing my game without paying for it, I would use starforce.
Sure, it might be able to be gotten around by using SF Nightmare, or a USB drive, or unplugging stuff. So yes, maybe a couple hundred or a thousand people might go through all that bullshit (myself included). But that seems better to me than using something like safedisc or securrom that usually gets cracked before the game is even released and is out on torrent sites, IRC, and newsgroups ready for millions to download and play with no hassles.
I've installed and uninstalled Splinter Cell 3 a couple times now, and haven't had any issues with Starforce fucking up my computer. And when I finally got the USB thing to work, the game starts up as fast as any other. Seems like Starforce would be the way to go for a developer.
And what about Half Life 2's protection? That one seemed like it was a hassle to get around, running a Steam emulator and all that stuff. (never dealt with it cause I actually bought the game).
It seems like the simple days of
Install
Copy crack from /crack directory
play
Are coming to an end.
I'm not saying "Oh noes, the scene is going to die!" Im just saying you have to be a little more computer literate to get the games to work nowadays.
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| Posted: Wed, 20th Apr 2005 00:41 Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Seriously, if I was a developer, and I didn't want people playing my game without paying for it, I would use starforce. |
Luckily you aren't.
Thank you for your voice but this poll is targetted to customers, not developers. We already know what's the main point for developers and publishers. For money they can do everything, even choose the less compatible protection for higher financial incomings.
Look at the joke. 5 voices for Starforce - do you think they're real? Then why no one can explain his choice? I really would like to see at least single honest vote for Starforce and serious explaination (without developers stories).
BTW: to stand objective I didn't vote myself. Now I understand it was pointelss.
I was thrown out of college for cheating on the metaphysics exam; I looked into the soul of the boy next to me.
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| Posted: Wed, 20th Apr 2005 02:19 Post subject: none |
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Okay, I misread the question
If I "actually" bought a game, I would like for them to use starforce, because if more people give up on trying to get a downloaded mdf to work and just go buy the damn thing, they will be making more money to spend on the next game they make. Hopefully, they would spend it on more talented writers and content creators, not just fancy graphics and such. (wishful thinking, I know) And to be completley naive, I could say that since they are getting more money from bought copies, the next games could be priced lower. So as a paying customer, to me this means a better game at a lower price.
But as a loyal warez customer, I say no protection, since there will always be a way to get around it, one way or another. Why spend money on futility? (although I'm still stumped on how to get Trackmania Sunrise to work)
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| Posted: Wed, 20th Apr 2005 09:33 Post subject: |
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deptalon
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deptalon
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| Posted: Wed, 20th Apr 2005 13:28 Post subject: |
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they dont install hardware drivers.
who knows what starforce puts in there hardware driver you dont know i dont know.
It's installing something you dont want
no one needs a hardware driver.
Proud Member of the Nforce communitee *shrugs*
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| Posted: Wed, 20th Apr 2005 16:54 Post subject: |
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| deptalon wrote: | they dont install hardware drivers.
who knows what starforce puts in there hardware driver you dont know i dont know.
It's installing something you dont want
no one needs a hardware driver. |
I apologise, obviously secdrv.sys from Macrovision isn't a driver, though it's sitting in my \drivers directory, and is a .sys extension, and is loaded as a hidden device driver.
The UAService installed to PC for run at startup as part of Securom leaves a little to be desired as well.
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| Posted: Sat, 23rd Apr 2005 23:41 Post subject: |
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what retarded morons voted for starcrap and don't want to appear with their fancy opinion??
consider starcrap votes = 0
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HubU
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| Posted: Sun, 24th Apr 2005 00:32 Post subject: |
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Securom, that disallow "simple" cloning, while being easily crackable.
I know that my game would be cracked, so I wouldnt like to take a protection that makes my game mess with some comp...
AND I feel like I don't wanna buy any SF3-protected games. Dev's think that they are so secure behind this crap, and I don't wanna give my money to facist protection makers :O
"Music washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life." ~Berthold Auerbach
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| Posted: Sun, 24th Apr 2005 00:56 Post subject: |
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| Z0Bman wrote: | Securom, that "simple" cloning, while being easily crackable.
I know that my game would be cracked, so I wouldnt like to take a protection that makes my game mess with some comp...
AND I feel like I don't wanna buy any SF3-protected games. Dev's think that they are so secure behind this crap, and I don't wanna give my money to facist protection makers :O |
SecuRom would be my choice also... I've got many SF3 protected games... But I don't want to install them because of this shitty protection... Unfortunatelly I have to install these games to write reviews... but after I write it... the game and SF3 fly out of my PC... I just don't trust SF3... It screwed my PC more than once...
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| Posted: Sun, 24th Apr 2005 10:17 Post subject: |
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| CableMunkeh wrote: | | I am pro copy protection as it's a vital part of the industry, and anti anyone who can't respect that SF3 is actually an extremely clever and skillful piece of coding. Albeit not without faults which was why I mentioned wanting to see development of a new protection system. |
Skillful piece of coding ? That crap acts like a virus, and causes too much problem for a problem. Treating the customer as a criminal is illegal. This kind of protection must die.
"Music washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life." ~Berthold Auerbach
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| Posted: Sun, 24th Apr 2005 11:24 Post subject: |
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I too don't like SF3, I don't trust their software... and I had problems with it... But I think that many ppl bitch about SF3 just because it does what it's suppose to do (and a little more) -> protect software... When SF3 gets cracked, and I mean not another game... but simply SF3... ppl will stop bitchin...
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| Posted: Sun, 24th Apr 2005 21:48 Post subject: |
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Please, can some moderator stop the voting? Some Starforce friend (dev?) try to make this thread a joke by voting on SF using many accounts. By the way, it's nice to know they're reading such forums.
Thanks.
I was thrown out of college for cheating on the metaphysics exam; I looked into the soul of the boy next to me.
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| Posted: Sun, 24th Apr 2005 21:56 Post subject: |
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i would vote for serial only. i think that some games need online protection without it being exploited.
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Seron
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| Posted: Sun, 24th Apr 2005 22:13 Post subject: |
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as a developer - Starforce.
as a player - dont care as long as it's crackable.
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HubU
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