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 Posted: Sat, 30th Apr 2005 05:29 Post subject: Lawsuit settled in valves favour |
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Valve Software and Vivendi Universal Games today announced the settlement of a pending federal court lawsuit filed by Valve in August 2002. "The settlement provides for the dismissal of all claims and counterclaims. Under the settlement agreement, VU Games will cease distribution of retail packaged versions of Valve's games, including Half-Life, Half-Life 2, Counter-Strike, Counter-Strike: Condition Zero and Counter-Strike: Source, effective August 31, 2005. Additionally, VU Games has notified distributors and cyber cafes that were licensed by VU Games that only Valve is authorized to distribute Valve games to cyber cafés and grant cyber café licenses"
Looks like steam will be the only option soon, if you want a valve game. 
"Techniclly speaking, Beta-Manboi didnt inject Burberry_Massi with Benz, he injected him with liquid that had air bubbles in it, which caused benz." - House M.D
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| Posted: Sat, 30th Apr 2005 11:02 Post subject: |
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Why would you think they would do that?
What would they have to gain from that...it would be quite possibly the worst move they could make as company trying to make it on their own. Talk about shooting yourself down.
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MAD_MAX333
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| Posted: Sat, 30th Apr 2005 11:15 Post subject: |
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you spent way too much time writting that up
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Jenni
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| Posted: Sat, 30th Apr 2005 12:19 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sat, 30th Apr 2005 12:28 Post subject: |
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ahghhhhhh, its teh skynet taking over, ruuuuun!
/me runs to the bomb-shelter singing "duck and cover"
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| Posted: Sat, 30th Apr 2005 13:30 Post subject: |
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I think they'll just find a new publisher for retail packs, don't you?
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Jenni
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| Posted: Sat, 30th Apr 2005 15:02 Post subject: |
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Well if they don't anyone without a credit card are screwed for future releases.
Personally I reckon abe and his fat bastard mates are a bunch of greedy twats, but hey thats my opinion.
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| Posted: Sat, 30th Apr 2005 17:17 Post subject: |
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| outtanames wrote: | | I think they'll just find a new publisher for retail packs, don't you? |
I'm not sure. You've seen how much they've been pushing the use of steam, and this way they get the profits directly.
Doesn't affect me really, but it's nice to have a retail box sometimes.
"Techniclly speaking, Beta-Manboi didnt inject Burberry_Massi with Benz, he injected him with liquid that had air bubbles in it, which caused benz." - House M.D
"Faith without logic is the same as knowledge without understanding; meaningless"
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| Posted: Sat, 30th Apr 2005 17:34 Post subject: |
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lets hope when if they're getting a new publisher, it won't be EA...
better be Activision or something..
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| Posted: Sat, 30th Apr 2005 17:41 Post subject: |
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| Jenni wrote: | Well if they don't anyone without a credit card are screwed for future releases.
Personally I reckon abe and his fat bastard mates are a bunch of greedy twats, but hey thats my opinion. |
Actually I think Valve is screwed, there not get the money which is all that matters. And I hope they do get screwed.
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| Posted: Sat, 30th Apr 2005 18:24 Post subject: |
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A settlement is far different from "winning"
I am the lead developer for StarForce3.
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| Posted: Sat, 30th Apr 2005 18:34 Post subject: |
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| SigmaHex wrote: | | A settlement is far different from "winning" |
but if you read the terms of the settlement you understand that the only winner here is valve, vivendi stops to sell games in stores, previous cyber cafè license by vivendi are cancelled etc etc
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| Posted: Sat, 30th Apr 2005 19:01 Post subject: |
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| whackazog wrote: | | Jenni wrote: | Well if they don't anyone without a credit card are screwed for future releases.
Personally I reckon abe and his fat bastard mates are a bunch of greedy twats, but hey thats my opinion. |
Actually I think Valve is screwed, there not get the money which is all that matters. And I hope they do get screwed. |
Not true, getting the money directly through steam is far more profitable for the developer, rather then having a publisher take a major slice at retail.
It all depends really on whether they keep churning out quality titles. But this is what Valve wanted, so they must know what they're doing.
"Techniclly speaking, Beta-Manboi didnt inject Burberry_Massi with Benz, he injected him with liquid that had air bubbles in it, which caused benz." - House M.D
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| Posted: Sat, 30th Apr 2005 19:18 Post subject: |
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Yea with steam valve are gettin like 80% of the profit, the other 20% is used on bw. By using shops etc. i bet they see no more than 40% after all the charges / shipping / advertising.
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| Posted: Sat, 30th Apr 2005 19:26 Post subject: |
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| Selt wrote: | | SigmaHex wrote: | | A settlement is far different from "winning" |
but if you read the terms of the settlement you understand that the only winner here is valve, vivendi stops to sell games in stores, previous cyber cafè license by vivendi are cancelled etc etc |
Do I need to repeat myself? settling out of court is not the same as winning in court.
I am the lead developer for StarForce3.
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| Posted: Sat, 30th Apr 2005 19:27 Post subject: |
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13% is a closer figure. Yet only 0.6% is lost to Piracy using Steam. Compared to a normal system thats closer to 11% lost to people copying their software is fantastic. Expect more Steam type systems.
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| Posted: Sat, 30th Apr 2005 19:42 Post subject: |
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| SigmaHex wrote: | | Selt wrote: | | SigmaHex wrote: | | A settlement is far different from "winning" |
but if you read the terms of the settlement you understand that the only winner here is valve, vivendi stops to sell games in stores, previous cyber cafè license by vivendi are cancelled etc etc |
Do I need to repeat myself? settling out of court is not the same as winning in court. |
do i need to repeat MYself? the word "win" is not used only for courts...
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| Posted: Sat, 30th Apr 2005 20:17 Post subject: |
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Unless you're a solicitor.
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| Posted: Sat, 30th Apr 2005 20:40 Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | 13% is a closer figure. Yet only 0.6% is lost to Piracy using Steam. Compared to a normal system thats closer to 11% lost to people copying their software is fantastic. Expect more Steam type systems. |
that probally cause everyone wanted the game and didn't want to wait for a release group to put it out. not having boxes on the shelves would end up hurting them more in the end unless they change the service were you can send them a moneyorder or something
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| Posted: Sat, 30th Apr 2005 20:55 Post subject: |
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| SigmaHex wrote: | | Selt wrote: | | SigmaHex wrote: | | A settlement is far different from "winning" |
but if you read the terms of the settlement you understand that the only winner here is valve, vivendi stops to sell games in stores, previous cyber cafè license by vivendi are cancelled etc etc |
Do I need to repeat myself? settling out of court is not the same as winning in court. |
There, i've changed the thread title, you can stop whinging now.
"Techniclly speaking, Beta-Manboi didnt inject Burberry_Massi with Benz, he injected him with liquid that had air bubbles in it, which caused benz." - House M.D
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| Posted: Sat, 30th Apr 2005 21:19 Post subject: |
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| pegisys wrote: | | Quote: | | 13% is a closer figure. Yet only 0.6% is lost to Piracy using Steam. Compared to a normal system thats closer to 11% lost to people copying their software is fantastic. Expect more Steam type systems. |
that probally cause everyone wanted the game and didn't want to wait for a release group to put it out. not having boxes on the shelves would end up hurting them more in the end unless they change the service were you can send them a moneyorder or something |
This is a good point, there were a lot of loyal fans such as myself who pre-ordered blindly. |
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| Posted: Sat, 30th Apr 2005 21:52 Post subject: |
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| Ispep wrote: | | pegisys wrote: | | Quote: | | 13% is a closer figure. Yet only 0.6% is lost to Piracy using Steam. Compared to a normal system thats closer to 11% lost to people copying their software is fantastic. Expect more Steam type systems. |
that probally cause everyone wanted the game and didn't want to wait for a release group to put it out. not having boxes on the shelves would end up hurting them more in the end unless they change the service were you can send them a moneyorder or something |
This is a good point, there were a lot of loyal fans such as myself who pre-ordered blindly. |
You say that as if the game wasn't fantastic.
"Techniclly speaking, Beta-Manboi didnt inject Burberry_Massi with Benz, he injected him with liquid that had air bubbles in it, which caused benz." - House M.D
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| Posted: Sat, 30th Apr 2005 21:57 Post subject: |
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That depends on whether you read between the lines or not. Taken literally it just means as a fan I pre-ordered blindly. But I'll concede I was less than amazed at the end result. Functionary is how I would describe it - instead of pushing the boundaries like Half Life originally did, the sequel played ball within them and suffered as a result in my opinion.
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| Posted: Sat, 30th Apr 2005 22:03 Post subject: |
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I've never seen such interaction with a game world though, thats what really impressed me. The fact that all the puzzles could be solved by thinking logically and actually felt like something you might encounter in the real world was quite revolutionary for me.
"Techniclly speaking, Beta-Manboi didnt inject Burberry_Massi with Benz, he injected him with liquid that had air bubbles in it, which caused benz." - House M.D
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| Posted: Sat, 30th Apr 2005 22:11 Post subject: |
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i don't see how hl "pushed the boundaries" though. Really it wasn't anything new it was just amazingly put together.
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| Posted: Sat, 30th Apr 2005 23:17 Post subject: |
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If Valve plan on selling all their games exclusively via Steam, they better lower the prices.
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| Posted: Sat, 30th Apr 2005 23:40 Post subject: |
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| bnf wrote: | | If Valve plan on selling all their games exclusively via Steam, they better lower the prices. |
Why? They'll just keep selling them for similar prices to what they do now via steam.
"Techniclly speaking, Beta-Manboi didnt inject Burberry_Massi with Benz, he injected him with liquid that had air bubbles in it, which caused benz." - House M.D
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| Posted: Sun, 1st May 2005 00:01 Post subject: |
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| AnimalMother wrote: | | bnf wrote: | | If Valve plan on selling all their games exclusively via Steam, they better lower the prices. |
Why? They'll just keep selling them for similar prices to what they do now via steam. |
Because I won't buy a game for full price if I don't get something to hold in my hands.
If Valve intend to cut out the publisher and have their own profit margins rocket into the sky, they might as well have the decency to pass some of that along to their customers.
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