Lately iv been wondering what a human life is worth...
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deelix
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PostPosted: Fri, 5th Aug 2016 22:10    Post subject: Lately iv been wondering what a human life is worth...
Scandinavia is extremely far left when it comes to prison as most of you know. Even tho the majority of people actually want sentences towards the US system with crimes like murder, child abuse and rape. "We"do not believe in punishment, but rehabilitation. That every single person can be rehabilitated and sent out to the society again (exceptions ABB, at least if fucking hope so!)

The reason im writing this is because im pretty much in shock finding out the step father who killed (make that tortured ) his 8 year old step son to death is free, and have been for a couple of years. The kid was afraid a long time before he was killed, probably from different types of abuse. The way he was found killed was with cloth in his mouth.

He got 8 years in jail, think he served 3,5 years. Thats right, he is shopping at the local store 15-20 minutes from me. If I say what I really want to id probably get 6 months in jail myself... this fucking country. A lot of people have been wanting to... end his life, but I guess they figure they will probably end up serving more time. Its so fucked up :'(

There is no english wiki page, but here is the Norwegian, called the Christoffer case.
https://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christoffer-saken


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PostPosted: Fri, 5th Aug 2016 22:19    Post subject:
fuck Sad And people even seem to vandalize the boy's grave?! Is that also common place? Sad


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PostPosted: Fri, 5th Aug 2016 22:27    Post subject:
Just get rid of him quietly Dexter. Remember to use bags.

And yes that's a sad reality in some countries. Life-sentence should be a minimum thing for some cases.
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PostPosted: Fri, 5th Aug 2016 23:06    Post subject:
To me its insane that copyright infringement can get you more years than some real nasty shit around here.
I do believe in rehabilitation for the majority, just that many countries are not doing a proper job on it (Norway being one of the better ones I'd say). There are cases where I'd argue for a death penalty though.


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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Aug 2016 00:10    Post subject:
Disgusting. The Netherlands is not so different, the rechtsstaat protects the criminals.


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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Aug 2016 01:16    Post subject:
Nalo wrote:
So progressive that justice is forfeited Philosopheraptor

Too much progressive ends up being regressive. Evil or Very Mad

So much ideology that you let fiends back into society. What if he meets a woman? How will she know who he is? And not marry him or get pregnant or even touch him? What if she has a daughter from a previous relationship?

Is it fair for people to unknowingly interact with this person?
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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Aug 2016 02:43    Post subject:
I remember that case Sad


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Lopin18




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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Aug 2016 03:02    Post subject:
I dont share that idea at all, rehabilitation my ass, how the fuck does a grown man torture and kill a little kid and be free in 3 years. No amount of positivity about rehabilitation and regret can fucking erase the fact that a grown ass man lost complete humane mindset and did what he did. FUCK THAT, jail for life, you wasted someone's life, why should you EVER get any decent treatment, specially since he was in his full preparation of how fucking insane and wrong his act was.
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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Aug 2016 03:10    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Aug 2016 10:13    Post subject:
TBH it should be possible in this society, to do the same crime to someone that he did. Let rapers get raped, murders murderered etc.

What is the saying called? Eye for eye?

But nope. In Germoney for example, rapers and murderers get less punishment than someone who did piracy or tax evasion. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Aug 2016 11:23    Post subject:
Bob Barnsen wrote:
TBH it should be possible in this society, to do the same crime to someone that he did. Let rapers get raped, murders murderered etc.

What is the saying called? Eye for eye?

But nope. In Germoney for example, rapers and murderers get less punishment than someone who did piracy or tax evasion. Rolling Eyes


Doesn't the man who murders a murderer become a murderer as well? Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Aug 2016 11:48    Post subject:
VGAdeadcafe wrote:
Nalo wrote:
So progressive that justice is forfeited Philosopheraptor

Too much progressive ends up being regressive. Evil or Very Mad

So much ideology that you let fiends back into society. What if he meets a woman? How will she know who he is? And not marry him or get pregnant or even touch him? What if she has a daughter from a previous relationship?

Is it fair for people to unknowingly interact with this person?
When the case hit trial the mother was pregnant with his kid. So now they have a proper child they can love... No idea if they still are together or if they was allowed to keep the baby, but back then she stood by him 100%, also why she got 1,5 years suspended sentence. Mad
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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Aug 2016 12:08    Post subject:
Stormwolf wrote:
Bob Barnsen wrote:
TBH it should be possible in this society, to do the same crime to someone that he did. Let rapers get raped, murders murderered etc.

What is the saying called? Eye for eye?

But nope. In Germoney for example, rapers and murderers get less punishment than someone who did piracy or tax evasion. Rolling Eyes


Doesn't the man who murders a murderer become a murderer as well? Laughing

Not if he gets killed by the police in the name of justice.


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I Am Disappoint


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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Aug 2016 14:14    Post subject:
Bob Barnsen wrote:
Stormwolf wrote:
Bob Barnsen wrote:
TBH it should be possible in this society, to do the same crime to someone that he did. Let rapers get raped, murders murderered etc.

What is the saying called? Eye for eye?

But nope. In Germoney for example, rapers and murderers get less punishment than someone who did piracy or tax evasion. Rolling Eyes


Doesn't the man who murders a murderer become a murderer as well? Laughing

Not if he gets killed by the police in the name of justice.


Yeah, we'll disagree on that one til the end of time.
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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Aug 2016 18:57    Post subject:
This is just ridiculous - much like most other "progressive" notions.
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