Paladins (f2p Overwatch-clone)
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Bob Barnsen




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PostPosted: Sun, 18th Sep 2016 00:09    Post subject: Paladins (f2p Overwatch-clone)

Release: EA: 16 Sep, 2016
Genre: Online FPS
http://store.steampowered.com/app/444090
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Enter a fantasy world of ancient technology in Paladins, a team-based shooter with strategy elements and deep character customization. Through a unique collectible card system, players can amplify and augment a character’s core set of abilities to play exactly how they want to play.

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Fantastic Champions
Paladins is set in a vibrant fantasy world and features a diverse cast of Champions ranging from sharpshooting humans to mech-riding goblins, mystical elves, jetpack-clad dragons, and bomb golems. Each Champion brings a unique set of abilities to the battlefield and new Champions are regularly added to Paladins, keeping the game exciting.

Free-to-Play
Paladins is completely Free-to-Play. Anything that affects gameplay can be unlocked simply by playing, with cosmetic items available for purchase.

Card Mastery
Players collect unique cards for each Champion and build decks that empower their personal play styles. Gamers start with a basic deck of cards and unlock additional cards as they play, opening the door to creative new decks that radically change how Champions play. Players may further tweak their decks in-game with Burn Cards, making themselves stronger or counteracting opponents’ strategies.

Level Up
No matter how players choose to play Paladins, they will gain experience points as they play. As they level up their account, master each Champion, and complete daily quests/achievements players will receive Radiant Chests and Gold which can be used to unlock additional cards, costumes, and weapon skins. The more players play, the more unique their Champions will become.

Accessibility
Paladins is played from a first-person perspective. The controls are simple to grasp for newcomers and shooter veterans alike which makes for an easy pick-up-and-play experience, on either controller or keyboard and mouse.




Trailer


Comparison with Overwatch (Laughing)


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Actually seems quite popular on Steam:
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PostPosted: Sun, 18th Sep 2016 00:22    Post subject:
Who asks for this shit? Noone asks for this shit.
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Sin317
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PostPosted: Sun, 18th Sep 2016 22:03    Post subject:
It's fun, it's free and isn't as much a clone of Overwatch as one might think (from an origin perspective).

Anyway, it is free and it is quite entertaining. I am trying to compile a list of all the champions in the game (obviously, it will take some time to unlock them all through playing, but shouldn't take too long).

Drogoz
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Pip
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Fernando
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Kinessa
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Viktor
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Skye
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Cassie
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Oh, and yeah, I am back .. hey ya all ... ?

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edit: as per request, spoilered the vids for browser stability. Welcome back Sin!

- couleur
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Bob Barnsen




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PostPosted: Sun, 18th Sep 2016 22:22    Post subject:
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Kanint




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PostPosted: Sun, 18th Sep 2016 22:29    Post subject:
Some of the champions don't fit the visual style of the other champions, like they belong in different games or were made by different artists. And the clash seems to be between overwatch-clones and new-heroes (or clones of a different game I haven't seen).
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PostPosted: Sun, 18th Sep 2016 22:33    Post subject:
VGAdeadcafe wrote:
Who asks for this shit? Noone asks for this shit.


TOO TRUE.
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0wen




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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Sep 2016 07:02    Post subject:
Supposedly this game was talked about long before Overwatch but they got beat to the punch on the release. I played a bit, it's not bad for F2P so I could see myself playing a match or 2 here and there. I would never spend any real money though as that seems mostly for cosmetic items or to unlock the characters sooner.

Game is kind of buggy though as I have already had a few crashes in an hour or so of playtime.
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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Sep 2016 10:55    Post subject:
0wen wrote:
Supposedly this game was talked about long before Overwatch but they got beat to the punch on the release. I played a bit, it's not bad for F2P so I could see myself playing a match or 2 here and there. I would never spend any real money though as that seems mostly for cosmetic items or to unlock the characters sooner.

Game is kind of buggy though as I have already had a few crashes in an hour or so of playtime.


Maybe an issue with a VC distributable or something ?

also,

Grover

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0wen




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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Sep 2016 11:21    Post subject:
Seems I discovered this game a few days too late for most of the free character and costume skin giveaways but this one is still active.

http://www.mmorpg.com/giveaways.cfm/offer/768/Paladins-Free-Cassie-Skin-Key-Giveaway.html
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tet666




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PostPosted: Sun, 25th Sep 2016 08:46    Post subject:
it's hardly a clone if most of the game existed before Overwatch Laughing :
https://www.reddit.com/r/Paladins/comments/53qusf/a_brief_history_of_paladins_as_response_to/
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PostPosted: Sun, 25th Sep 2016 08:56    Post subject:
@tet666
The similarities are still extremely strong, if you look at my comparison video for example.

Either that is really by pure accident, or Blizzard are the ones taking ideas from this game - which i somehow really doubt.

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Also player count keeps rising:

Not bad really.


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madness




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PostPosted: Sun, 25th Sep 2016 08:57    Post subject:
As if people wasn't calling Overwatch a TF2 clone when it was first revealed.
These types of games all take ideas from each other.
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tet666




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PostPosted: Sun, 25th Sep 2016 09:05    Post subject:
Bob Barnsen wrote:
@tet666
The similarities are still extremely strong, if you look at my comparison video for example.

Either that is really by pure accident, or Blizzard are the ones taking ideas from this game - which i somehow really doubt.


but they revealed most of them bevore Overwatch for example mech guy:

Ruckus August 2015:

D.Va October 2015: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D.Va

so unless they had spies at blizzard hq i don't see how that would be possible
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Kanint




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PostPosted: Sun, 25th Sep 2016 09:15    Post subject:
tet666 wrote:
it's hardly a clone if most of the game existed before Overwatch Laughing :
https://www.reddit.com/r/Paladins/comments/53qusf/a_brief_history_of_paladins_as_response_to/

It actually does a pretty good job of showing how the artstyle didn't look that similar to Overwatch originally.

Also the thread title calls it a clone. The title never lies.
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PostPosted: Sun, 25th Sep 2016 09:22    Post subject:
Kanint wrote:
tet666 wrote:
it's hardly a clone if most of the game existed before Overwatch Laughing :
https://www.reddit.com/r/Paladins/comments/53qusf/a_brief_history_of_paladins_as_response_to/

It actually does a pretty good job of showing how the artstyle didn't look that similar to Overwatch originally.

Also the thread title calls it a clone. The title never lies.


Those vids are from Global Agenda their first game from 2010, Paladins (Aurum) always looked cartoony.
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Kanint




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PostPosted: Sun, 25th Sep 2016 09:28    Post subject:
I mean, which of those pictures look closest to each others?





That middle one isn't from 2010, either.
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tet666




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PostPosted: Sun, 25th Sep 2016 12:32    Post subject:
Just read the thread i linked that launcher pic is obviously just a datamined placeholder,
also why are we even discussing this when pretty much everything blizzard ever made is just a more polished copy of something else? Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun, 25th Sep 2016 15:02    Post subject:
tet666 wrote:
Just read the thread i linked that launcher pic is obviously just a datamined placeholder,
also why are we even discussing this when pretty much everything blizzard ever made is just a more polished copy of something else? Laughing


It is like the Highlander, there can be only one.

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Kanint




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PostPosted: Sun, 25th Sep 2016 19:56    Post subject:
tet666 wrote:
Just read the thread i linked that launcher pic is obviously just a datamined placeholder,
also why are we even discussing this when pretty much everything blizzard ever made is just a more polished copy of something else? Laughing

I think people are discussing this because that's the only interesting part about Paladins.
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PostPosted: Sun, 25th Sep 2016 20:07    Post subject:
Kanint wrote:
tet666 wrote:
Just read the thread i linked that launcher pic is obviously just a datamined placeholder,
also why are we even discussing this when pretty much everything blizzard ever made is just a more polished copy of something else? Laughing

I think people are discussing this because that's the only interesting part about Paladins.


Did you even try the game?
It's actually pretty fun and plays differently then Overwatch, i play it from time to time when i'm bored with Overwatch and it is a pretty good alternative, it also seems to be a big hit on steam atm.
I really don't see how the similarities are even a big deal and blindly hating the game cause of it is just just childish in my eyes.
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PostPosted: Sun, 25th Sep 2016 20:27    Post subject:
tet666 wrote:
Kanint wrote:
tet666 wrote:
Just read the thread i linked that launcher pic is obviously just a datamined placeholder,
also why are we even discussing this when pretty much everything blizzard ever made is just a more polished copy of something else? Laughing

I think people are discussing this because that's the only interesting part about Paladins.


Did you even try the game?
It's actually pretty fun and plays differently then Overwatch, i play it from time to time when i'm bored with Overwatch and it is a pretty good alternative, it also seems to be a big hit on steam atm.
I really don't see how the similarities are even a big deal and blindly hating the game cause of it is just just childish in my eyes.

None of my posts have been about the gameplay or accusing the game of playing like Overwatch.
I've been discussing the visual identity of the game only. It's very, very obvious that their character designs are inspired by Overwatch. If only 1 or 2 characters looked similar, that'd be a coincidence. But MANY characters are straight up copies, and the characters that don't look like Overwatch characters have a different artstyle than the rest, making it look like they weren't designed by the same people.

I'm sure the game plays different, but visually, Hi-Rez absolutely used the visual style to lure new players into playing their game. And hey, looks like it worked. Still shady tho.
Also of course this is childish, this is the nfohump. What else could it be?
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PostPosted: Sun, 25th Sep 2016 22:18    Post subject:
Sure is a good alternative to people who don't want to shell out 60$ for a TF2 clone Smile

Anyway, it's fast, it's fun, it's free Smile And I like that you can actually modify your playstyle with the cards system. It adds something that is missing in OW, IMHO. TF2 had items and weapons, Paladins has its loadout modifier cards, but OW costs the most and has only skins ? I need LOOT dammit ! I'm a hoarder ! Also, Hi-rez did SMITE and also Tribes before (yes yes, a remake too), but they sure aren't new to the MOBA/Class MP FPS milieu Smile
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PostPosted: Mon, 26th Sep 2016 11:38    Post subject:
Yeah coming from MMOs and Arpgs the cards definitely help to make the Heroes more interesting to me, stuff is also pretty easy to unlock, the f2p system is very generous.
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PostPosted: Mon, 26th Sep 2016 13:51    Post subject:
tet666 wrote:
Yeah coming from MMOs and Arpgs the cards definitely help to make the Heroes more interesting to me, stuff is also pretty easy to unlock, the f2p system is very generous.


It is pretty much pay to look good/different since you can unlock all the characters with the in game gold. I have been trying to get that referral thing going to get the Pip Mad Scientist skin but the system is so buggy it seems to only keep track of the top played with person instead of adding them all together so it looks like I will need to get 10 hours teamed with 1 person.
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PostPosted: Mon, 26th Sep 2016 19:41    Post subject:
I haven't played the game yet, or really followed the development so far:
- Will you keep the things you unlock during Early Access?
- Also are there any plans, that at full release there will be changes on what or how you can unlock with normal playing?
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PostPosted: Mon, 26th Sep 2016 19:57    Post subject:
Bob Barnsen wrote:
I haven't played the game yet, or really followed the development so far:
- Will you keep the things you unlock during Early Access?
- Also are there any plans, that at full release there will be changes on what or how you can unlock with normal playing?


Nope no wipes they did a lot of changes though, and that included removing or reworking things. Say you bought a chest with gold (you could do that before) when it stopped being purchasable with gold, that gold was returned to you.
So pretty much no, and there won't be any.
They have not announced anything would change at full release and it wouldn't make much sense to change that without wipes.
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PostPosted: Mon, 26th Sep 2016 20:04    Post subject:
@tet666
Okay. Still playing Overwatch for a bit nearly every day.
Will give Paladins a try though at the weekend.


OT:
Also what you wrote in your second sentence reminds of of Trendy with Dungeon Defenders 2 (f2p too): They too listened to their users, changed things and were rather generous with giving people their ingame and real money currency back after some changes.
Would probably still have played that, if it didn't became too boring at one point.


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PostPosted: Tue, 27th Sep 2016 12:53    Post subject:
Sin317 wrote:
Sure is a good alternative to people who don't want to shell out 60$ for a TF2 clone Smile


aheem


https://playoverwatch.com/en-us/buy/#overwatch-edition

$40, it's always been 40. The "Origins" copy is 60 which includes useless stuff.


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PostPosted: Tue, 27th Sep 2016 12:59    Post subject:
Well free is still better then even $40 and since most of the other Hi-Rez games have been around for years this one will probably last as well. That said, if I ever won Overwatch in a contest or it goes on sale for $10 or so I would probably give it a try.
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PostPosted: Tue, 27th Sep 2016 13:49    Post subject:
I have both but i play this more atm likely cause i'm bored with OW and this is new so whatever i love to play support and it's just not very rewarding in OW while it's great in Paladins.
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