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 Posted: Thu, 13th Apr 2017 13:56 Post subject: Sued for copyright infringement |
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Yea well, i got careless and they got me. Kinda stupid now. But i gotta have to pay 915€ for "torrenting" Batman vs Superman. I got my own layer involved and i have to wait for a response from Warner Bros. lawyer firm . I am wondering though, is there any chance they will either drop the claim , or reduce the fee i have to pay ? Anyone got experience in this, will they back down when they see me lawyering up ?
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VonMisk
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| Posted: Thu, 13th Apr 2017 14:05 Post subject: |
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It's always the shitties movies that get's you in trouble.
sar·casm | \ ˈsär-ˌka-zəm \
1: a sharp and often satirical or ironic utterance designed to cut or give pain
2a: a mode of satirical wit depending for its effect on bitter, caustic, and often ironic language that is usually directed against an individual
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VonMisk
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| Posted: Thu, 13th Apr 2017 14:10 Post subject: |
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In Poland, the copyright trolls usually strike with some shitty polish redneck quality porn or shitty polish comedies that nobody watched but everyone torrented.
sar·casm | \ ˈsär-ˌka-zəm \
1: a sharp and often satirical or ironic utterance designed to cut or give pain
2a: a mode of satirical wit depending for its effect on bitter, caustic, and often ironic language that is usually directed against an individual
b: the use or language of sarcasm
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| Posted: Thu, 13th Apr 2017 14:12 Post subject: |
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Yea but unfortunalty im not getting trolled or scammed. That lawyer firm got warner, sony and several other big companies as client and they are in charge for over 75% of the copyright infringement claims in GER.
Just wonder if they gonna back down now because i did not sign the shit they send with the claim, instead my lawyer wrote his (my) own version saying i will refrain from torrenting that movie BUT plea not guilty. So lets see if they wanna push it.
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Nalo
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| Posted: Thu, 13th Apr 2017 14:17 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Thu, 13th Apr 2017 14:19 Post subject: |
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Well, will they say so or just not write to me (my lawyer) anymore ?^^
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WaldoJ
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| Posted: Thu, 13th Apr 2017 14:31 Post subject: |
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lol top kek.
How much is a lawyer costing you?!
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tonizito
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| Posted: Thu, 13th Apr 2017 14:59 Post subject: |
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Dafuq? Where you using a public tracker or...?
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| Posted: Thu, 13th Apr 2017 15:02 Post subject: |
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yea^^. Told you, stupid and arrogant
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Horrordee
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| Posted: Thu, 13th Apr 2017 15:23 Post subject: |
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Oh dear oh dear. This sucks man.
Usenet all the way next time bro. Good luck
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| Posted: Thu, 13th Apr 2017 17:11 Post subject: |
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You should have ignored them. 
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Saner
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| Posted: Thu, 13th Apr 2017 17:29 Post subject: |
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Batman Vs superman
Fuck man, that's harsh
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I saw things like that in here and in other "woman problems" topics so...... Am I the only one that thinks some authorities needs to be alerted about Saner and him possibly being a rapist and/or kidnapper ? |
Saner is not being serious. Unless its the subject of Santa!
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| Posted: Thu, 13th Apr 2017 18:05 Post subject: |
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I interpreted "getMoreMoney" as living in Germany.
In Germany the law is that the ISPs have to provide your full details if you are accused of pirating no matter how big, small, new, old, what you are downloading is.
http://www.zdnet.com/article/file-sharers-details-can-be-handed-over-for-smallest-of-infringements-germany-rules/
| Quote: | | Germany's Federal Court of Law, the Bundesgerichtshof (BGH), has ruled that users of file-sharing sites have no right to remain anonymous, regardless of how much – or little – music they share. |
https://www.google.com/search?q=germany+letter+torrent+piracy
Anyone saying "ignore it", does not know how things work in Germany. Sure, they might not bother to take you to court; but they might will, and you don't want that. Don't rush to pay them, but do send them that letter that says you won't be downloading anything in the future as a start and see how it goes. In many cases it's enough to make them stop.
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
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Invasor
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| Posted: Thu, 13th Apr 2017 19:57 Post subject: |
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| Hellifant wrote: | | Just wonder if they gonna back down now because i did not sign the shit they send with the claim, instead my lawyer wrote his (my) own version saying i will refrain from torrenting that movie BUT plea not guilty |
Idk if it is how you phrased it, but that does sound like an admission of guilt to me. "I never have, never will" is different from "I will stop, but actually I never did it in the first place, really"...
Anyway, you are doing the right thing by doing your own research and not (blindly) believing your lawyer, but I'm pretty sure he knows what he is doing.
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| Posted: Thu, 13th Apr 2017 21:15 Post subject: |
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| consolitis wrote: | I interpreted "getMoreMoney" as living in Germany.
In Germany the law is that the ISPs have to provide your full details if you are accused of pirating no matter how big, small, new, old, what you are downloading is.
http://www.zdnet.com/article/file-sharers-details-can-be-handed-over-for-smallest-of-infringements-germany-rules/
| Quote: | | Germany's Federal Court of Law, the Bundesgerichtshof (BGH), has ruled that users of file-sharing sites have no right to remain anonymous, regardless of how much – or little – music they share. |
https://www.google.com/search?q=germany+letter+torrent+piracy
Anyone saying "ignore it", does not know how things work in Germany. Sure, they might not bother to take you to court; but they might will, and you don't want that. Don't rush to pay them, but do send them that letter that says you won't be downloading anything in the future as a start and see how it goes. In many cases it's enough to make them stop. |
But! I might be wrong about this but bear with me. Afaik, in Germany, he might be able to avoid it because "an IP ≠ human being" which should still hold true. He should ask his lawyer about that. I might be severly outdated with that tidbit but I remember reading alot about cases like this that have been dropped due to it in the past. Also, people who had dynamic IP, also had an even easier time with avoiding it.
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| Posted: Thu, 13th Apr 2017 22:09 Post subject: |
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To me, that sounds like something that you will have to fight for in court to prove your innocence. "Your honor, that wasn't my IP address". "Objection! You honor, he is lying, take a look at exhibit A, which shows ISP's provided data, etc." 
And you don't want for it to get this serious, because if you are found guilty you'll pay even more.
As I remember, the initial fine, or a large part of it, is for their "legal expenses" tracking you down. If you go to court they will also charge you for the pirated material itself. And you'll have to pay even more money to your lawyer because the case is more serious. And you'll also be quite stressed.
Will they take you to court? Maybe not. Probably not. But I believe they have taken some people. Are you willing to risk it?
The best course of action is sending them that letter that says you won't be pirating this film, while also not admitting that you ever did. It will stop them in the vast majority of cases. The question is, do you send it yourself or do you get a lawyer involved. Sending it yourself will cost you nothing, but getting a lawyer involved will put your mind more at ease..
Me, I would probably send the letter on my own.. But I'm not living in Germany, so what do I know.. I'm just saying what I've read..
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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WaldoJ
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| Posted: Thu, 13th Apr 2017 22:10 Post subject: |
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Still laughing at this.
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| Posted: Thu, 13th Apr 2017 22:54 Post subject: |
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vpn dude
on linux you can do vpn for specific apps with docker containers
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| Posted: Fri, 14th Apr 2017 01:53 Post subject: |
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| madness wrote: | | 915€ for BvS... Worth it. |
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Morphineus
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| Posted: Fri, 14th Apr 2017 09:11 Post subject: |
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It sure is cruel that it was for BvS 
Maybe that Oscar got to their head. 
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chiv
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| Posted: Fri, 14th Apr 2017 09:43 Post subject: |
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Between having to go to prison, or paying for bvs.. Don't envy the choice...
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harry_theone
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| Posted: Fri, 14th Apr 2017 13:58 Post subject: |
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Those 915 are pretty much cheap compared to what they could've sent you instead. But yeah there's no way around it other than paying and stopping torrenting altogether. IMO it's so unsafe compared to premium accounts on downloading sites. Using the latter I haven't been charged with anything for the past years. They'll always catch you on the "sharing" part.
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