Pathfinder: Kingmaker (cRPG)
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Bob Barnsen




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PostPosted: Thu, 18th May 2017 05:50    Post subject: Pathfinder: Kingmaker (cRPG)


Release: Q3 2018
Genre: isometric party-based RPG
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/owlcatgames/pathfinder-kingmaker
https://owlcatgames.com/

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Pathfinder is one of the most popular pen-and-paper fantasy roleplaying games. It builds on more than 10 years of system development and had the largest open playtest in the history of tabletop gaming with the goal of creating an unparalleled fantasy roleplaying experience.

Pathfinder puts you in the role of a brave adventurer fighting to survive in a world beset by magic and evil!

Take on the role of a canny fighter hacking through enemies with an enchanted sword, a powerful sorceress blessed with magic by the hint of demon blood in her veins, a wise cleric of gods benevolent or malign, a witty rogue ready to defuse even the deadliest of traps or any of the countless other heroes. The only limit is your imagination!

The Pathfinder Roleplaying Game is an evolution of the 3.5 rules set of the world's oldest fantasy roleplaying game, designed using the feedback of tens of thousands of gamers just like you.

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Journey to the Stolen Lands
Welcome to the Stolen Lands, contested territory for centuries. Defend yourself against the threats of wilderness and rival kingdoms as you explore a world rich with history, magic, and conflict.

Companion Focused Story
Experience the adventure alongside living and breathing companions, each with deep stories and decisions of their own. Love them, adore them or hate them for who they are.

Character development
Customize your character and companions with a multitude of options available in Pathfinder to make the perfect party capable of overcoming insurmountable challenges.

Kingdom
Establish your kingdom in Stolen Lands, claim new territories, and build towns and cities. Be a wise ruler or a heavy-handed tyrant.

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Narrative design by Chris Avellone

«I’m a Paizo fan, and a Pathfinder fan. I like the setting, the art style, the adventure paths, the card game, and the iconic characters. I’ve enjoyed playing Pathfinder with my friends (we used to be part of an Ocean’s-11 style game), and I’ve enjoyed the comics, the world, and the overall setting. I’m excited by the prospect of bringing Pathfinder to the computer RPG world, and hope gamers will enjoy playing in the Pathfinder universe.»






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Kanint




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PostPosted: Thu, 18th May 2017 06:13    Post subject:
Interesting. Obsidian got the license to make Pathfinder games back in 2014, so while I expected to see a Pathfinder RPG, I didn't think it'd be developed by someone else. But if they're making a cRPG instead of the card-game made by Obsidian, I'm totally for it.
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PostPosted: Sun, 4th Jun 2017 10:16    Post subject:
Interview with Narrative Designer Chris Avellone
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Chris is a senior narrative designer on Pathfinder: Kingmaker. As a veteran of the industry he has worked on titles by Black Isle Studios, including Planescape: Torment, Fallout 2 and the Icewind Dale series. He has also worked on Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic II, Neverwinter Nights 2 and Fallout: New Vegas. Recently, he has completed work on Beamdog Studios’ Planescape: Torment – Enhanced Edition and Arkane Studios’ Prey.

We have gathered the community’s most burning questions for Chris about his involvement with Pathfinder: Kingmaker and his thoughts about the Pathfinder universe. Enjoy!



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Full interview @ https://www.facebook.com/notes/pathfinder-kingmaker/interview-with-narrative-designer-chris-avellone/705297732990609/


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PostPosted: Sun, 4th Jun 2017 12:26    Post subject:
Really liking the aesthetics. Hopefuly the game will actually look like that.
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PostPosted: Tue, 6th Jun 2017 17:28    Post subject:
And KS live:
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/owlcatgames/pathfinder-kingmaker




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PostPosted: Tue, 6th Jun 2017 18:42    Post subject:
I got the impression from the early info that it was going to be fairly short/small scale. 40/80 hours is extremely ambitious given the money they are asking for. Either they expect Avellone to bring in a few million by himself, or they also have money from outside (My.com one would think).
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PostPosted: Sat, 10th Jun 2017 19:00    Post subject:



And some gameplay videos
http://www.ign.com/articles/2017/06/09/pathfinder-kingmaker-could-scratch-your-dd-rpg-itch



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PostPosted: Sat, 10th Jun 2017 20:38    Post subject:
Meh.
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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Jun 2017 14:51    Post subject:
More CRPG goodness is good, men! Let it come to life i say!


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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Jun 2017 14:54    Post subject:
i guess its safe to say this will get funded : $428,071 pledged of $500,000 goal and still 26 days to go


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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Jun 2017 16:25    Post subject:
Wish they went with turn based :<
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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Jun 2017 16:35    Post subject:
Happy they didn't Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Jun 2017 19:07    Post subject:
Good luck to them, looks cool, but fuck Kickstarter these days. Too many burns.


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DCB




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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Jun 2017 07:37    Post subject:


While the "display all equipped items" is pretty cool, it doesn't seem like the wisest investment of their resources. Although I guess the team could work on that side of things while they sorted out stuff like the story.
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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Jun 2017 08:01    Post subject:
I hope the combat isn't balanced to the ultimate boredom like in Pillars of Boredom.
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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Jun 2017 09:30    Post subject:
At least the graphics is completely adorable. Reminds me of Allods Online, which was a mindless grindfest, but the visuals were an improved, modern variant of WoW.
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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Jun 2017 10:18    Post subject:
It's not the balancing that made PoE combat boring, it's just questionable design. You can have very good balance while retaining a very fun combat system (for instance, you can have abilities that are situationally-OP but other times very weak, or abilities that require a certain build etc.).

If you don't believe me, look at D3's character classes: on a global scale, the're all very closely balanced between each other, and each even has several viable endgame builds (of course, some builds are better for some situations, and that's fine).
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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Jun 2017 17:39    Post subject:
VGAdeadcafe wrote:
I hope the combat isn't balanced to the ultimate boredom like in Pillars of Boredom.


it's ok that was josh sawyer's wacky hijinks


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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Jun 2017 17:40    Post subject:
Holy shit that guy's shirt
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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Jun 2017 19:31    Post subject:
deadpoetic wrote:
Holy shit that guy's shirt

Aww Yeah
Also the sexy red skirt, very nice.


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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Jun 2017 01:52    Post subject:
A project like this with so many question marks asks for a prudent approach, though whenever I read the isometric party-based RPG + Avellone combo I can't help but feeling that tingle Very Happy

I'm not familiar with the franchise, but fingers crossed for an in-game meaningful and inspired world, characters and combat system - without silly generic aftertastes (well, not too many at least!)
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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Jun 2017 06:32    Post subject:
The franchise is basically evolved D&D 3.5 edition. It's even called D&D 3.75 sometimes, because it's almost the same ruleset, with some slight adjustments and a different world. It was released by Pazio under Open Game License - a license previous DnD systems used, which allowed other companies to change and re-release the rules for their tabletop games. They did it in reaction to Wizards of the Coast releasing D&D 4th edition in a different, more restrictive law framework (and with rules that were so different, they divided the community). Pazio is also a company with long D&D ties - they published magazines featuring loads of new rules and content. In short: think Neverwinter Nights 2 or Temple of Elemental Evil as far as combat, classes and systems go, with a different, but adequately similar setting. So there's plenty of reasons to be excited Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Jun 2017 14:09    Post subject:
Yeah as Aquma says, Pathfinder is a more balanced version of D&D 3.5 basically.

My favourite thing is how they improved Barbarians, they gave them rage powers which are special feats they get when raging.

There are some really interesting ones like Superstitious, which makes you have to save against all spells (even friendly ones), but gives you a massive save bonus against them. Leads to some hilarious situations on the tabletop.
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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Jun 2017 23:37    Post subject:
@Aquma and Steelone: cheers, that does sound promising indeed Smile
Judging from their mission the scope is an ambitious one as well (going for a proper implementation with no apparent compromises), count myself officially aroused. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon, 26th Jun 2017 19:34    Post subject:
funded now


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Bob Barnsen




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PostPosted: Mon, 26th Jun 2017 19:39    Post subject:
prudislav wrote:
funded now

They will probably get at least 200k more before it ends.

Though the current stretch goals are rather boring. So i don't expected the later ones to be even worth it.


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PostPosted: Mon, 10th Jul 2017 11:12    Post subject:
They've broken through 700K with just under 2 days to go:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/owlcatgames/pathfinder-kingmaker/posts/1932826
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PostPosted: Mon, 10th Jul 2017 12:27    Post subject:
Really glad for them, this has potential to be a fantastic game (of the genre).
But didn't pledge, I can't afford any quality time for this kind of games anymore Sad
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PostPosted: Tue, 11th Jul 2017 05:53    Post subject:
24hrs left and 780K, so they will pretty comfortably unlock the archetypes stretch goal at 800K. Even with slacker backer pledges after the KS finishes though, I think the 900K stretch goal of an Avellone-written goblin companion (sounds a bit like Deekin from NWN) is probably out of reach unless they get a massive influx of pledges today.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/owlcatgames/pathfinder-kingmaker/posts/1933161

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/owlcatgames/pathfinder-kingmaker/posts/1933495

https://www.reddit.com/r/Pathfinder_RPG/comments/6maqvu/ama_with_the_devs_of_pathfinder_kingmaker_on_july/
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PostPosted: Tue, 11th Jul 2017 06:00    Post subject:
Very nice.

Though i hope the Archetypes will have meaningful differences.
Because doing 3 per class (10+) seems like quite the effort.


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