[XBOX360] XBox360 is confirmed to be backwards compatible
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Tkmaster5121




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PostPosted: Fri, 13th May 2005 02:46    Post subject: [XBOX360] XBox360 is confirmed to be backwards compatible
i found this info on the playstation undergrounds area for e3

what are the graphics like in the games and how does the conroller feel?
the graphics give that feeling of excitment again. honestly they made my heart jump. the first game they allowed us to test was pdo. no jaggies, no load time, textures was soo amazing you could go up to an industrial beam, as your looking at it, the paints chippin off, the bolts are really there, rust even looks real. everything is 3-d. no flat surfaces here. and it has a much cleaner look than xbox. i mean the way 3-d objects look. like grass. it is grass. each blade. but my favorite was a movie clip of elder scrolls. just the pure size of that game will change the way you feel about game worlds. kameo is also looking better. how ever it still has that cartoony look, but more like a cg on a computer. the controller feels like the controller s. the main difference is the smooth face. its real smooth feeling. it gives it a grip feeling. a real good grip. best part though, the controllers from the 360 are a little heavier feeling then the s type. and no the xboxlogo doenst move. its just on the controller.


What are the extra features, like streaming music & movies on a wireless network to your xbox? What will xbox live be like?
they only showed us the basic model. they then showed video of the 360 hd edition. how ever i did pick up on one thing the guy givin us a speech had said, the xbox 360 can play xbox 1 games at a higher resolution. i believe he said 720 standard for older games played through the 360. but it was not quiet in that place. ever. even when the moments of revealing something new came, everyone just kept playing games, and talking about how they cant believe they are playing a game that looks like this.


Is there a HDD
it is an option. yes. we only got to play basic models. none had memory units attached.


Is the processor more or less than 4 Ghz
the processors are not 4 ghz. none ever add up to it either. each one instead runs a differnt part of the system at 3ghz. but ill tell you this. no load times. ever. and the few developers who spoke, said the set-up is perfect for games. they never mentioned cell, but they said the 360 has all the power the nex-gen needs. and more! speecifically the japanese developers. they think the 360 has more power than they felt the nex-gen would. that got me really exited.


Will it be relaesed in different colors
they are customizable. but the show only had a white or pearl, colored xbox. and it never turned green from the side. thats wrong. but it looks so good up close, you wont care. i swear it.


How was the wireless controllers? Were they as responsive as wired ones?
yes they are !!!!!!! i love the new controllers. it seems ms spent alot of money perfecting them. and the usb on the bottom, that is intresting. imagine downloading a combo set for a character and puting them right into your cntroller. thats onna be a cool feature.


wireless controllers can it support up to 4 controllers and do you have to replace the batteries or does it come with rechargable thing
the controllers are rechargable.


can it support xbox controllers
it has one controller port in back for older controllers. but just one.


were the graphics better than the half life 2 or do you think it is capable of doing way better than half life 2
Yes. i think many 360 games will set standards in graphics. hl2 is pretty. but i seen games that beat it.


Does it support backwards capabilty?
yes!


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AnimalMother




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PostPosted: Fri, 13th May 2005 03:14    Post subject:
Who is the guy answering the questions, he doesn't seem very professional.

Well whatever, mostly good news, although obviously he could be biased. The only thing that worries me is that you have to recharge the controllers, a mistake on microsofts part I think.


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Tkmaster5121




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PostPosted: Fri, 13th May 2005 03:18    Post subject:
AnimalMother wrote:
Who is the guy answerng the questions, he doesn't seem very professional.

Well whatever, mostly good news, although obviously he could be biased. The only thing that worries me is that you have to recharge the controllers, a mistake on microsofts part I think.

the person was one of those at the unveiling at mtv..
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RubberChicken




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PostPosted: Fri, 13th May 2005 10:04    Post subject:
bit shitty you have to recharge the controllers, i really hope everything with the 360 will make it worth the recharge.
I wonder how much the 360 will cost, any one got an idea?
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Anima




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PostPosted: Fri, 13th May 2005 12:20    Post subject:
USD 1500
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mcmanic




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PostPosted: Fri, 13th May 2005 12:31    Post subject:
don't see a problem with wireless, Was using GC wireless with 2 AAA batteries which last 100hours, and the Xbox ones are rechargable via usb so its been said, so you probably can use them still while recharging.
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PostPosted: Fri, 13th May 2005 13:05    Post subject:
mcmanic wrote:
don't see a problem with wireless, Was using GC wireless with 2 AAA batteries which last 100hours, and the Xbox ones are rechargable via usb so its been said, so you probably can use them still while recharging.


well lets hope so!

it would truly suck to almost beat a hard end boss just to have the damn controller go dead.

or why not in the last curb of an endurance race in forca. Very Happy
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whackawookie




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PostPosted: Fri, 13th May 2005 16:48    Post subject:
i read somewhere before and heard from another guy that the xbox will be backwards compatible, but depending on the system u buy because its coming in two types at launch. one basic and one with a hard drive. they didnt say though if the hdd was the key to the backwards compatibility or what not. again, this is just what i heard. its a good thing i reserved mine a month ago so im guaranteed one. WOOT
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xxxRIPTERxxx




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PostPosted: Fri, 13th May 2005 16:59    Post subject:
ourcolony.net lets u download the video showing halo2 on 360 so yes it is backwords compatible. hd is removable so im assumeing they plan on letting u filling it up with something prob demos and content though. ah wel gotta wait till E3 to find out all.

oooo just noticed on gamespot

"Halo 3 (working title)
Publisher: Microsoft Game Studios | X360 | Action
release:
TBA " Very Happy
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AnimalMother




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PostPosted: Fri, 13th May 2005 17:07    Post subject:
Halo 3 will fucking own!


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PostPosted: Fri, 13th May 2005 17:15    Post subject:
Man that Xbox360 vid at gametrailers.com was really something...


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Tkmaster5121




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PostPosted: Sat, 14th May 2005 03:58    Post subject:
xxxRIPTERxxx wrote:
ourcolony.net lets u download the video showing halo2 on 360 so yes it is backwords compatible. hd is removable so im assumeing they plan on letting u filling it up with something prob demos and content though. ah wel gotta wait till E3 to find out all.

oooo just noticed on gamespot

"Halo 3 (working title)
Publisher: Microsoft Game Studios | X360 | Action
release:
TBA " Very Happy

halo 2 isnt really something to really show... if your unaware there will be a Halo 2 Directors Cut (halo 2.5) ... that will be released on the new xbox...

However there was sutile hints at BW compatibility... if you notice fable was seen on the screen under a section called xbox 1.
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whackawookie




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PostPosted: Sat, 14th May 2005 13:22    Post subject:
this should stop rumors until an official announcement is made

Backward Compatible or not?
That's probably the hottest question left unanswered so far by Microsoft.
As recently as last week, a Microsoft executive said Microsoft hadn't yet determined whether the new Xbox 360 would be backward compatible. They cite a host of technical issues as reason because the console is moving from a Intel x86 based CPU to an IBM PowerPC and from an Nvidia GPU to one made by ATI. Analysts say it may come down to whether Microsoft is able to license patented technology from the cpu/gpu vendors of the original Xbox or find a way to emulate Xbox1 games without having to pay license fees.
The images shown on the new Xbox Live demos where they use images of Halo 2 and Crimson Skies and the fact that people are playing Xbox1 games on the Xbox360 on the ourcolony.net video gives some credence to the theory of Microsoft supporting backward compatibility. It atleast suggests that the test units are backward compatible. But it could be because Microsoft tries to prevent us from seeing Xbox 360 games in action as well.
Read More: IGN.com and nwsource.com
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Fractious




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PostPosted: Sun, 15th May 2005 09:38    Post subject:
well i cant wait i hope we can play backups though otherwise it may go the way of most nintendo systems Sad , i do not think it is coincidence that sony is a strong player and everyone of there consoles are chippable, any system that is not chippable seems to die imo. u only need to see how segas dc was given a liveline when the booting bug was revealed there sales hit the roof and they sold more origanals as well.


As for framerate, the 360 version runs smooth, while the PS3 is a jaggy mess that chugs along in slow motion.
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JohnSearle




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PostPosted: Tue, 17th May 2005 05:18    Post subject:
Given the whole backwards compatibility thing.. has there been any word whether this possible compatibility will include a system-link with the old xbox? I would tend to assume that it would be possible.. but has anyone heard this as a part of the compatibilty discussion?
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Tkmaster5121




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PostPosted: Tue, 24th May 2005 20:08    Post subject:
JohnSearle wrote:
Given the whole backwards compatibility thing.. has there been any word whether this possible compatibility will include a system-link with the old xbox? I would tend to assume that it would be possible.. but has anyone heard this as a part of the compatibilty discussion?


ok it is backwards compatible but only partially..

to have a xbox 1 game work it has to be a best seller and the xbox 360 has to download all the discs contents onto the hard drive and reencode it with the new routines that will make it work on the 360,

this in a way sux becasue not all your xbox 1 games will work, 1 game you really like but isnt considered a best seller will not work with the 360..

and another you will have to give up some of the hard drive space to house the reencoded game
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m2rock




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PostPosted: Tue, 24th May 2005 20:54    Post subject:
It will be most likely for some "top" games as they dont want to pay licenses to nvidia
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n@utilus




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PostPosted: Tue, 24th May 2005 20:56    Post subject:
why care about backward compatible??
sure it would be nice...
but the old xbox will be worth nothing so no reason to sell it,you can still keep it and play your old games on the old system....

you need some space but thats it...
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Tkmaster5121




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PostPosted: Wed, 25th May 2005 02:46    Post subject:
n@utilus wrote:
why care about backward compatible??
sure it would be nice...
but the old xbox will be worth nothing so no reason to sell it,you can still keep it and play your old games on the old system....

you need some space but thats it...

there will still be trade in value for the xbox 1.. granted might not be as much as it is now but its something
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PostPosted: Wed, 25th May 2005 12:51    Post subject:
its also pretty annoying having to plug in the other console and swap em whenever you wanna play one of the older games, sony has this solved perfectly.


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mcmanic




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PostPosted: Wed, 25th May 2005 14:27    Post subject:
backwards compatibility for me means nothing, i've never played a ps1 game on a ps2 and don't intend to with ps3 or with xbox360, to me its just a added bonus thats pretty much useless - i'd rather be playing new games than 5 year old games
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pallebrun




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PostPosted: Wed, 25th May 2005 15:30    Post subject:
The main thing is not if you play, the main thing is, you can stash away the other consoles.
That's the key thing with backwards compatibility in my opinion.
Although I do play ps1 games on my ps2, quite alot actually and will do so even on the ps3, but it's not the maing cause why I like backwards compatability.

This approach from microsoft means that you must have both consoles unless you only play the top selling ones, otherwise you are screwed. I hate having a crapload of consoles, especially these days when we are so spiled with awesome backwards compatibility in form of the playstation. I mean being able to replace even the old ps1 with a brand new ps3 is fricking awesome. The playstation works like a pc, you upgrade the hardware to be able to play the new games but can still play the old games, it's kickass Smile
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n@utilus




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PostPosted: Wed, 25th May 2005 16:29    Post subject:
first of all we do need a mod chip for the new consoles to play our old games Shocked
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PostPosted: Thu, 26th May 2005 03:24    Post subject:
pallebrun wrote:
The main thing is not if you play, the main thing is, you can stash away the other consoles.
That's the key thing with backwards compatibility in my opinion.
Although I do play ps1 games on my ps2, quite alot actually and will do so even on the ps3, but it's not the maing cause why I like backwards compatability.

This approach from microsoft means that you must have both consoles unless you only play the top selling ones, otherwise you are screwed. I hate having a crapload of consoles, especially these days when we are so spiled with awesome backwards compatibility in form of the playstation. I mean being able to replace even the old ps1 with a brand new ps3 is fricking awesome. The playstation works like a pc, you upgrade the hardware to be able to play the new games but can still play the old games, it's kickass Smile


i think the playstation are becoming more like the xbox
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PostPosted: Thu, 26th May 2005 08:04    Post subject:
pallebrun wrote:
This approach from microsoft means that you must have both consoles unless you only play the top selling ones, otherwise you are screwed.


Who's gonna play the non-"top selling ones" anyway? Not me... Smile
I doubt there'll be many guys who're still gonna be playing even the top games from the past generation.
Btw, how many PSX games did you play on your PS2?
The only PSX game I played on my PS2 was Devil Dice... and that was quite a while ago.
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pallebrun




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PostPosted: Thu, 26th May 2005 14:50    Post subject:
Breakneck wrote:
pallebrun wrote:
This approach from microsoft means that you must have both consoles unless you only play the top selling ones, otherwise you are screwed.


Who's gonna play the non-"top selling ones" anyway? Not me... Smile
I doubt there'll be many guys who're still gonna be playing even the top games from the past generation.
Btw, how many PSX games did you play on your PS2?
The only PSX game I played on my PS2 was Devil Dice... and that was quite a while ago.


I really cant name them all since it's way too many.
It's atleast 50 psx games that I played on my ps2 and will most likley continue to play on the ps3 Smile
But to name a few.
2D platform games like all the megaman games, castlevania, rpg games, all those crash bandicoot games, resident evil 2 and 3, metal gear solid and so on. These are games that I play from time to time, and it's far from all Smile
If a game is good it's good, I couldn't give a crap how it looks Smile
I also think that games were overall MUCH better before, on the nes, snes and the psx, and that's why I choose to play so many old games.
I dont think I'm alone either to think like this Wink
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PostPosted: Thu, 26th May 2005 15:38    Post subject:
well the psx era was the most boring for me.

the developers seemed to think that as long as the games were in 3d they didnt have to do much more. with some exceptions of course, but overall...wow, there came some pretty crappy games during this period.
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AnimalMother




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PostPosted: Thu, 26th May 2005 16:35    Post subject:
Pallebrun, companies pander to the majority, not the minority, so I don't think microsoft really cares. I'm sure it will hardly affect sales, if at all.


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pallebrun




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PostPosted: Thu, 26th May 2005 19:25    Post subject:
Well I think it will since I think many actually do care about old games, or being able to replace the other consoles.
But hey, it's just what I think, it can be totally wrong Razz
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PostPosted: Sat, 28th May 2005 16:39    Post subject:
Dont know if its allready been said, but I have Been reading that its just recently been confirmed that the Xbox360 is NOT backwards compatible...

Or its NOT fully backwards compatible.. -

Quote:
IGN: At the Microsoft news conference, Robbie Bach said "Yes, the Xbox 360 would be backward compatible," and before he got the rest of his sentence out, everyone cheered. The rest of the sentence was, "…with top selling games." Will you elaborate or explain what best selling games you were talking about?

Shane: I can't elaborate on specifics right now. The best thing I can say is that we're focusing on making sure the best-selling games on Xbox will be able to be played on Xbox 360 and we'll go from there. Clearly, our objective is to make all games backward compatible.

IGN: Does that include first-, second-, and third-party games?

Shane: Yes. That means all games.

IGN: Are we looking at 10, 20, 30 games? How many are we looking at?

Shane: You know, I can't say right now. As we get closer, we'll definitely be talking more about it.

IGN: How is that going to technically work?

Shane: As we get closer, we'll provide you with more details.


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