A charming thief and a band of unlikely adventurers undertake an epic heist to retrieve a lost relic, but things go dangerously awry when they run afoul of the wrong people. Dungeons & Dragons: Honor Among Thieves brings the rich world and playful spirit of the legendary roleplaying game to the big screen in a hilarious and action-packed adventure.
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I wrote March 2023 in the title but it's not showing up
1 and 2 are still amazing.
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I understand that they wanted to capture the feeling that players have with this movie, but i still can't understand why they don't use the excellent stories that have been published. There are tons of really good d&d novels that would have been awsome as movies.
I want this one to turn out good, but it looks like they are trying to get as much different d&d stuff in just one movie. Also, the other have been huge letdowns so i don't have high hopes.
That said - i hope I am wrong! (huge rpg fanatic I am. No idea why i wrote it like if Yoda said it though)
Edit: Tbh i'd rather see a live action Vox Machina.
shitloads of new stuff in my pc. Cant keep track of it all.
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The D&D creature parts look good. But it has a STRONG "This is Thor: Ragnarok cntl-c cntl-v'd into medieval times" vibe, color toning, camera angles/pans and humor feel.
Paladins is to Overwatch, what this D&D movie is to Thor/Avengers. Or at least the way the trailer was made.
To me the pic below looks like Walmart version of Avengers: Discount thor, 'close enough' black widow in the background, The chick on the right the knock off version of the tomboyish/lone wolf attitude one that netted and caught Thor (forgot her name). And the guy on the left the left 'every man too!' awkward because..Hawkeye bland character.
IF someone didn't tell me it was a different movie for that pic I would honestly think: Is that an Avengers scene in the colosseum with Jeff Goldblum I forgot about?
Spoiler:
I feel this is going to be a possibly decent D&D attempt ruined by Hollywood status quo and what seems the hot new action movie humor type right now they all have of: Obvious question -> awkward pause -> faux witty reply...laughing is expected here.
As an ooold time D&D and tabletop player. I dont see much in it I would like I think, other than the forced nods sprinkled in it will have..that 'wink wink nudge nudge' to D&D players to make them go "oooohhh I relate to that! I get that joke, its an inside joke only us D&D fans gets! (smug staring around theater at the plebs that dont play)"
While the rest of the movie will be aimed at people that dont know D&D with the above I said of: Do what marvel did, exactly what they did..they made a nerdy fringe thing popular..do that copy their movie style it has to work right?:
-Quick rapid fire cut scenes of panoramic camera sequences showing characters powers: Check.
-60's Rock background music in the trailer: Check
-Slow rotate around all the characters in one scene in heroic poses: Check
-Side wide angle slow mo shot of someone flying superhero pose like with weapon above head to attack a huge creature: Check.
-Music stops to accent a 'funny' one liner or 'only fans will get it' zinger before going back to 60's rock song: Check
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-Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. -G. Michael Hopf
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Not even how Speak with Dead works.
Make an entire trailer to appeal to the D&D players around a specific spell, then not even do that spell right
1. Only the cleric/bard casting can ask the questions.
2. It only answers questions directed at it.
3. Even if it did answer the others, it looks like a warrior (metal shoulder armor and sword buried with him), that would not know the answers of "4 more left?" and "Did that count?" as it wasnt a caster and only knows things it knew until it died.
4. Burning incense is the material component that is needed to be done, not holding your Divine Focus (minor nitpick no big deal)
Whoever wrote this scene would be a crap GM
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Yeah, the target audience seems to the the Marvel crowd who don't care about accuracy. 90% of the comments are talking about 'how it's exactly like their own DnD sessions' making me wonder what they're smoking
I know it's nitpicking. But think of a game you love (video game or not), and a movie was made, and they just randomly changed up/got wrong the powers of the characters in it, like the really broad easy to know ones. Or some had powers they didn't have at all.
They could make it just as funny, and just as action packed and follow the basic 'D&D 101' rules of the game the movie is named after. They got a bard, let him be the one to cast speak with dead..before they play it out wrong, for a joke. Which also could be done 'right' and still make the same joke just change who asks what out of context questions..
-We don't control what happens to us in life, but we control how we respond to what happens in life.
-Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. -G. Michael Hopf
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@Dxw:
Instead of researching the accuracy of their DnD script, it was more important to turn the men into jokes.
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While speaking with Variety, Daley and Goldstein discussed how Michelle Rodriguez's Holga the Barbarian and Sophia Lillis' Doric the Druid tend to engage in the frontlines of battle compared to their male party members. "That was not an attempt at wokeness on our part," Goldstein said. Daley elaborated, saying, "Swear to God, it wasn't. We liked that Holga is the bruiser that does the dirty work for Edgin, and he doesn't like to get his hands dirty. We also love emasculating leading men."
While there's nothing woke about this, it's become quite the norm in Hollylol now. Just focus on making the lead male character a complete idiot which is something Marlol did with their recent shows/films (Lolki / Thor: Lol and Thunderp). Nuance is dead.
I thought wokes core feature was LGBTQBBQ rights and forced representation agenda. Or does its core feature change depending on which was pulled out of the grab bag of reasons to stick labels on things?
And dumb men as leads, with smarter/better women is new woke stuff? Fairly odd parents cartoon is that dynamic (along with family guy, American dad, bobs burgers, Archer, etc) , many comedy movies is that dynamic, and sitcoms are LOADED with that dynamic.
They was all woke all along for decades, and didn't even know it
-We don't control what happens to us in life, but we control how we respond to what happens in life.
-Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. -G. Michael Hopf
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I never said nothing is. Saying suddenly noticing patterns that always existed, simply because you are now sensitive to them and labeling everything your pattern fits that is vaguely even a whiff of some small facet of the thing you dislike, as being that whole thing, is silly.
Correlation != Causation.
-We don't control what happens to us in life, but we control how we respond to what happens in life.
-Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. -G. Michael Hopf
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one of the core features is ridiculing white men, making men (usually fathers) look either weak, bad/evil or stupid, almost all woke series has that. it just surprised me that someone would think its not woke because someone totally woke says its not, that it just happened. maybe it's now so common and so trained into their consciousness that it just happens automagically
still triggered when i use the word eh. like clockwork. not comming back to check your reply btw, no interest at all in those 4 page discussions...
got other hobbies.
just saying out of courtesy, don't spend 5 minutes on a reply, do something creative or fun.
Just because they like making dopey men characters does not mean they are woke, just like someone disliking a particular race doesn't make them a member of the KKK or a neo-nazi, Or someone thinking the govt is bloated and needs reform and downsizing doesn't make them a socialist, or someone that thinks big corporations need to be taxed more and have less power, makes them marxist.
You think in binary: (at least for lumping in unfavorable people to you) if they have one trait, they must be part of that larger group and are part of the clone like hivemind pushing an common agenda.
If nothing else, you just water down the bite the term has for those it does apply to. You are the boy on the hill calling everything with fur a wolf. The town eventually just rolls its eyes when you cry wolf.
If we call everyone that circles even touch on a venn diagram with a thing, that thing. Well [fair is fair] we have a large number of neo-nazi, socialist and marxist on here.
If those are the rules that apply, they apply evenly and equally to gauge all, agreed?. You marxist, socialist
-We don't control what happens to us in life, but we control how we respond to what happens in life.
-Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. -G. Michael Hopf
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Still mixed feelings on it, gives a very 'What if Thor: Love and Thunder was made in medieval times' walmart version, vibe.
And after 3 trailers, 1/3 of the time in each is dedicated to the same action scenes:
-Them diving into gelatinous cube to dodge the Displacer Beast.
-Them running from Themberchaud (name of a particular chunky Red dragon).
-Fighting the Stone Golem dragon.
-Fight outside where Druid turns into OwlBear (still annoys me they do, they can't do that)
Not sure if it's them not wanting to expose more of the action scenes, or this is the only good action scenes so they are milking them as its all they have to use.
I really feel like it's them trying to pander to D&D players with token trailer scenes of "OOOHH! I KNOW WHAT THAT IS!" to cover for the fact it kinda sucks for a D&D movie it seems.
I worry its going to be like all other niche entertainment turned movie: Too many references to source casual watchers dont get the jokes/references. Yet vague and different enough to appeal to casual watchers fans are only luke warm on it after see it.
And I swear to god, if the red wizard turns out to be a lich (already ugly looking, and wearing red robe) I will facepalm at the 'lazy DM' effort of that. A lich as the BBEG [Big Bad Evil Guy] is sooo much a novice DM trope: Uh I need a bad guy. I know the big undead magic evil monster! I bet no ones used him before they will be surprised! (Players roll eyes as this is the N'th time a new DM has thought this, and they know it's a lich behind it instantly the moment some clue about it comes out)
Not saying its 'bad' to do. Just noobish. For those that need context. Its the equal to getting online for the first time and deciding making your username xXxSomethingxXx or Something69[420] is unique because you dont know better.
-We don't control what happens to us in life, but we control how we respond to what happens in life.
-Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. -G. Michael Hopf
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Several weeks before its official release, the action-comedy fantasy epic “Dungeons & Dragons: Honor Among Thieves” has premiered at the SXSW Film Festival to very good reviews. So far reviews have praised the film’s tone, inventiveness and more.
There are still too few reviews out there for a proper aggregate score, the film stands at 100% (7.4/10) on Rotten Tomatoes at present from just 8 reviews counted.
here’s a sampling of some of the reviews out there:
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“Goldstein and Daley revel in the specificities of their world. They round out the personalities of their characters, pack their screenplay with zingy one-liners and cleverly timed asides, and calibrate the action sequences so they rarely feel auxiliary to the narrative. A sense of play pulses through the film” – Lovie Gyarkye, THR
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“There’s an intricacy to the staging of “Honor Among Thieves” that helps balance out the roller-coaster derivativeness of the plot. We go with it, even as we know we’re gorging on a succulent overdose of fantasy dessert… [It] should be a major hit, because it knows how to tap into our nostalgia — not just for a game, but for the entire fantasy culture it helped to spawn. It’s the movie itself that’s role-playing.” – Owen Gleiberman, Variety
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“Conjures its own type of movie magic that proudly stands apart from other fantasy films. The heartfelt story, enchanting characters, dazzling visual effects, and fun-filled nature will allow the film to be a treasured classic. An adaptation of this caliber could be considered a roll of the dice to some, but ‘Dungeons & Dragons: Honor Among Thieves’ has already proved itself to be an ironclad winner” – Marisa Maribal, Indiewire
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“But at no point does Honor Among Thieves feel alienating to newcomers. It may be the most perfect jumping-on point for first-timers since the release of the 2nd edition in 1989. Don’t know what that this? Doesn’t matter. Honor Among Thieves is a big, bright, iridescent gem of a heist movie in a spectacular, vibrant, and fantastical world” – Richard Whittaker, The Austin Chronicle
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“The various ideas on display can sometimes cause ‘Honor Among Thieves’to feel a little uneven. Some scenes – such as a late-movie caravan heist – are genuinely inspired, but the narrative occasionally gives way to the expected mile markers of personal growth and found family. But no matter how silly or severe the movie may get, Daley and Goldstein always approach the material on its merits.” – Matthew Monagle, The Playlist
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“Dungeons and Dragons: Honor Among Thieves is also one of the better game adaptations to hit theaters due to all of the elements coming together — a strong cast, a decent story, dynamic direction and pleasing special effects” – Valerie Complex, Deadline
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“A movie whose heart hangs from its sleeve from moment one and never lets go. The script puts character first, serving up a likable ensemble of flawed, funny folks who stumble through their adventures in winning fashion. It’s textbook set-up and payoff, with every disparate element coming together in often unexpected ways. No winks, no self-effacing jokes: just a fantasy story told well.” – Jacob Hall, Slashfilm
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“Rewards the game’s fans with a satisfying journey that emphasizes companionship, tenacity, and most importantly, playfulness above all else. In other words, the movie succeeds because it actually manages to capture what makes the game such fun to play.” – Laura Bradley, The Daily Beast
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“Honor Among Thieves is more of an outright comedy, and when the movie is focused squarely on the laughs it casts a beguiling spell. However, in its effort to tick every box, some of the dramatic beats fall flat, particularly near the end where plot twists will give most viewers the gift of prophecy, as you’ll know where things are headed 30-45 minutes before the characters do” – David Crow, Den of Geek
Im take the reviews with a grain of salt.
Is it a good movie, vs a good movie about the game its named after.
Like they could make a movie about Halo, where the guy is called Master Chef, has cybernetic weapons attached to his hands, the halo ring is only around the moon and Cortana is the knightrider like voice of the warthog.
And people that never played it could declare its an amazing movie that really brings the FPS game feel to the screen.
-We don't control what happens to us in life, but we control how we respond to what happens in life.
-Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. -G. Michael Hopf
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looks like a very run if the mill 2020 movie, really bad.
an apt description:
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'What if Thor: Love and Thunder was made in medieval times' walmart version,
it seems around 15-20 yr ago Hollywood figured out they can make lot of money with solely quips as writing, bad covers of classic songs and 90% cgi / "action" productions. Well this is the case for big productions I don't think it will end, any franchise that has or gets traction will be reboot, sequel, spinoff, re-maked forever at this stage.
Am I the only one here that is actually looking forward to seeing this? I have low expectations but it looks like a decent popcorn flick and nothing more which is fine once in a while.
couleur wrote:
Everything I don't understand is a mental disorder.
couleur wrote:
If the illegals are drowning its their fault for attempting to cross the river in the first place. Especially the children. /s
russ80 wrote:
Who cares about gameplay. It's one of the few next-gen looking titles out there so BRING IT ON.
I'm not, but simply because I dont do popcorn flicks
Only movies I watch personally is ones that is of a topic/subject/established setting I like, or pure comedy that contains my type of humor and the story/plot is just there to facilitate the jokes. (Think Monty Python, HHGTTG, Disk World..etc)
And this is so wrong about a thing I like: Tabletop gaming. Probably my #1 thing I like and hold dear to me heart.
So its worst of both worlds to me: Bad at being D&D, and bad at humor beyond the dead horse being beat still by Hollywood of zingy one liner quips.
Even the 'tabletop session' humor it has, at least in the trailers dont feel like actual humor that comes out while playing. It feels like someone assigned someone to study a handful of sessions of games,and attempt to emulate that humor without ever actually doing it. (Sort of like how companies trying to use meme's in ads, feels like someone trying to 'do' meme's that never seen memes before they was told to google what they are).
-We don't control what happens to us in life, but we control how we respond to what happens in life.
-Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. -G. Michael Hopf
Disclaimer: Post made by me are of my own creation. A delusional mind relayed in text form.
My tabletop campaigns were far from scenarios like critical role or some such. Our were very light hearted and basic due to the limited time all of us had. We also had a bit of age differences (this was big during high school years) and no internet or cell phones let alone a car to get to our friends places.
Once I was out of high school I did the work full time and go to college at night deal so any free time I had was totally gone then.
Anyway, I guess my hopes are that this movie is similar to my tabletop experiences so it could be fun. The old video clip “summonergeeks” was totally my crew and I haha.
couleur wrote:
Everything I don't understand is a mental disorder.
couleur wrote:
If the illegals are drowning its their fault for attempting to cross the river in the first place. Especially the children. /s
russ80 wrote:
Who cares about gameplay. It's one of the few next-gen looking titles out there so BRING IT ON.
Gonna watch this one tomorrow. I'm a hardcore rpg fanatic, but i don't expect too much out of this movie since the other d&d movies were...well, lets face it - totally shit
Mikey5449 wrote:
My tabletop campaigns were far from scenarios like critical role or some such. Our were very light hearted and basic due to the limited time all of us had. We also had a bit of age differences (this was big during high school years) and no internet or cell phones let alone a car to get to our friends places.
Once I was out of high school I did the work full time and go to college at night deal so any free time I had was totally gone then.
Anyway, I guess my hopes are that this movie is similar to my tabletop experiences so it could be fun. The old video clip “summonergeeks” was totally my crew and I haha.
Did you play it the "american way" or the more "european way" - difference imo is that the american way of roleplaying is much about having visual stuff on the table while you play - like lots of models and such, while the european way is more about less on the table and more about imagination.
shitloads of new stuff in my pc. Cant keep track of it all.
I’ve not heard of that before but all we used was pencils and paper and imaginations. The latter is what made it so damn enjoyable. I could picture everything about what was going on and of course how my character looked haha.
couleur wrote:
Everything I don't understand is a mental disorder.
couleur wrote:
If the illegals are drowning its their fault for attempting to cross the river in the first place. Especially the children. /s
russ80 wrote:
Who cares about gameplay. It's one of the few next-gen looking titles out there so BRING IT ON.
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