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 Posted: Sat, 6th Jun 2020 17:05 Post subject: New pc build help/advice? |
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Hi all.
After that absolute nightmare i had running the other pc i made.
I sent it all back and now got fully refunded.
Now i need advice on what to buy please?
This is what i have in mind.
MSI Radeon RX 5700 MECH GP OC Graphics Card
AMD Ryzen 5 3600 AM4 CPU/ Processor with Wraith Stealth Cooler
ASRock B450 GAMING-ITX/AC AM4 DDR4 mITX Motherboard
Patriot Viper 4 16GB (2x 8GB) 3200MHz DDR4 RAM
Patriot Viper 4 Blackout Series DDR4 16GB (2 x 8GB) 3200MHz Kit
MSI B450 GAMING PRO CARBON AC AM4 DDR4 ATX Motherboard.
All from ebuyer website.
There is a few memory kits and others that meed eliminating from the list.
Is it all compatitble is the main issue i want fixed?
Plus i will need a good psu to go with it.
I have an atx case already.
Budget max 800 uk pounds.
Thanks.
Ryzen 5 3600 cpu@3.60 Mhz.
hyper x 32 gb ddr 4 memory.
Msi Carbon gaming pro ac motherboard.
Evga 600 psu.
Msi Armour rx 8 gb 5700 Graphic card.
Ps4 Standard 500gb.
Lg 4k 42 inch tv.
Oculus Quest 2.
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Nalo
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| Posted: Sat, 6th Jun 2020 17:35 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sat, 6th Jun 2020 17:37 Post subject: |
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| Nalo wrote: | | Is this thread a hoax ? |
No hoax just need info on what to buy.lol.
Ryzen 5 3600 cpu@3.60 Mhz.
hyper x 32 gb ddr 4 memory.
Msi Carbon gaming pro ac motherboard.
Evga 600 psu.
Msi Armour rx 8 gb 5700 Graphic card.
Ps4 Standard 500gb.
Lg 4k 42 inch tv.
Oculus Quest 2. |
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| Posted: Sat, 6th Jun 2020 18:17 Post subject: |
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I won't be upgrading from this rig hopefully a good few years yet.
Ryzen 5 3600 cpu@3.60 Mhz.
hyper x 32 gb ddr 4 memory.
Msi Carbon gaming pro ac motherboard.
Evga 600 psu.
Msi Armour rx 8 gb 5700 Graphic card.
Ps4 Standard 500gb.
Lg 4k 42 inch tv.
Oculus Quest 2.
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| Posted: Sat, 6th Jun 2020 18:19 Post subject: |
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| TheZor wrote: | I guess you already got storage ? It certainly looks good to me, price-wise it feels okay, if you're still willing to go for an AMD gpu 
I'm no expert when it comes to manufacturers though, waiting on the hardware specialists ! |
I have a 120 gb ssd from my old pc and a 1 tb backup hdd.
I might go for a new ssd yet for the operating system.
Ryzen 5 3600 cpu@3.60 Mhz.
hyper x 32 gb ddr 4 memory.
Msi Carbon gaming pro ac motherboard.
Evga 600 psu.
Msi Armour rx 8 gb 5700 Graphic card.
Ps4 Standard 500gb.
Lg 4k 42 inch tv.
Oculus Quest 2. |
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| Posted: Sat, 6th Jun 2020 18:20 Post subject: |
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120gb is nothing. And if you are playing games then you definitely want to install games on SSD not some slow HDD
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couleur
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| Posted: Sat, 6th Jun 2020 18:23 Post subject: |
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| madness wrote: | | 120gb is nothing. And if you are playing games then you definitely want to install games on SSD not some slow HDD |
This. Invest in at least 500Gb SSD. Its worth it.
The Rest is ok. Might try AsRock this time. Why not. I just don't understand why you would go the AMD route, when you were having issues with them.
"Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-imposed nonage. Nonage is the inability to use one's own understanding without another's guidance. This nonage is self-imposed if its cause lies not in lack of understanding but in indecision and lack of courage to use one's own mind without another's guidance. Dare to know! (Sapere aude.) "Have the courage to use your own understanding," is therefore the motto of the enlightenment."
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Morphineus
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| Posted: Sat, 6th Jun 2020 18:27 Post subject: |
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Why is there a mini itx board on your list?
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couleur
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| Posted: Sat, 6th Jun 2020 18:29 Post subject: |
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Indeed. I didn't even see that. They should be even more expensive.
"Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-imposed nonage. Nonage is the inability to use one's own understanding without another's guidance. This nonage is self-imposed if its cause lies not in lack of understanding but in indecision and lack of courage to use one's own mind without another's guidance. Dare to know! (Sapere aude.) "Have the courage to use your own understanding," is therefore the motto of the enlightenment."
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| Posted: Sat, 6th Jun 2020 18:41 Post subject: |
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I do not know people i am asking for help haha 
Ryzen 5 3600 cpu@3.60 Mhz.
hyper x 32 gb ddr 4 memory.
Msi Carbon gaming pro ac motherboard.
Evga 600 psu.
Msi Armour rx 8 gb 5700 Graphic card.
Ps4 Standard 500gb.
Lg 4k 42 inch tv.
Oculus Quest 2.
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Morphineus
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| Posted: Sat, 6th Jun 2020 18:54 Post subject: |
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https://pcpartpicker.com/
Do that first, look at a few builds, make a few builds and come back to us. Us just telling you what to buy doesn't help you in the long run. I mean it might be nice to learn a thing or two (they have guides). Especially considering that hoax thread...
And take your time, no need to rush it.
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couleur
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| Posted: Sat, 6th Jun 2020 19:34 Post subject: |
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Yes i will be buying it in parts as i can get better parts for a cheaper price.
I will try the pcparts website now thanks for thr tip.
Ryzen 5 3600 cpu@3.60 Mhz.
hyper x 32 gb ddr 4 memory.
Msi Carbon gaming pro ac motherboard.
Evga 600 psu.
Msi Armour rx 8 gb 5700 Graphic card.
Ps4 Standard 500gb.
Lg 4k 42 inch tv.
Oculus Quest 2.
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| Posted: Sun, 7th Jun 2020 15:48 Post subject: |
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https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B089Q6D44M/ref=cm_sw_r_apa_i_9No3Eb022EDM0
Will these ssd be good for gaming thinking on buying 2 of them as there cheap considering other options.
Thr difference between hdd and ssd for gaming is big.
But ive just watched a video in the ssd thread in this forum and thr video is saying there is hardly no difference in gaming on different types of ssd's?
Ryzen 5 3600 cpu@3.60 Mhz.
hyper x 32 gb ddr 4 memory.
Msi Carbon gaming pro ac motherboard.
Evga 600 psu.
Msi Armour rx 8 gb 5700 Graphic card.
Ps4 Standard 500gb.
Lg 4k 42 inch tv.
Oculus Quest 2.
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couleur
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| Posted: Sun, 7th Jun 2020 16:55 Post subject: |
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I wouldn't get a noname brand for your SSD. Dont be tempted by these low prices. Find some Crucial BX, Corsair, Kingston or Samsung with around 500r/500w and you're good.
The difference in gaming itself isn't that big but loading times, installation and copying stuff is alot faster. And considering modern games have tens of gigabytes you'll be more than happy being able to install some of the games on your SSD. I still use a 2TB HDD for the older titles.
"Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-imposed nonage. Nonage is the inability to use one's own understanding without another's guidance. This nonage is self-imposed if its cause lies not in lack of understanding but in indecision and lack of courage to use one's own mind without another's guidance. Dare to know! (Sapere aude.) "Have the courage to use your own understanding," is therefore the motto of the enlightenment."
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| Posted: Sun, 7th Jun 2020 17:03 Post subject: |
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I am struggling choosing a psu as there are not many in the ebuyer website.
Was watchimg a youtube video about the lack of current psu's at thr moment.
But here is the pc i am thinking upto now.
MSI Radeon RX 5700 MECH GP OC Graphics Card
(Going to overclcok and undervolt the get rx 5700 xt levels)
AMD Ryzen 5 3600 AM4 CPU/ Processor with Wraith Stealth Cooler
(I ordered this in my precious build what i sent back and it seems a solid cpu).
MSI B450 GAMING PRO CARBON AC AM4 DDR4 ATX Motherboard
(I have read a bios update is needed for thr ryzen 5 3600 cpu but once done its all good)
StarTech.com 1.5g Metal OxIDE Thermal CPU Paste Compound Tube for Heatsink - cpu paste - thermal compound - thermal grease
(The ryzen 5 3600 has cpu compound pads on it but ill put cpu paste on too keep it cooler)
HyperX FURY 16GB (2x 8GB) 3200MHz DDR4 RAM - HX432C16FB3K2/16
(Is there any better version memory to get?
I am not tech savvy with memory so any info would be great)
Aerocool Cylon 700w 80+ Psu
(This psu sounds decent but not many on there website so any recom3ndations here please?)
Thats what i am thinking.
All in £745.76.
Ryzen 5 3600 cpu@3.60 Mhz.
hyper x 32 gb ddr 4 memory.
Msi Carbon gaming pro ac motherboard.
Evga 600 psu.
Msi Armour rx 8 gb 5700 Graphic card.
Ps4 Standard 500gb.
Lg 4k 42 inch tv.
Oculus Quest 2.
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| Posted: Sun, 7th Jun 2020 17:07 Post subject: |
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| couleur wrote: | I wouldn't get a noname brand for your SSD. Dont be tempted by these low prices. Find some Crucial BX, Corsair, Kingston or Samsung with around 500r/500w and you're good.
The difference in gaming itself isn't that big but loading times, installation and copying stuff is alot faster. And considering modern games have tens of gigabytes you'll be more than happy being able to install some of the games on your SSD. I still use a 2TB HDD for the older titles. |
I am really topping my budget atm so anything not crazily expensive i need but i do want performace which is always a bummer compared with price.
Have you any links please?
Ryzen 5 3600 cpu@3.60 Mhz.
hyper x 32 gb ddr 4 memory.
Msi Carbon gaming pro ac motherboard.
Evga 600 psu.
Msi Armour rx 8 gb 5700 Graphic card.
Ps4 Standard 500gb.
Lg 4k 42 inch tv.
Oculus Quest 2. |
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couleur
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| Posted: Sun, 7th Jun 2020 17:22 Post subject: |
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What about a psu as i know these are important parts of a new pc build?
Is that one i have choosen good enough?
Or is there a better alternatative
Is it compatable etc?
Ryzen 5 3600 cpu@3.60 Mhz.
hyper x 32 gb ddr 4 memory.
Msi Carbon gaming pro ac motherboard.
Evga 600 psu.
Msi Armour rx 8 gb 5700 Graphic card.
Ps4 Standard 500gb.
Lg 4k 42 inch tv.
Oculus Quest 2.
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| Posted: Sun, 7th Jun 2020 17:35 Post subject: |
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I don't know Aerocool as a manufacturer so they might well be good, but I'd rather go for a well-known, reputable brand when it comes to PSUs, something like the Cooler Master MasterWatt 750W sounds good and should be within your budget.
R5 5600X - 3070FE - 16GB DDR4 3600 - Asus B550 TUF Gaming Plus - BeQuiet Straight Power 11 750W - Pure Base 500DX
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couleur
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| Posted: Sun, 7th Jun 2020 17:39 Post subject: |
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I suppose it will work, but honestly, I don't like any of the PSUs listed on that site.
Good PSUs in the 600W range will start at 80-100 bucks and more. Something like Seasonic, or be quiet or Corsair etc. with at least 7 years warranty. Gold plus efficiency should be minimum.
Remember: buy cheap, buy twice.
"Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-imposed nonage. Nonage is the inability to use one's own understanding without another's guidance. This nonage is self-imposed if its cause lies not in lack of understanding but in indecision and lack of courage to use one's own mind without another's guidance. Dare to know! (Sapere aude.) "Have the courage to use your own understanding," is therefore the motto of the enlightenment."
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| Posted: Sun, 7th Jun 2020 17:49 Post subject: |
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https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01127D0MY/ref=cm_sw_r_apa_i_FXq3EbKAY0T4P
Will this work good in the pc i selected?
Does it have the needed connectors etc?
Maybe morr importantly will it fit in the pc case i have?
Phanteks Eclipse P300 Air Midi Tower Case - Black Window
Ryzen 5 3600 cpu@3.60 Mhz.
hyper x 32 gb ddr 4 memory.
Msi Carbon gaming pro ac motherboard.
Evga 600 psu.
Msi Armour rx 8 gb 5700 Graphic card.
Ps4 Standard 500gb.
Lg 4k 42 inch tv.
Oculus Quest 2.
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| Posted: Sun, 7th Jun 2020 18:49 Post subject: |
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i don't say this often, but sometimes it's the best thing to just buy a pre build pc.
yes some parts may be worse then, like the power supply, a low end motherboard or slower ram, but seeing your parts, your budget and the knowledge about building it on your own and not having any problems, it may be the best to buy a complete pre build pc for your budget.
everything will be done for you and you will have warranty and pretty much the same performance, as when you would build it yourself.
and no this isn't an attack on you and please don't be offended by this.
i know some people who did this, since they have no clue what they are doing and it's just the best for them. like my parents, older friends or twitch streamers were i was mod for some time.
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Morphineus
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| Posted: Sun, 7th Jun 2020 19:51 Post subject: |
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Quite a few places that build the PC to your spec as well.
I can recommend Alternate for it. One time I was just too busy with work for the next months that I decided to try out them building my PC. I picked the parts and what arrived had me surprised a clean professional build like I would do myself.
As to your choices, I'll check it but not today. Just done a whole day of garden work and I'm left with various body aches and too tired to use my mind. 
Edit: That EVGA will fit in an ATX case and yes that case is ATX.
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| Posted: Sun, 7th Jun 2020 20:59 Post subject: |
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I have ordered it finally £784 in total i am happy with this just hope this one frigging works i 5hik it will.
MSI Radeon RX 5700 MECH GP OC Graphics Card
AMD Ryzen 5 3600 AM4 CPU/ Processor with Wraith Stealth Cooler
MSI B450 GAMING PRO CARBON AC AM4 DDR4 ATX Motherboard
HyperX FURY 16GB (2x 8GB) 3200MHz Ddr 400.
EVGA 600 W1, 80+ WHITE 600W
WD Green 480GB 2.5" 7mm Solid State Drive
I am very happy with that tbh.
Ryzen 5 3600 cpu@3.60 Mhz.
hyper x 32 gb ddr 4 memory.
Msi Carbon gaming pro ac motherboard.
Evga 600 psu.
Msi Armour rx 8 gb 5700 Graphic card.
Ps4 Standard 500gb.
Lg 4k 42 inch tv.
Oculus Quest 2.
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couleur
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| Posted: Sun, 7th Jun 2020 21:11 Post subject: |
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Well, better luck this time!
"Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-imposed nonage. Nonage is the inability to use one's own understanding without another's guidance. This nonage is self-imposed if its cause lies not in lack of understanding but in indecision and lack of courage to use one's own mind without another's guidance. Dare to know! (Sapere aude.) "Have the courage to use your own understanding," is therefore the motto of the enlightenment."
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| Posted: Mon, 8th Jun 2020 04:01 Post subject: |
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| couleur wrote: | | Well, better luck this time! |
Thankyou 
And thanks everyone for the tips.
I am glad i changed the graphic card from an rx 580 8gb to this RTX 5700 from the other thread i made.
If i cannot get this build working correctly i will buy a pre made one.
Be a first that though built all my pc's and did not really have major issues.
That last one was madness with the issues.
Ryzen 5 3600 cpu@3.60 Mhz.
hyper x 32 gb ddr 4 memory.
Msi Carbon gaming pro ac motherboard.
Evga 600 psu.
Msi Armour rx 8 gb 5700 Graphic card.
Ps4 Standard 500gb.
Lg 4k 42 inch tv.
Oculus Quest 2. |
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