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Lithy




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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Oct 2008 15:05    Post subject: WarCraft IV
Well seems it is official now:

http://www.games.tiscali.cz/news/news.asp?id=29753&r=top

During press conference Rob Pardo talked about split of StarCraftu II into three separate games, and concluded that "same principle will work as well as in Warcraft IV"



P.s. delete this thread if older one exist, however I failed to find one Smile


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Sin317
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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Oct 2008 15:08    Post subject:
was there ever any doubt ?

but please make a proper thread instead of 1 link in czech ...
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djaoni




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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Oct 2008 15:33    Post subject:
I wasn't expecting it since they're spitting out WoW expansions.
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Sajuuk_Khar




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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Oct 2008 16:12    Post subject:
so this is real? nice.... i think (even if ii don't play War3 or War4)


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Clevesa




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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Oct 2008 16:13    Post subject:
Sin317 wrote:
was there ever any doubt ?


Yeah, there was no doubt. They are developing 4 games at the same time. Only Blizzard can amount so much resources and create 4 amazing games( I hope).
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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Oct 2008 16:26    Post subject:
Clevesa wrote:
Sin317 wrote:
was there ever any doubt ?


Yeah, there was no doubt. They are developing 4 games at the same time. Only Blizzard can amount so much resources and create 4 amazing games( I hope).


What are those 4 amazing games ur talking about?


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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Oct 2008 16:30    Post subject:
Support81 wrote:
Clevesa wrote:
Sin317 wrote:
was there ever any doubt ?


Yeah, there was no doubt. They are developing 4 games at the same time. Only Blizzard can amount so much resources and create 4 amazing games( I hope).


What are those 4 amazing games ur talking about?

Diablo III, Starcraft II: Terran campaign, Starcraft II: Zerg campaign, Starcraft II: Protoss campaign.


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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Oct 2008 16:31    Post subject:
Ispep wrote:
Support81 wrote:
Clevesa wrote:


Yeah, there was no doubt. They are developing 4 games at the same time. Only Blizzard can amount so much resources and create 4 amazing games( I hope).


What are those 4 amazing games ur talking about?

Diablo III, Starcraft II: Terran campaign, Starcraft II: Zerg campaign, Starcraft II: Protoss campaign.


lol yea. Altough i don't see what makes SC2 an amazing game?
It dosen't stick out in anything special iv seen, but maybe i just missed something?


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Repetitious
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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Oct 2008 16:34    Post subject:
It seems Warcraft IV
will be in number of parts too,like starcraft 2.
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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Oct 2008 16:52    Post subject:
Support81 wrote:
Ispep wrote:
Support81 wrote:


What are those 4 amazing games ur talking about?

Diablo III, Starcraft II: Terran campaign, Starcraft II: Zerg campaign, Starcraft II: Protoss campaign.


lol yea. Altough i don't see what makes SC2 an amazing game?
It dosen't stick out in anything special iv seen, but maybe i just missed something?



apparently you missed video game history ...
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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Oct 2008 18:04    Post subject:
Sin317 wrote:
Support81 wrote:
Ispep wrote:

Diablo III, Starcraft II: Terran campaign, Starcraft II: Zerg campaign, Starcraft II: Protoss campaign.


lol yea. Altough i don't see what makes SC2 an amazing game?
It dosen't stick out in anything special iv seen, but maybe i just missed something?



apparently you missed video game history ...



Enlighten me?
SC was nothing but a clone of others RTS at the time.


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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Oct 2008 18:35    Post subject:
Clone? It took the best bits from existing titles and whilst it didn't necessarily 'redefine the genre' it certainly set the standard. You aren't expected to enjoy every game that's ever released, so even if you don't like Starcraft you should at least be able to appreciate it's place in the annals of history.


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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Oct 2008 18:42    Post subject:
Support81 wrote:
Sin317 wrote:
Support81 wrote:


lol yea. Altough i don't see what makes SC2 an amazing game?
It dosen't stick out in anything special iv seen, but maybe i just missed something?



apparently you missed video game history ...



Enlighten me?
SC was nothing but a clone of others RTS at the time.

same here played it and later the 3 expansions ... but still for me it was a average RTS ,

People only say it was great for one reason , at the time of the release there was a internet boom revolution , new speeds ,new ways to communicate and the NetCafe and in those only one game was played Starcraft , starcraft Lan parties - you can say like Doom and later Quake was the FPS revolution for netplay , this was a netplay revolution for RTS.... so yeah the internet addicts came later and Korea with their "Fanatics"

as you can see SC was only great for those that liked netplay for others it was a boring game , it became only famous because of Koreans and the pre-rendered Cutscenes with above average at that time story line and production quality

and Ispep the only game that Revolutionized Rts was Dune 2 and later C&C ... warcraft and SC added nothing to this genre
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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Oct 2008 18:51    Post subject:
You played the 3 expansions of Starcraft? Oh gee must've missed them.
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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Oct 2008 19:20    Post subject:
Spiderman wrote:
Support81 wrote:
Sin317 wrote:



apparently you missed video game history ...



Enlighten me?
SC was nothing but a clone of others RTS at the time.

same here played it and later the 3 expansions ... but still for me it was a average RTS ,

People only say it was great for one reason , at the time of the release there was a internet boom revolution , new speeds ,new ways to communicate and the NetCafe and in those only one game was played Starcraft , starcraft Lan parties - you can say like Doom and later Quake was the FPS revolution for netplay , this was a netplay revolution for RTS.... so yeah the internet addicts came later and Korea with their "Fanatics"

as you can see SC was only great for those that liked netplay for others it was a boring game , it became only famous because of Koreans and the pre-rendered Cutscenes with above average at that time story line and production quality

and Ispep the only game that Revolutionized Rts was Dune 2 and later C&C ... warcraft and SC added nothing to this genre


um what are you talking about, with C&C (favorite of all time) all you had to do was collect ore, that was it, with WC and SC, you had to decide what was more important in the head of the battle, the crystals, harvesting the gas or building more houses to get more units.


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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Oct 2008 20:13    Post subject:
Spiderman wrote:
Support81 wrote:
Sin317 wrote:



apparently you missed video game history ...



Enlighten me?
SC was nothing but a clone of others RTS at the time.

same here played it and later the 3 expansions ... but still for me it was a average RTS ,

People only say it was great for one reason , at the time of the release there was a internet boom revolution , new speeds ,new ways to communicate and the NetCafe and in those only one game was played Starcraft , starcraft Lan parties - you can say like Doom and later Quake was the FPS revolution for netplay , this was a netplay revolution for RTS.... so yeah the internet addicts came later and Korea with their "Fanatics"

as you can see SC was only great for those that liked netplay for others it was a boring game , it became only famous because of Koreans and the pre-rendered Cutscenes with above average at that time story line and production quality

and Ispep the only game that Revolutionized Rts was Dune 2 and later C&C ... warcraft and SC added nothing to this genre


I agree with Ispep. Starcraft was 'the' game that showed people what good balanced online rts can be. And that is revolution in its own way. A game doesn't need to be perfect in every aspect to be ground braking. C&C Tiberian Sun that came about at the same time also had online, but it was unoptimized and just didn't accomplish what Blizzard did with their MP of the game.
It just isn't true that only SC coming out at right time made it MP hit. Not only was its network code optimised as it was not seen before but it was patched all the time. They constantly patched exploits, balance problems and most importantly, they didn't have only one server next to their office.
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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Oct 2008 20:16    Post subject:
Spiderman wrote:


and Ispep the only game that Revolutionized Rts was Dune 2 and later C&C ... warcraft and SC added nothing to this genre


they added micro to the genre, and for a lot of people, it is the bread and butter of RTS games.
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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Oct 2008 20:37    Post subject:
djaoni wrote:
You played the 3 expansions of Starcraft? Oh gee must've missed them.

Starcraft Broodwar
Starcraft Insurrection
Starcraft Stellar Forces

there even was Starcraft Retribution , but didn't bothered to play this expansion , so you can say there was 4 expansion packs for Starcraft

o and if i wanted micromanaging i would play AIVN , Simcity or Centurion then
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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Oct 2008 20:58    Post subject:
Spiderman wrote:
djaoni wrote:
You played the 3 expansions of Starcraft? Oh gee must've missed them.

Starcraft Broodwar
Starcraft Insurrection
Starcraft Stellar Forces

there even was Starcraft Retribution , but didn't bothered to play this expansion , so you can say there was 4 expansion packs for Starcraft

o and if i wanted micromanaging i would play AIVN , Simcity or Centurion then

brood war was the only "real" expansion, the rest are just shitty mission packs.

and the whole micromanagement thing didn't revolutionize the rts genre, but it was a nice addition that was copied in nearly every other rts game later on. in that sense sc was innovative.
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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Oct 2008 23:37    Post subject:
oh com'on people, you really think this argument/contra-argument will get you somewhere?

Dune 2, C&C, SC, WC .... they all added something (obviously). afterall, we all know them.


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PostPosted: Sun, 12th Oct 2008 00:04    Post subject:
I just hope W4 plays more like first two and less than last one.
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PostPosted: Sun, 12th Oct 2008 00:15    Post subject:
fawe4 wrote:
I just hope W4 plays more like first two and less than last one.


i just hope it will be good and that they pull along the story nicely Wink

but seriously, wc1+2 are just outdated by today's gameplay standards and wc3 was the natural (although imho not the ideal) evolution of the series...wouldn't be surprised if they laid the focus even more on heroes and micromanagement in part 4.
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PostPosted: Sun, 12th Oct 2008 00:38    Post subject:
fawe4 wrote:
I just hope W4 plays more like first two and less than last one.

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PostPosted: Sun, 12th Oct 2008 01:23    Post subject:
fawe4 wrote:
I just hope W4 plays more like first two and less than last one.


I'm with you on this one...I didnt like WC3 at all.


shitloads of new stuff in my pc. Cant keep track of it all.
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PostPosted: Sun, 12th Oct 2008 01:42    Post subject: Re: WarCraft IV
Lithy wrote:
Well seems it is official now:

http://www.games.tiscali.cz/news/news.asp?id=29753&r=top

P.s. delete this thread if older one exist, however I failed to find one Smile
Man, are you joking? I cannot read that language.
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PostPosted: Sun, 12th Oct 2008 02:39    Post subject:
Make sure NeHoMaR can read it next time Wink


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English, motherfucker, do you speak it ?!
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If everyone here remembers my obsession with Warcraft lore.....

Warcraft 3 is probably one of my favourite games of all time, if not my favourite.
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If everyone here remembers my obsession with Warcraft lore.....

Warcraft 3 is probably one of my favourite games of all time, if not my favourite.


Were you the one obsessed with DotA? ;P You must be pumped for League of Legends then, haha.


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