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 Posted: Fri, 12th Jun 2020 20:16 Post subject: Black Lives Matter protests and cancellations |
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Like seriously? WTF is going on?
Every network is scared shitless now.
| Quote: | In the wake of the cancellation of “Cops” and “Live P.D.” and the temporary pulling of “Gone with the Wind” from HBO Max, numerous other shows are suddenly finding themselves being abruptly pulled from streaming services.
The decisions come as networks and streaming services are reassessing what is considered acceptable in the wake of Black Lives Matter protests around the world. However there has been push back with claims that such censorship shifts the focus away from the real points and aims of the movement.
As previously reported, UK comedy shows “Little Britain,” “The Mighty Boosh” and “The League of Gentlemen” have all been removed from Netflix & BBC iPlayer along with numerous shows from Australian comedian Chris Lilley like “Summer Heights High” and “Angry Boys”. Many of these series had their white male hosts playing black and Asian characters complete with brownface makeup.
Now comes word of other shows being yanked. One of the most unexpected is a single episode of vintage Brit comedy “Fawlty Towers” titled “The Germans”. The episode is one of the show’s most famous for its often repeated line “don’t mention the war” and star John Cleese’s goose-stepping impersonation of Adolf Hitler.
However the episode also features regular character The Major using racial slurs about the West Indies cricket team. The BBC removed this element from repeat transmissions in 2013, but the UKTV service was airing the unedited version and so that episode has been temporarily pulled from said service.
Cleese himself, speaking with The Sydney Morning Herald newspaper in Australia, says the whole point of the episode was to critique racist attitudes:
“One of the things I’ve learned in the last 180 years is that people have very different senses of humor. Some of them understand that if you put nonsense words into the mouth of someone you want to make fun of, you’re not broadcasting their views, you’re making fun of them. The Major was an old fossil left over from decades before. We were not supporting his views, we were making fun of them.”
Meanwhile Vulture is reporting that 1980s sitcom “The Dukes of Hazzard” has been flagged for internal review at Amazon. The series has been on notice for years over concerns about the use of the Confederate flag on the lead character’s iconic vehicle the General Lee, but reportedly no decision has been reached internally at this point about whether to yank it from the free IMDB TV service.
Then there are some entirely unexpected targets, such as Nickelodeon’s animated kids series “Paw Patrol” according to The New York Post. That series, which depicts anthropomorphized pets doing various blue-collar jobs, it taking heat on social media for its German shepherd character Chase who is a police officer in the series and is portrayed positively. |
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| Posted: Fri, 12th Jun 2020 20:41 Post subject: |
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Morphineus
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| Posted: Fri, 12th Jun 2020 21:32 Post subject: |
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Are we seeing the spasms of an empire in decline?
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| Posted: Fri, 12th Jun 2020 21:34 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Fri, 12th Jun 2020 22:02 Post subject: |
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People need to calm to fuck down. Simply include a viewer discretion notification at the beginning of the program. People can then decide before they watch if they want to be irrationally outraged by something from a bygone era. It's gone bonkers. Literally every old show will have depictions and trends that are outdated by today's standards. The BBC can shove their licence fee up their bollocks.
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| Posted: Fri, 12th Jun 2020 22:30 Post subject: |
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Rayciss to be cancelled soon, keep it up! 
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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| Posted: Fri, 12th Jun 2020 22:59 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Fri, 12th Jun 2020 23:37 Post subject: |
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That is indeed bullshit.
Especially when it hits shows or movies that are not racist in the first place and don't even have a message to that matter (the mighty boosh, seriously?)
or shows that actually make fun of racists etc. (that faulty towers episode etc.) or even movies that depict an era, without glorifying it.
That is wrong.
I have no issues with slave traders and confederate statues who are standing in public spaces for all to see (or shown to all, rather), but movies and tv shows?
Everybody is free to watch what he wants... and it's not like they are showing Triumph des Willens or Birth of a nation on Netflix or Amazon, lol.
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| Posted: Fri, 12th Jun 2020 23:45 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sat, 13th Jun 2020 00:05 Post subject: |
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As always, using logic and reason is automatically out of the picture when it comes to sending messages and defending the right causes. Reactions must obligatorily go too far, to the point that instead of helping they actually cause unnecessary collateral chaos that jeopardizes the good intentions. It is all so very silly, the result of a society that's essentially a headless chicken.
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| Posted: Sat, 13th Jun 2020 06:57 Post subject: |
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Why cant they cancel shows that deserves it instead? Like all reality shows where they follow some celebrities daily life?
shitloads of new stuff in my pc. Cant keep track of it all.
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| Posted: Sat, 13th Jun 2020 10:39 Post subject: |
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They can destroy their local Starbucks and Walmarts in their peaceful protests against their white masters all they want, but fucking censoring/removing Fawly Towers is going too far.
Fucking world's gone crazy. Even more than usual.
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| Posted: Sat, 13th Jun 2020 11:57 Post subject: |
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Most shows/movies with a pretty much all black cast make fun of white people. We all know it's just for the lulz, so it's not a problem. The characters are over the top, caricatures and stereotypes. While it's not a problem when it's a whitey, why is it a problem when it's a blackie? I understand racism is and always will be a problem, but I think people are smart enough to differentiate between racism and parody.
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| Posted: Sat, 13th Jun 2020 12:04 Post subject: |
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| Mister_s wrote: | | Most shows/movies with a pretty much all black cast make fun of white people. We all know it's just for the lulz, so it's not a problem. The characters are over the top, caricatures and stereotypes. While it's not a problem when it's a whitey, why is it a problem when it's a blackie? I understand racism is and always will be a problem, but I think people are smart enough to understand to differentiate between racism and parody. |
The only thing we need to understand here is that the corporate marketing intelligence level is just high enough to ride a trend and virtue signal some shit. This is the US we're talking about. Its all about having your flags in the right wind at the right moment. Nobody really cares about racism and the intelligence level of this society just isn't that high. If it were, the shows wouldn't be cancelled because people would just understand the racism themselves and either laugh at it or just don't watch it.
But on the level we're talking here, they just aren't that smart.
"Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-imposed nonage. Nonage is the inability to use one's own understanding without another's guidance. This nonage is self-imposed if its cause lies not in lack of understanding but in indecision and lack of courage to use one's own mind without another's guidance. Dare to know! (Sapere aude.) "Have the courage to use your own understanding," is therefore the motto of the enlightenment."
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| Posted: Sat, 13th Jun 2020 12:04 Post subject: |
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there is a simple rule:
Minorities can make fun of majorities, but not the other way around. That's just how it is.
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| Posted: Sat, 13th Jun 2020 12:06 Post subject: |
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| Mister_s wrote: | | Most shows/movies with a pretty much all black cast make fun of white people. We all know it's just for the lulz, so it's not a problem. The characters are over the top, caricatures and stereotypes. While it's not a problem when it's a whitey, why is it a problem when it's a blackie? I understand racism is and always will be a problem, but I think people are smart enough to understand to differentiate between racism and parody. |
I'd guess it's the power disparity. Comedy is understood to be the tool of the lower classes to "get back" at people higher up (or on the same rung as them on) the social ladder. Once people with more power start making fun of people below them, that comes across as it being in bad taste.
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| Posted: Sat, 13th Jun 2020 12:09 Post subject: |
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| Sin317 wrote: | there is a simple rule:
Minorities can make fun of majorities, but not the other way around. That's just how it is. |
This is the bottom line. Here's a private interaction on twitter between Anthony Joshua and Eddie Chambers from less than three years ago. Last week this hypocrite was telling black people not to shop in white owned businesses.
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| Posted: Sat, 13th Jun 2020 12:20 Post subject: |
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As sad as this makes me too, its not in the same category and you know it.  |
We'll see if it's not in the same category...
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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| Posted: Sat, 13th Jun 2020 12:25 Post subject: |
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I understand the notion obviously, but I don't understand how other people don't understand it either. To give an example, I'm a Turk living in the Netherlands. I never understood how when a Turk opening a shop and only employing other Turks isn't a problem, while when a Dutch guy won't hire any Turks it's a disgrace.
It's the human condition though. The people screamig for thinghs like equality and freedom of thought the hardest are themselves usually the bigots with closed minds. Being a hardcore hippy is as bad as being a hardcore rightwing nut IMO. We need the middle, tolerate others while doing your own thing within moral reason.
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