GREAT wireless gaming mouse?
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X_Dror




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PostPosted: Sat, 21st Nov 2020 18:08    Post subject: GREAT wireless gaming mouse?
So I've been really frustrated with my picks for mouse this past couple of years.

First I went with a Logitech G703 which was OK after a month or so the middle click got completely wrecked with double-clicks and miss-clicks.

I then got a Logitech G Pro Wireless but after a few months its middle button also got messed up, furthermore it's crappy Micro-USB port just stopped charging at one point.

I did like the G Pro Wireless better though because I got big hands and it was more comfortable with a palm grip rather than a claw grip.

So what I'm looking for is as follows:

1. A big mouse for a palm grip for someone with relatively large palms.
2. One that does not break easily -- no miss-clicks, no double-clicks and no bad charging ports.
3. I don't mind so much about the price as long as it will survive for at least 2 years.

I was looking at:

1. Corsair Dark Core - but it seems to have an issue in which after a short while the right click and scroll become "squeaky" - https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Wireless-Slipstream-Technology-Certified/dp/B082LVNJ4W?th=1
2. Razer Viper Ultimate - seems to have an issue in which it might also just stop charging at one point (damned Micro-USB port). https://www.amazon.com/product-reviews/B07YPC3BQC

Anyone had better luck with a mouse? It seems like every mouse got a serious durability issue in which it can break just after a month. What happened to the old and trusty Microsoft mice we used to have in the early 2000s?
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freiwald




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PostPosted: Sat, 21st Nov 2020 18:10    Post subject:
corsair uses the same wrong switches just like logitech, it's only matter of time until they will double click.
razer has own optical switches which should work better, but you will need the software otherwise you will have rgb rainbow effects all the time and the overall quality doesn't seem to be that good.

but overall it can't get worse then logitech. i will never buy any razer product because of the need of software but if you don't care it's worth a try. it's not like there are many options for good wireless devices except logitech, corsair and razer. at least to my knowledge.
the razer mouse should also have a charging dock, so no need for micro usb. (at least on the mouse itself)
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scaramonga




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PostPosted: Sat, 21st Nov 2020 22:23    Post subject:
The switches in these mice are designed that way, i.e, to not last very long, aka, you will be forced to buy another around the time the Warranty expires, or a bit longer, if your lucky Wink It's the way it is. If your competent with a soldering iron/electronics etc., then just get good replacement switches (cheap as chips) for when the inevitable happens Smile There was a link to them in that other mouse thread somewhere. One of the reasons as to why older mice are still going strong today, much better quality, with no underhand rip off strategy in mind Wink
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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd Nov 2020 00:51    Post subject:
https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Lightspeed-Rechargeable-Compatible-Ambidextrous/dp/B07NSVMT22

I've got the 902. Best mouse i've ever owned, I've slammed it a few times in frustration, have used it a shit ton for the past like 3-4 years, all teh buttons are still as solid as the day I bough it.

Last time I liked a mouse this much was the original Razer Diamondback before razer turned into garbage.


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JackQ
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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd Nov 2020 06:58    Post subject:
G502 LIGHTSPEED Wireless is great, I also had the g903, but recently it started malfunction and started doing issues with every PC I paired with it.


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Sauronich




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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd Nov 2020 08:14    Post subject:
I also got fed up with double clicks and bought a Viper Ultimate. I love this mouse apart from one thing - the scroll wheel is much louder that the Logitech ones when scrolling up. I've gotten used to it now, but it was pretty annoying the first couple of weeks.

The port is not a problem since the mouse came with a wireless charging dock.

freiwald wrote:
you will need the software otherwise you will have rgb rainbow effects all the time

That's not exactly correct. If you customize the colors and then exit Synapse, you'll get the rainbow effects, but if you disable RGB completely, it'll stay off even without the software running.


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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd Nov 2020 09:01    Post subject:
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freiwald




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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd Nov 2020 11:06    Post subject:
Interinactive wrote:
This is what I use

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/razer-mamba-wireless

Works fine without installing software

but doesn't save the lightning options on the onboard memory does it?
https://www.reddit.com/r/razer/comments/f0xe8j/razer_mamba_wireless_store_lighting_effects_on/
Sauronich wrote:
That's not exactly correct. If you customize the colors and then exit Synapse, you'll get the rainbow effects, but if you disable RGB completely, it'll stay off even without the software running.

oh didn't knew that! thank you i thought it's always like that with razer since i have seen so many complaints about that. so razer is an option afterall. Surprised even while booting and all?
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freiwald




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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd Nov 2020 11:14    Post subject:
Interinactive wrote:
I have no idea, but I can tell you that I'm using the mouse right now, Synapse isn't installed and none of its lights are on

I'm thinking maybe I disabled them on a different PC and it remembered? Otherwise I have no idea, I've had it for a while now. It's a great mouse for games + drawing

thank you Smile
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Breezer_




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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd Nov 2020 11:20    Post subject:
Got the Razer Viper Ultimate, so accurate and light, best wireless so far i have tried, have not had any charging problems, i always charge it in the dock. Was using Logitech G602 before, but had 2 of them starting doing the infamous "double click", i think Razer optical switches will be much more durable.
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Danyutz




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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd Nov 2020 11:31    Post subject:
In my attempt to switch to wireless setup, I also bought the G703, which i returned the next day, maybe I got a faulty unit, but the cursor was stuttering from time to time, when I was moving it from left to right or longer strokes, the cursor ended up all the way in an instant. The sensitivity felt off from the start, even tho I was using the same DPi as I use on my G402.

I'm back to wired.
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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd Nov 2020 15:10    Post subject:
Got the razer viper ultimate. Its nuts/ The thing is comfortable and super light. Battery lasts whole week


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PickupArtist




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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd Nov 2020 18:16    Post subject:
my first wireles expeirence was mx700, it was dreadfull, responces felt like it lagged half a second behind, havent tried since

wireles keyboard however i had zero issues with from logitech, for now almost 18 years, except for extreme fastbattery depletion after a while Sad
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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd Nov 2020 20:26    Post subject:
Wireless is as good as wired these days, unless you buy some 5 eur shit.
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X_Dror




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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd Nov 2020 22:07    Post subject:
Thanks everyone! I'll probably go with the Razer Viper Ultimate, I just hope it will fit my grip style as I liked the G Pro Wireless a lot better than G703.

God I wish there would have been a wider selection.
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bringiton




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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd Nov 2020 22:30    Post subject:
I’ll also go for the Viper Ultimate soon. I was already pissed off inter other mouse thread because there seems to be no viable rather high end hardware for these kind of things. But now that I found out that you can disable RGB lights on the rauer nice, I might try it out.

If you are from EU, it’s currently quite cheap at Amazon IT:
https://www.amazon.it/Razer-Ultimate-Wireless-Batteria-Illuminazione/dp/B081QXQ86Y?ref_=mw_olp_product_details&th=1&psc=1

But admittedly without the docking station. But I’ll wait for BF first if something better comes up.


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PostPosted: Mon, 23rd Nov 2020 07:56    Post subject:
Breezer_ wrote:
Wireless is as good as wired these days, unless you buy some 5 eur shit.


Indeed. Once you go wireless there is no going back.

I'm gonna buy upcoming Logitech Wireless Pro X white at some point, and replace my current Logitech Wireless Pro with it. Smile


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PostPosted: Mon, 23rd Nov 2020 08:06    Post subject:
escalibur wrote:
Breezer_ wrote:
Wireless is as good as wired these days, unless you buy some 5 eur shit.


Indeed. Once you go wireless there is no going back.

I'm gonna buy upcoming Logitech Wireless Pro X white at some point, and replace my current Logitech Wireless Pro with it. Smile


I went through 3 expensive wireless mouse where I dont think any of them lasted more than 6mo, so I guess you do go back, goodluck.
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PostPosted: Mon, 23rd Nov 2020 08:46    Post subject:
G Pro is very good but expensive. G305/304 are a solid budget choice.

Didn't have much luck with Razer products. Both my mouse and controller died within a year. Never again.


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PostPosted: Mon, 23rd Nov 2020 09:13    Post subject:
How is the ASUS ROG Chakram for 90 euros? Normal price is 170.
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PostPosted: Mon, 23rd Nov 2020 16:31    Post subject:
Over a year ago, I moved from a desk to couch gaming on a 65" 4k TV. Initially I was more worried about my old system keeping up with gaming (i5 2500k and Rx570), but quickly realized I needed a budget wireless kb&m solution. Went with the Log g305 and Corsair k57 combo and I've been pleased so far. The desktop and TV are about 6 feet away. I haven't tested the range further than that though.
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PostPosted: Mon, 23rd Nov 2020 16:47    Post subject:
stay away from logitech. Their products are amazing, but their failure rate are high as fuck. RMA'd 2 G502 lightspeed already
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JackQ
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PostPosted: Mon, 23rd Nov 2020 17:09    Post subject:
I have this one more than a year still working flawlessly.


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PostPosted: Mon, 23rd Nov 2020 17:39    Post subject:
Try playing mmo's with it and it'll fail soon enough
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PostPosted: Mon, 23rd Nov 2020 18:01    Post subject:
Speaking on logitech, they just launched G pro x which is even lighter than Viper and obvious competitor..

But I guess you want to take less risks this time.


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freiwald




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PostPosted: Mon, 23rd Nov 2020 18:44    Post subject:
Stormwolf wrote:
Try playing mmo's with it and it'll fail soon enough

many people also just don't notice it, because it's not always just the typical double click, but often the drag and drop issue. on the desktop you won't notice it until it's really bad.
JackQ wrote:
Speaking on logitech, they just launched G pro x which is even lighter than Viper and obvious competitor..

But I guess you want to take less risks this time.

with the new gpw they changed back to the 20m click switches which were used in the first g502 versions. double clicks should be a little bit better, but they will still happen sooner or later.
just stay away from logitech.
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PostPosted: Mon, 23rd Nov 2020 18:55    Post subject:
Too late Very Happy , I already ordered mx anywhere 3 for my laptop and g915.


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freiwald




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PostPosted: Mon, 23rd Nov 2020 18:58    Post subject:
JackQ wrote:
Too late Very Happy , I already ordered mx anywhere 3 for my laptop and g915.

good luck Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon, 23rd Nov 2020 19:31    Post subject:
freiwald wrote:
Stormwolf wrote:
Try playing mmo's with it and it'll fail soon enough

many people also just don't notice it, because it's not always just the typical double click, but often the drag and drop issue. on the desktop you won't notice it until it's really bad.
JackQ wrote:
Speaking on logitech, they just launched G pro x which is even lighter than Viper and obvious competitor..

But I guess you want to take less risks this time.

with the new gpw they changed back to the 20m click switches which were used in the first g502 versions. double clicks should be a little bit better, but they will still happen sooner or later.
just stay away from logitech.


Exactly. I noticed it by the regular hold right mouse button to turn my character, but it would continuously unclick, and maybe click again by itself. It drove me absolutely nuts.

And you know its bad when the support asks no questions and do no tests after you describe your issue. I wonder how much logitech saves on cheaping out if people were to RMA every time.
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