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dethy
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| Posted: Tue, 26th Jan 2021 02:32 Post subject: |
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| paxsali wrote: | I don't think so.
I see this as a shunning of old thinking and related folx.
The new M$ is actually going in the right direction.
Now they only have to stop trying to buy other companies and maybe one day they'll be a really nice partner for businesses with the services they provide. |
Pretty much this. Brad Anderson wanted to go into it's own venture and Julia White got a nice promotion by going into SAP. Not sure about Kurt honestly.
Microsoft is currently a silent tech leader in the industry.
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| Posted: Tue, 26th Jan 2021 04:28 Post subject: |
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| paxsali wrote: | I don't think so.
I see this as a shunning of old thinking and related folx.
The new M$ is actually going in the right direction.
Now they only have to stop trying to buy other companies and maybe one day they'll be a really nice partner for businesses with the services they provide. |
I do think so.
Everything MS touches now is loaded with utter crap/bullshit. A Company that was once looked up to, is now run by fuckwits, who, as regards ones OS, are not living in the real world, and that applies to the 'Console' genre also. They have lost touch with reality (lost their way), and don't give a rats ass about the end user no more. All 'me, me, fuckin me', kinda like today's society when you think about it?, and it's only 'these' types that are gonna buy into it. 
Their new OS is a turd fest donkey pile of rotten festering dung, inspired by those who have little squares permanently stuck to their faces.
Old thinking?, huh?, well then, bring it back for sure, as it may be old, but a damn sight better than the shit they regurgitate today.
Maybe some have short memories?, I certainly do not 
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| Posted: Tue, 26th Jan 2021 12:38 Post subject: |
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| scaramonga wrote: | | paxsali wrote: | I don't think so.
I see this as a shunning of old thinking and related folx.
The new M$ is actually going in the right direction.
Now they only have to stop trying to buy other companies and maybe one day they'll be a really nice partner for businesses with the services they provide. |
I do think so.
Everything MS touches now is loaded with utter crap/bullshit. A Company that was once looked up to, is now run by fuckwits, who, as regards ones OS, are not living in the real world, and that applies to the 'Console' genre also. They have lost touch with reality (lost their way), and don't give a rats ass about the end user no more. All 'me, me, fuckin me', kinda like today's society when you think about it?, and it's only 'these' types that are gonna buy into it.
Their new OS is a turd fest donkey pile of rotten festering dung, inspired by those who have little squares permanently stuck to their faces.
Old thinking?, huh?, well then, bring it back for sure, as it may be old, but a damn sight better than the shit they regurgitate today.
Maybe some have short memories?, I certainly do not |
Cool feelings bro. Windows 10 is the fastest and most stable windows I've used to date. It has gotten rid of a ton of uncessary ui/ux crap too. It's very clean. What is it that you hate so much about it? And the ability to buy any xbox live title and also have the option to play it on pc is fucking awesome. What is so consumer unfriendly about that? |
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couleur
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| Posted: Tue, 26th Jan 2021 13:34 Post subject: |
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If we're going to discuss Windows 10 for the 1000000000thdsdstdsthds time, we have a thread for that.
Also there is a lot wrong with the Windows UI.
On another note, we've been forced to use MS Teams these last months for our homeschooling and workgroups and despite being quite sluggish and having some of the worst UI decisions in MS history, the App works quite well for small teams. (hence the name, teams)
The google suite comes close but lacks in a few fields, notably that google drive is just a fucking mess compared to even Onedrive which has become better but has much room for improvement aswell. Also googles alternatives for word, excel and pp are just shit.
I wish we'd use open source alternatives but our government made contracts with the devil, so here we are.
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couleur
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| Posted: Tue, 26th Jan 2021 15:01 Post subject: |
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I don't know if there are open source alternatives. Its more wishful thinking on my part.
edit: And what design goals, MS just makes up design as it goes along. There is no real design concept imo.
"Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-imposed nonage. Nonage is the inability to use one's own understanding without another's guidance. This nonage is self-imposed if its cause lies not in lack of understanding but in indecision and lack of courage to use one's own mind without another's guidance. Dare to know! (Sapere aude.) "Have the courage to use your own understanding," is therefore the motto of the enlightenment."
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Nui
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| Posted: Tue, 26th Jan 2021 17:50 Post subject: |
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word, power point with their "what you see is what you get" principle is almost never what I need. I prefer writing stuff down in markdown nowadays. But due to the way they work they are slower and more cumbersome to use, with no benefit for me.
The chat in teams i think is just stupid. The amount of hoops you have to jump through to get syntax highlighting with code is really annoying. We use mattermost (uses markdown, i prefer it a lot) for chat only and teams for video/voice chat.
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| Posted: Tue, 26th Jan 2021 20:38 Post subject: |
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I had the pleasure to use MS Teams/Onedrive last couple of months and I can honestly say: it doesn't hold a candle against Slack + Google Drive.
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| Posted: Wed, 27th Jan 2021 00:14 Post subject: |
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| PumpAction wrote: | | It has gotten rid of a ton of uncessary ui/ux crap too. It's very clean. |
What!? 
It's full of bloated shit, period! Useless crap nonsense that don't belong in any OS, and a lot of it forced upon you. Nothing clean about this OS, nothing at all. I like to have an OS as a 'base', in which I'll install what 'I' want on, not Microsoft deciding for me. I also like to install my own drivers for my hardware, and not have Microsoft decide what 'they' think I should install, should I be unlucky enough to connect this turd online before I do so.
Oh, the list could go on...but I'll save you from the pain of repeating what you already know about this organisation, and its sneaky underhand tactics.
It's a cesspit of utter rotten dung this Company, and one I hate with a passion, more so now than EA, which previously had held my top spot for years, but not any longer.
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| Posted: Wed, 27th Jan 2021 01:23 Post subject: |
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| Nui wrote: | word, power point with their "what you see is what you get" principle is almost never what I need. I prefer writing stuff down in markdown nowadays. But due to the way they work they are slower and more cumbersome to use, with no benefit for me.
The chat in teams i think is just stupid. The amount of hoops you have to jump through to get syntax highlighting with code is really annoying. We use mattermost (uses markdown, i prefer it a lot) for chat only and teams for video/voice chat. |
+1, have hated using any office product since 2005 ? libreoffice is also more intuitive and easier to use than MS office greater than 2003.
@PumpAction you must be drunk, Windows still contains 5-10 different UX/UI's for ? knows what reason. It's terrible click through 4-5 different UI's to get to network adapter configuration or say microphone configuration. They've actually made it less intuitive with more unnecessary clicks each version, the most useful screens are the same ones from WinXP era. Also what is the deal with lots of UI elements only showing information with no way to navigate to its configuration ??? very backwards.
Today, I only use Windows to launch games via VM passthrough, it's dogshit for any other technical job. Fortunately with the way the tech industry is heading we may not need it at all within a decade, MS knows this too, there's a reason Windows has a full linux kernel included as well.
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| Posted: Wed, 27th Jan 2021 02:31 Post subject: |
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Another, is the hoops you now have to go through to get to the much preferred, and more usable 'System Properties'. As of 20H2, you are forced to use the newly designed shit, even if you go to the original 'control panel' settings and click on 'System', it will open turd version, but if you right click that same 'System', then open, voila!, we find the usable un-turded version.
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| Posted: Thu, 28th Jan 2021 08:03 Post subject: |
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lol. doesn't make sense m8?, but the ui/ux crap has gone, and is very clean , as clean as the shit on my boots 
See, on latest laptops now, MS 'force' you into their new sleeping mode (Modern Standby), which means, your always connected to them, even when your device is off! Yeah, I'm happy your looking after us MS, but fuck you!! , and I hope you rot in hell bastards!
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| Posted: Fri, 29th Jan 2021 03:29 Post subject: |
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As long as I need to remove more default apps upon fresh install compared to the w10 apps I actually want to use, there s something wrong. Praise the lord people on Earth have access to Linux distros! Let's even not mention their completely broken update system
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couleur
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| Posted: Fri, 29th Jan 2021 04:18 Post subject: |
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Win > OSX? I‘ve been using both systems side by side for over 13 years and OSX has been the better working system for me all that time. Windows on my main machine has since been a necessary evil. I suppose it depends a lot on what you actually do with your system.
"Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-imposed nonage. Nonage is the inability to use one's own understanding without another's guidance. This nonage is self-imposed if its cause lies not in lack of understanding but in indecision and lack of courage to use one's own mind without another's guidance. Dare to know! (Sapere aude.) "Have the courage to use your own understanding," is therefore the motto of the enlightenment."
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| Posted: Fri, 29th Jan 2021 04:29 Post subject: |
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MS get away with it because they've had the monopoly for so long everyday users, if you look at it objectively, configuration, managing services, what launches at boot, policy, registry, even powershell (which i dont mind) the start bar and search experience etc. against anything else because OSX, Android, FreeBSD etc. all use the same underlying tried and true unix utilities.
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| Posted: Fri, 19th Feb 2021 20:12 Post subject: |
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| dethy wrote: | | paxsali wrote: | I don't think so.
I see this as a shunning of old thinking and related folx.
The new M$ is actually going in the right direction.
Now they only have to stop trying to buy other companies and maybe one day they'll be a really nice partner for businesses with the services they provide. |
Pretty much this. Brad Anderson wanted to go into it's own venture and Julia White got a nice promotion by going into SAP. Not sure about Kurt honestly.
Microsoft is currently a silent tech leader in the industry. |
Agreed. MS is doing well at the moment. That executives leave is no news. Keep in mind that MS was founded in 1975, that's 45 years ago. Lots of retirements the last few years, out with the old guard and in with the new. Nothing new under the sun.
PC: Yes. Console: No.
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