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tonizito
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...but why?
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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| Posted: Thu, 15th Jul 2021 01:36 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Thu, 15th Jul 2021 05:15 Post subject: |
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| skx7 wrote: | Does it need TPM 4.0?  |
Nah. They got you where they want ya, online   Sneaky little fuckers kept that one quiet eh? lol. Probably just threw in the TPM shit to piss folk off into something else, like, ShitInTheCloud365? I mean, I'm not the brightest bulb in the pack, but anyone can see where this is going lol
I can see the adverts and presentations now. Microcrap, open up your world, be free to do anything, and let us in to your lives, while we weave a wonderous path of righteousness, and bless your alive, when you choose ShitInTheCloud three six five.
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| Posted: Thu, 15th Jul 2021 10:12 Post subject: |
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dethy
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DXWarlock
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| Posted: Thu, 15th Jul 2021 22:09 Post subject: |
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@dethy
Yea I know a lot of companies that would love this.
75% of the ones I work with now are phasing out onsite servers for AWS solutions. This is just an end user employee solution of the same concept.
Less hardware to maintain, less hardware to buy/update. Sort of like a workstation user setup without needing to buy equal hardware PC's to actually run it at each station endpoint.
Bob that does back end management and sandbox testing needs to login? Any dummy terminal he can access now 'has' his 16 core 64 gig ram setup on it. (so to speak).
Windows DaaS has been a thing a lot of them wish was a thing. Spending $500+ for each of 100's of end user computers each year is more expensive than a DaaS solution.
Hell my company might get into it for on site work.
Buy a $3000 laptop for me to lug around to sites every 2 years, vs get there and go "Give me any PC with an internet connection" and I have my work tools and a machine equal to my 24 core 48gig laptop with all my VM's, work tools, and such at my fingertips.
Does any of us home users have a use for it? No. But I do not think we are the target market either.
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Even if your ISP don't provide them? |
Yes..why would the remote desktop connection speed have anything to do with yours? That's like saying remote desktoping into a server, its own internet download speeds is based on yours you remoted in with.
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| Posted: Thu, 15th Jul 2021 22:27 Post subject: |
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Lets be honest, its the shitty organizations putting all their data and computing in the cloud. Not one serious company is doing this, not one! Especially your data.
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DXWarlock
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| Posted: Thu, 15th Jul 2021 22:37 Post subject: |
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@skx7
Of the ones I know that are with servers already (other than legacy systems the rest moved/moving by end of year to AWS), and will with end employee stations goto this or AVD:
Wall Street Journal, New York Times, The Daily Mail, The Guardian, Bild, LA times.
They are all pretty serious companies.
-We don't control what happens to us in life, but we control how we respond to what happens in life.
-Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. -G. Michael Hopf
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dethy
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| Posted: Fri, 16th Jul 2021 09:02 Post subject: |
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| skx7 wrote: | | Lets be honest, its the shitty organizations putting all their data and computing in the cloud. Not one serious company is doing this, not one! Especially your data. |
Know how I know you know nothing about enterprise tech?
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DXWarlock
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| Posted: Sat, 17th Jul 2021 06:36 Post subject: |
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| scaramonga wrote: |
Who gives a rats ass about 'enterprise tech'? |
The guys that pay my paycheck, so by extension me. More savings to them, more money to us.
Not paying $3000 a year for my laptop will be $3000 a year more bonus I will get.
OH and literally every tech based business in the world thats not a family ran one? They care. You know the meat and potatoes of OS and hardware income (we home users are not the top income bracket in the PC world).
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tonizito
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| Posted: Sat, 17th Jul 2021 17:38 Post subject: |
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| DXWarlock wrote: | | scaramonga wrote: |
Who gives a rats ass about 'enterprise tech'? |
The guys that pay my paycheck, so by extension me. More savings to them, more money to us. |
Dunno if lucky or delusional
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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couleur
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| Posted: Sat, 17th Jul 2021 17:39 Post subject: |
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Is it trickling down already?
"Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-imposed nonage. Nonage is the inability to use one's own understanding without another's guidance. This nonage is self-imposed if its cause lies not in lack of understanding but in indecision and lack of courage to use one's own mind without another's guidance. Dare to know! (Sapere aude.) "Have the courage to use your own understanding," is therefore the motto of the enlightenment."
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DXWarlock
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| Posted: Sat, 17th Jul 2021 17:58 Post subject: |
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@tonizito
Lucky I guess? My company actually cares about us
For this, my boss already told everyone they are looking into AVD and this when more details comes out for when we need to travel since we dont travel as much as we did 5-10 years ago (remote server work is WAY easier now-a-days), so we can get the money instead of a laptop (our choice on which), as its been they give bonuses and laptops at the same time; and we get to keep the old ones when we get a new one. HE dont want a closet full of a dozen of old laptops from us all.
How my kids get laptops  My son has my old i7/1070/32gb laptop. Since I travel sometimes, boss foots the bill for one with a decent vidcard since he knows I game a lot and will want to when out of town in the hotel. I go pick which one I want, and they ship it to me, long as I dont go STUPID crazy on price like 4-5 grand or something.
I rather have the money, as I got 3 decent [for their time] laptops already (counting the one my son has). and if I want one when I go out of town I can just buy one every couple years with some of that money. And how its been lately I have not travelled in 2 years, can remote from home to everyone's servers on AWS or thier VPN..so I just get free laptops I dont 'need' INCASE they need me to. So yea..I'm taking the cash..LOL
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dethy
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| Posted: Sat, 17th Jul 2021 22:25 Post subject: |
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It all comes down to price. I'm hearing it's around $30/mo per user, but it depends on configuration I guess. Large organizations have already tested this for some time and they're on board.
I actually wouldn't mind this for my work. Instead of carrying a laptop with me everywhere, I could just have my iPad and remote access my work via the cloud.
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couleur
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@dethy You can do that simply by having a VPN access to your home (with a NAS, f.e.) and using Windows remote on iPad. It works ok.
"Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-imposed nonage. Nonage is the inability to use one's own understanding without another's guidance. This nonage is self-imposed if its cause lies not in lack of understanding but in indecision and lack of courage to use one's own mind without another's guidance. Dare to know! (Sapere aude.) "Have the courage to use your own understanding," is therefore the motto of the enlightenment."
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| Posted: Sun, 18th Jul 2021 00:38 Post subject: |
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You will own nothing, not even a PC... and be happy.
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dethy
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| Posted: Sun, 18th Jul 2021 06:21 Post subject: |
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| skx7 wrote: | | i also wonder how someone is able to properly work on windows with an iPad touch screen. or will the future geek generation have to wear a usb/bluetooth keyboard and mouse with them at all time? it sounds like being able to run Doom 1 on an HP printer... yes it boots, but all is said with that |
they key keyboards with trackpads for the iPad. These work great.
| couleur wrote: | | @dethy You can do that simply by having a VPN access to your home (with a NAS, f.e.) and using Windows remote on iPad. It works ok. |
Right now we're using citrix to launch virtual desktop when needed, it works "OK" for the most part. However, it is very limited so I do have to carry my laptop around when I'm on-call.
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DXWarlock
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| Posted: Sun, 18th Jul 2021 08:09 Post subject: |
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| dethy wrote: | | Right now we're using citrix to launch virtual desktop when needed, it works "OK" for the most part. However, it is very limited so I do have to carry my laptop around when I'm on-call. |
We tried that too. Also VM workstations, and ESXi with remote access to individually assigned machines. Wasn't quite up to what we needed. It worked, but was cumbersome and problematic in specific situations.
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-Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. -G. Michael Hopf
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dethy
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| Posted: Sun, 18th Jul 2021 16:36 Post subject: |
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Right, not to mention all the licensing costs associated with it.
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| Posted: Sun, 18th Jul 2021 16:47 Post subject: |
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| dethy wrote: | | skx7 wrote: | | i also wonder how someone is able to properly work on windows with an iPad touch screen. or will the future geek generation have to wear a usb/bluetooth keyboard and mouse with them at all time? it sounds like being able to run Doom 1 on an HP printer... yes it boots, but all is said with that |
they key keyboards with trackpads for the iPad. These work great.
| couleur wrote: | | @dethy You can do that simply by having a VPN access to your home (with a NAS, f.e.) and using Windows remote on iPad. It works ok. |
Right now we're using citrix to launch virtual desktop when needed, it works "OK" for the most part. However, it is very limited so I do have to carry my laptop around when I'm on-call. |
Imagine using 16 different screens at the same time by using Citrix. What a mess that would be. 
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azzman
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| Posted: Tue, 12th Oct 2021 09:06 Post subject: |
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So like thin clients 15-20 years ago, except this service model guarantee's no circumventing monthly payments. One thing is for sure, that all vendors are phasing out on-premises software in favour of SaaS models, but gonna put a lot of people (most of them lazy as fuck) out of work.
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