Overheatet AMD 64 cpu? HELP!
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jonazei




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PostPosted: Mon, 25th Apr 2005 16:06    Post subject: Overheatet AMD 64 cpu? HELP!
Hey Guys!

I have just bought an AMD 64 - 3400+ with a Zalman 7700-CU 120mm fan, but the temp. is still about 60 degrees celcius, and sometimes my computer shuts down. I tried to change the case-fans to get a better flow, but that didn't change anything. Then I checked the paste, it was still a fine thin layer. So if anyone know what's wrong, please help!!!

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Baleur




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PostPosted: Mon, 25th Apr 2005 21:10    Post subject:
no idea, i have upgraded my cooling system to a huge copper triple-piped (whatever its called, the thing thats between the cpu core and the fan), and still had 0 difference from the normal standard p4 fan and aluminum shit..
Prolly my incredinbly sucky motherboard that just gives the wrong temp reading tough, but i dunno.. You'r not alone..

My tip would be to try and open the case and see if it makes a difference, if; mount a case-fan to vent the hot air inside the case.


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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Apr 2005 00:07    Post subject:
i have the same processor... but i bought the package where the fan is already included, ie. AMD FAN.... mine runs usually about 30'C and like 35'C under stress...

on my old pc i had to have my entire case open with a big household fan pointing directly at it on high speed...

i dont know that zalman fan, but if its a good and *reccomended* fan for that CPU, your probably going to have to get more airflow in your case somehow... more fans, and more fans....

hope u figure something out


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PostPosted: Wed, 25th May 2005 18:22    Post subject:
KrayZJool wrote:
on my old pc i had to have my entire case open with a big household fan pointing directly at it on high speed...


lol I had that very same set up before I upgraded to an Athlon64 3400+, new board and new case with a couple of fans about 3 weeks ago. I think mine runs fairly warm but the case fans do help. I also have a 6800GT which gets hot but not enough to concern me thankfully Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed, 25th May 2005 19:14    Post subject:
Isnt this in the wrong forum anyway? The hardware forum is more suited to this thread me thinks.


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Jenni
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PostPosted: Wed, 25th May 2005 20:50    Post subject:
Hello Jona, have you tried the stock fan?


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PostPosted: Wed, 25th May 2005 21:05    Post subject:
60 degree under load shouldn't be a problem, thats fine. Modern cpu's shut down at much higher temps, maybe you have a bad cpu.
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PostPosted: Thu, 26th May 2005 14:14    Post subject:
I have almost the same setup 3200+ with the zalman cooper cooler and it runs at temperture between 28-45 degres, btw the stock cooler is worse than the zalman.
What rpm's is the fan running at?
Is this the temp showing in bios your'e talking about?


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PostPosted: Thu, 26th May 2005 14:31    Post subject:
Bloody shoddy AMD products Razz!!

I would suggest you guys take out the CPU, remove all of the thermal paste with a cloth (dont use water based cleaner Razz.. alcohol based ALWAYS). Now, place the CPU back into the board, put a dot of paste on the core and put the heat sink ontop of it as you would if you where fitting the heat sink. Pull it off and you should have the area where your core will sit, spread a VERY thin layer of paste around this area and place the heat sink back on. OR, put the thin layer on the core itself, it depends on how confident you are at application Wink! Use a credit card/razor blade to apply the paste as the oils in your hand/fibres on a cloth will get stuck on the core. The reason you need to use a very small amount is because when you install the heat sink, you will no doubt push down on the core causing the paste to push outward creating a "heat pocket" at the top of the core (the heat is kept in by the excess of paste around the sides of the core and not in the center).. You guys should also make sure your using "copper protector thingy" (fuck.. I forgot what they're called lol), this will take the weight off your CPU core and stop you from destroying it Wink! THERMAL PASTE TYPE DOES MATTER - I would suggest you get yourself some Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound and use that, or if your lazy get some thermal pads Wink!

FYI: Zalmans are not that great coolers at times.

Oo and 65 is AMD's cut off point for "this is running too hot" Razz
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PostPosted: Thu, 26th May 2005 17:13    Post subject:
Of course what syn means is put more of a dot of thermal paste on as it's a 64 and doesn't have the core exposed.


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PostPosted: Thu, 26th May 2005 18:18    Post subject:
Jenni wrote:
Of course what syn means is put more of a dot of thermal paste on as it's a 64 and doesn't have the core exposed.


Thanks for the correction there Very Happy! Didnt know AMD had gone all fancy and stopped showing there cores Razz! On that note, not protective metal thingy is needed either.. (thats going to bug me so much.. it begins with a s.. shin.. something.. NO THATS IT..A SHIN!). I would suggest using artic or thermal pads though Smile! and a good cooler, none of these passive things Razz!
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[sYn]
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PostPosted: Sun, 29th May 2005 02:31    Post subject:
haha.. you think your having problems? Mine just hit 70! Fucking thing.. *buys new parts*

meh..
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PostPosted: Fri, 3rd Jun 2005 04:11    Post subject:
if nothing else helps, look into how hot your psu(power supply) is getting and how close it is to the cpu. also psu's with an intake fan(esp a 120mm fan) to suck up the heat are the best. i made a change to a cooler psu unit and it dropped my cpu about 10c.


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PostPosted: Fri, 3rd Jun 2005 10:27    Post subject:
[sYn] wrote:
(thats going to bug me so much.. it begins with a s.. shin.. something.. NO THATS IT..A SHIN!).


SHIM!

Anyway.. Having had my heat issues recently I figured it to be the PSU giving out too much power. One of the cables leading from the PSU had blown, so I routed everything through the 2 remaining cables. This seemed to pump too much power into everything causing it all to majorly overheat. Since buying a new PSU and a slightly OTT HSF, everything is now running perfectly.

You might want to check that your power is evenly spread through out the system as well as checking the voltage your PSU is giving out.
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PostPosted: Fri, 3rd Jun 2005 10:29    Post subject:
what motherboard are you using? some report temps wrong. and you only need a grain of rice sized blob of thermal paste in centre of cpu
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