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 Posted: Fri, 6th Jan 2023 15:49 Post subject: Buying another 16 gig of mem for my pc? |
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Hi all.
I have 16 gigs in 2 sticks of mem for my pc.
Here is the mem i have.
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/team-group-night-hawk-rgb-16gb-2x8gb-ddr4-pc4-25600c16-3200mhz-dual-channel-kit-rgb-black-tf1d4-my-08m-tg.html
Just thought to myself i should get another 2x8 gig sticks of this mem bringing the total too 32 gigs.
Should i get the exact same mem or is there any better cheaper 2x8 gig sticks i should look at buying instead which are a bit cheaper?
Thanks 
Ryzen 5 3600 cpu@3.60 Mhz.
hyper x 32 gb ddr 4 memory.
Msi Carbon gaming pro ac motherboard.
Evga 600 psu.
Msi Armour rx 8 gb 5700 Graphic card.
Ps4 Standard 500gb.
Lg 4k 42 inch tv.
Oculus Quest 2.
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vurt
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| Posted: Fri, 6th Jan 2023 16:08 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Fri, 6th Jan 2023 16:21 Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Just thought to myself i should get another 2x8 gig sticks of this mem bringing the total too 32 gigs. |
sounds like you really need it, i would advise to remove all the ram installed right now and get a fresh new 128gb kit.
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| Posted: Fri, 6th Jan 2023 16:50 Post subject: |
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| freiwald wrote: | | Quote: | | Just thought to myself i should get another 2x8 gig sticks of this mem bringing the total too 32 gigs. |
sounds like you really need it, i would advise to remove all the ram installed right now and get a fresh new 128gb kit. |
Errm i am sure i do not need that much...just yet 
Ordered another 16 gigs of the same mem 
Ryzen 5 3600 cpu@3.60 Mhz.
hyper x 32 gb ddr 4 memory.
Msi Carbon gaming pro ac motherboard.
Evga 600 psu.
Msi Armour rx 8 gb 5700 Graphic card.
Ps4 Standard 500gb.
Lg 4k 42 inch tv.
Oculus Quest 2. |
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| Posted: Fri, 6th Jan 2023 17:10 Post subject: |
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DXWarlock
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Location: Florida, USA
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| Posted: Fri, 6th Jan 2023 17:35 Post subject: |
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@paxsali
Depends on the games. I can hit 24-26GB in some games, or games with lots of mods.
MSFS or Cities Skylines with fuckloads of mods eat memory for breakfast.
Or VaM VR. That depending on the scene can chew up my 32G in 20 minutes if I change scenes a lot.
| vurt wrote: | | get exact same memory |
What vurt says, to save headaches with timings or DOCP/XMP settings working stable. Get the exact same mem, with same speed and timings.
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| Posted: Fri, 6th Jan 2023 17:54 Post subject: |
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I went 32GB with current system and never want to go back. No problems with tons of apps open now (no lags anymore).
PC: Yes. Console: No.
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| Posted: Fri, 6th Jan 2023 18:32 Post subject: |
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| Areius wrote: | | I went 32GB with current system and never want to go back. No problems with tons of apps open now (no lags anymore). |
That is exactly what i have just bought itf or after looking at videos with 16v32 gig.
Overall lag and other issues seem to be improved.
Ryzen 5 3600 cpu@3.60 Mhz.
hyper x 32 gb ddr 4 memory.
Msi Carbon gaming pro ac motherboard.
Evga 600 psu.
Msi Armour rx 8 gb 5700 Graphic card.
Ps4 Standard 500gb.
Lg 4k 42 inch tv.
Oculus Quest 2. |
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| Posted: Sun, 8th Jan 2023 22:12 Post subject: |
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Need some info here people please?
So i ordered another 2x8 gig sticks of mem and it turned up today.
I have ordered different brands like a bell but there simlar settings so might get away with it but will return it if not.
I got 2x8 gig sticks of t-force NIGHT HAWK 3200 CL-16-18-18-38 1.35V memory.
I have inside my pc Hyperx Fury ddr 4 1.35v memory there is no timing written on it.
Any ideas how i can get it all working together as my pc doesnt boot with the nee sticks in but does when there no in my pc?
So i have too set up the timings etc in bios but never have messed with mem ti.ing in bios.
Hopefully someone can help:)
Ryzen 5 3600 cpu@3.60 Mhz.
hyper x 32 gb ddr 4 memory.
Msi Carbon gaming pro ac motherboard.
Evga 600 psu.
Msi Armour rx 8 gb 5700 Graphic card.
Ps4 Standard 500gb.
Lg 4k 42 inch tv.
Oculus Quest 2.
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| Posted: Sun, 8th Jan 2023 22:17 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sun, 8th Jan 2023 22:21 Post subject: |
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| freiwald wrote: | | Theescapist wrote: | Need some info here people please?
So i ordered another 2x8 gig sticks of mem and it turned up today.
I have ordered different brands like a bell but there simlar settings so might get away with it but will return it if not.
I got 2x8 gig sticks of t-force NIGHT HAWK 3200 CL-16-18-18-38 1.35V memory.
I have inside my pc Hyperx Fury ddr 4 1.35v memory there is no timing written on it.
Any ideas how i can get it all working together as my pc doesnt boot with the nee sticks in but does when there no in my pc?
So i have too set up the timings etc in bios but never have messed with mem ti.ing in bios.
Hopefully someone can help:) |
| vurt wrote: | | get exact same memory |
 
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Loool .
I ordered from 2 different stores by mistake, months apart, i forgot to check which store i ordered the first lot from 
My bad maybe i can get them working in my pc together?
If not.i will be returning them
Ryzen 5 3600 cpu@3.60 Mhz.
hyper x 32 gb ddr 4 memory.
Msi Carbon gaming pro ac motherboard.
Evga 600 psu.
Msi Armour rx 8 gb 5700 Graphic card.
Ps4 Standard 500gb.
Lg 4k 42 inch tv.
Oculus Quest 2. |
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| Posted: Sun, 8th Jan 2023 23:52 Post subject: |
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It's not going to set your computer on fire or anything. But the different timings and voltages can cause system instability. I did it when dual channel first came out, I was still new to computers and never had an issue
If you start crashing or getting crc errors you'll know where the issue came from
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| Posted: Mon, 9th Jan 2023 00:54 Post subject: |
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| SpykeZ wrote: | It's not going to set your computer on fire or anything. But the different timings and voltages can cause system instability. I did it when dual channel first came out, I was still new to computers and never had an issue
If you start crashing or getting crc errors you'll know where the issue came from |
I have made a simlar thread on another forum.
I will send them back and try to get an identical pair too the ones i have in my pc but the timing i think and ddr4 with the same voltage are the same so should be ok using them but i need a bit of help sorting it as i have never really messed with the memory part of the bios.
Ryzen 5 3600 cpu@3.60 Mhz.
hyper x 32 gb ddr 4 memory.
Msi Carbon gaming pro ac motherboard.
Evga 600 psu.
Msi Armour rx 8 gb 5700 Graphic card.
Ps4 Standard 500gb.
Lg 4k 42 inch tv.
Oculus Quest 2. |
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| Posted: Mon, 9th Jan 2023 01:18 Post subject: |
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usually as long as both have the same frequency ur good. Get your mem men!
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| Posted: Mon, 9th Jan 2023 01:22 Post subject: |
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| Theescapist wrote: | | SpykeZ wrote: | It's not going to set your computer on fire or anything. But the different timings and voltages can cause system instability. I did it when dual channel first came out, I was still new to computers and never had an issue
If you start crashing or getting crc errors you'll know where the issue came from |
I have made a simlar thread on another forum.
I will send them back and try to get an identical pair too the ones i have in my pc but the timing i think and ddr4 with the same voltage are the same so should be ok using them but i need a bit of help sorting it as i have never really messed with the memory part of the bios. |
Please stop it. You make everything worse, how is that even possible???? 
Send them back and sell your current ram also, then buy a new kit with 2 sticks, if you really need more ram, WHICH I STILL DOUBT!
I have seen multiple people on reddit with your board, as soon as they use 4 sticks, they either have to lower the MHz oder can't even activate DOCP anymore.
If this is the case for you also, then your pc will be slower then before, more ram or not. Just the same like with tinkering with the timings and voltage. Don't do it.
You want to install 2 sticks of DDR4-3600MHz ram, go into the Bios and enabled DOCP. Nothing else. FINISHED.
Why are you doing this? Your other threads were like this already. Why do you ask, if you don't want to improve and do the same mistakes over and over again. Is this some kind of trolling?
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| Posted: Mon, 9th Jan 2023 01:30 Post subject: |
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Yep not wrong, get rid of all RAM buy 2x sticks either 16 or 32 totalgb. This is not a lot of money or difficult decision
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| Posted: Mon, 9th Jan 2023 02:15 Post subject: |
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| freiwald wrote: | | Theescapist wrote: | | SpykeZ wrote: | It's not going to set your computer on fire or anything. But the different timings and voltages can cause system instability. I did it when dual channel first came out, I was still new to computers and never had an issue
If you start crashing or getting crc errors you'll know where the issue came from |
I have made a simlar thread on another forum.
I will send them back and try to get an identical pair too the ones i have in my pc but the timing i think and ddr4 with the same voltage are the same so should be ok using them but i need a bit of help sorting it as i have never really messed with the memory part of the bios. |
Please stop it. You make everything worse, how is that even possible????
Send them back and sell your current ram also, then buy a new kit with 2 sticks, if you really need more ram, WHICH I STILL DOUBT!
I have seen multiple people on reddit with your board, as soon as they use 4 sticks, they either have to lower the MHz oder can't even activate DOCP anymore.
If this is the case for you also, then your pc will be slower then before, more ram or not. Just the same like with tinkering with the timings and voltage. Don't do it.
You want to install 2 sticks of DDR4-3600MHz ram, go into the Bios and enabled DOCP. Nothing else. FINISHED.
Why are you doing this? Your other threads were like this already. Why do you ask, if you don't want to improve and do the same mistakes over and over again. Is this some kind of trolling? |
Calm down shirley but thanks for the input .
Ryzen 5 3600 cpu@3.60 Mhz.
hyper x 32 gb ddr 4 memory.
Msi Carbon gaming pro ac motherboard.
Evga 600 psu.
Msi Armour rx 8 gb 5700 Graphic card.
Ps4 Standard 500gb.
Lg 4k 42 inch tv.
Oculus Quest 2. |
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| Posted: Tue, 10th Jan 2023 13:01 Post subject: |
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Identical pair is better, but different sets is fine too. Only since my current PC I'm using the same sticks (2x 16GB), my previous PCs always had mixed memory as I upgraded after X years when memory became an issue (and usually the same sticks weren't around anymore or much more expensive due to old stock, etc). Just check that the latencies are broadly the same if you buy new ones, and run them at the highest latencies. Your PC isn't going to catch fire or anything.
But if you don't mind paying a bit more, sell the 2x8GB and buy 2x16GB.
PC: Yes. Console: No.
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| Posted: Tue, 10th Jan 2023 13:12 Post subject: |
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| Areius wrote: | Identical pair is better, but different sets is fine too. Only since my current PC I'm using the same sticks (2x 16GB), my previous PCs always had mixed memory as I upgraded after X years when memory became an issue (and usually the same sticks weren't around anymore or much more expensive due to old stock, etc). Just check that the latencies are broadly the same if you buy new ones, and run them at the highest latencies. Your PC isn't going to catch fire or anything.
But if you don't mind paying a bit more, sell the 2x8GB and buy 2x16GB. |
Please look up the issues for his board, before recommened him something which will run worse then before, cause for example he can't enable DOCP anymore, the ram will downclock to boot, or not at all.
With his board he should not use more then 2 Sticks, cause it will give problems.
https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/ixidbj/b450_msi_gaming_carbon_pro_ac_wont_post_with_axmp/
https://www.reddit.com/r/MSI_Gaming/comments/tytp9x/msi_b450_gaming_plus_max_wont_post_with_4_sticks/
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