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LeoNatan
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 Posted: Mon, 25th Apr 2022 22:11 Post subject: Elon Musk’s Schrödinger Twitter/X Purchase |
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https://www.nytimes.com/live/2022/04/25/business/elon-musk-twitter
- Twitter's board approves deal
- $54.20 per share, $44B total
- Will become private company
- Musk: 'Free speech is bedrock of democracy'
- Musk: Adding new features, open source algorithm
- Musk vows to defeat spam bots, 'authenticate all humans'
Free speech but no bots. Musk is an imbecile. 
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| Posted: Mon, 25th Apr 2022 22:19 Post subject: |
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i wonder if the twitter board was like , fuck it, lets see if this loudmouth really has the money and now elon is like fuck, they called my bluff. He gonna have to sell a ton of shares and pay taxes on those right? Billionaires have extremely little cash for exactly tax avoiding reasons
how much tax will be earned on this transaction ? Everytime i buy something i pay 9-25% tax, why dont these frigging millionaires have to do the same
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vurt
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| Posted: Mon, 25th Apr 2022 22:36 Post subject: |
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couleur
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| Posted: Mon, 25th Apr 2022 23:00 Post subject: |
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I don't care, I don't use twitter.
"Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-imposed nonage. Nonage is the inability to use one's own understanding without another's guidance. This nonage is self-imposed if its cause lies not in lack of understanding but in indecision and lack of courage to use one's own mind without another's guidance. Dare to know! (Sapere aude.) "Have the courage to use your own understanding," is therefore the motto of the enlightenment."
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| Posted: Mon, 25th Apr 2022 23:23 Post subject: |
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me neither , its like a slow IRC with more pictures of penisses and pussy instead of the asci art and full of corporate balony n spam, like wtf lol
the funniest thing will happen when his employees tell him 90% of the active users are bots and hacked accounts and he cant ban em as he needs their activity as he realizes he spent 44 bill on a digital graveyard
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tonizito
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| Posted: Tue, 26th Apr 2022 00:35 Post subject: |
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https://twitter.com/verge/status/1518665777892757504
wokémons losing their shit left and right "ZOMG I will be banned, oh noes he's bringing drumpf and da nazis back!11!11" 
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vurt
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| Posted: Tue, 26th Apr 2022 05:13 Post subject: |
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It's impossible to love anything social media, especially if you engage in it beyond the people you've decided to follow.
i use twitter to follow people i find interesting; creative people, indie game developers, coders, 3D and AI developers and creators, then a few youtubers that i find funny. right now there's no better platform for that since "everyone" uses Twitter, Facebook is awful for that type of following.
facebook is good for one thing - selling stuff. really great reach + free.
twitter is good for one thing - following people you find interesting, see what they're up to currently.
then there are smaller platforms who might be better, but why would i use them if i just can't find the people i want to follow on there.
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| Posted: Tue, 26th Apr 2022 06:20 Post subject: |
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The whole wankfest over all things Elon these days is ridiculous.
Wouldn't mind if both he and Twitter disappeared for good.
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ixigia
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| Posted: Tue, 26th Apr 2022 06:26 Post subject: |
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I have an account there for the lols but it's been collecting virtual cobwebs..don't really have the time/need for that specific type of social interactions and I can find the things that interest me elsewhere. Musky can do whatever he wants as far as I'm concerned, nothing of value will be lost either way 
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Nalo
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garus
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HubU
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vurt
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HubU
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| Posted: Tue, 26th Apr 2022 21:40 Post subject: |
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It's still a variation of the same theme.
In this case, it's not like this guy is praised for his humanitarian spirit, or visions for a better world.
Also, he never invented nor created anything, really, he just gobbled companies that had a good idea, and pumped a crapload of money into it. VERY business savvy, no question there, but unoriginal.
Like Tesla, he basically took over.
My point being: what good will he do, if any? Why wouldn't it be likely that he will treat it like a toy, then, instead of discarding it outright when bored, he'll drop it like a turd after selling while hyping the stock. And it will work, if people don'tsee through his egregious, constant BS by then
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HubU
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vurt
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| Posted: Tue, 26th Apr 2022 21:52 Post subject: |
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remains to be seen. will it be better than with the commie scum Jack Dorsey, i'm pretty fucking sure it will. it's also not just about free speech, the platform could grow beyond what it is, for example you could add a function so that you can edit your message, there's a number of QoL things to do, but they don't give a shit. If he truly likes the platform he has the will and the money to make it better.
He's not the second coming of Christ.. i don't know why some people argue like he would be or that he's claimed that he is. Neither is Bill Gates or Bezos..
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WaldoJ
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| Posted: Tue, 26th Apr 2022 23:01 Post subject: |
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Jack Dorsey hasn't been ceo for a while stfu lol. And Jack very pro free speech. It waa the board that did all the things you don't like.
Jesus you have no idea what you're talking about.
Twitter board is responsible for trust and safety and most of those are tumblr/Reddit jannies.
Jack was just the face of twitter. If you heard him talk he expressed quite a bit favorably for free speech. There were other factors in place. If twitter survives this, the snowball effect might reach YouTube/Reddit.
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vurt
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| Posted: Tue, 26th Apr 2022 23:45 Post subject: |
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Seen plenty of interviews and read plenty of shit from that absolute dirtbag.. He still had a say, even to the very last minute it seemed like? but nah, i'm not invested in the hierarchy, i don't like twitter THAT much.
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WaldoJ
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| Posted: Tue, 26th Apr 2022 23:54 Post subject: |
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That scumbag asshole ran twitter to the ground!
He still had a say even though board of directors direct him to do things as that's what board of directors do. They ensure the company makes monies. I'm not interested in facts about business culture. I don't like twitter anyway. Lol.
Anyway; if Twitter's ad revenue increases with this new free speech bs, it may change a lot of ad deals throughout. Could lead to google allowing it to increase ad revenue for YouTube and possibly other social media platforms. Time will tell.
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vurt
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couleur
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| Posted: Wed, 27th Apr 2022 09:32 Post subject: |
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Social media, be it twitter or facbook or something else (imgur f.e.) is not something that promotes free speech because the way they function, they act as tools to enhance polarisation.
Whether a platform leans left or right changes the poles and it might seem to some people that because their pov is better represented that its free speech. Like imgur heavily leaning left.
1. They who scream loudest, and arouse emotion get more attention. They are polarizers. The masses will either love or hate them. They create poles in which many people will believe they have a voice by just repeating whatever the polarizers say or what they think will be approved by their peers. Its not really free speech, its an echo chamber. And it is driven by emotion, not by fact or argumentation.
2. The individual, if his opinion gets exposed to a larger audience and gets more likes will either automatically adhere to one of the poles (I am part of XY) or the audience will make him (you are a XY), So even if his intention was nuance, the reality will make him part of some pole. In the end, the nuanced opinion will be crushed.
3. The tech itself does not allow for nuance. Neutral posts don't get any attention. Messages are usually very short and easy to misinterpret. Critical posts get downvoted, hated etc. so people adapt their opinion.
As such social media is just the illusion of free speech. In reality it creates division and the most divisive, emotionally laden polarizers influence the opinion of the masses, who will identify with it.
I mean, some reactions to Musks acquisition of the platform just undermine the fact. Its not about free speech, its just a battle ground for culture war. Some people cheer while others cry. I really pity all of these idiots who should just get a life outside social media, if it affects their mood that harshly.
"Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-imposed nonage. Nonage is the inability to use one's own understanding without another's guidance. This nonage is self-imposed if its cause lies not in lack of understanding but in indecision and lack of courage to use one's own mind without another's guidance. Dare to know! (Sapere aude.) "Have the courage to use your own understanding," is therefore the motto of the enlightenment."
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vurt
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| Posted: Wed, 27th Apr 2022 09:58 Post subject: |
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Something can be polarising yet be free speech.
Free speech is not equal to something that will make everyone happy or peaceful. We have censorship to make one side happy, it's not better.
It's easy to piss on anything and say it's bad but not provide any example of how to make it better.
No one said shit when Bezos bought Washington post lol... Bill Gates etc also buys into shit, no one says anything, but when someone who's free speech and perhaps more conservative/libertarian leaning "this is soooooooooo problematic!" lol.. the hypocrisy.
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couleur
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| Posted: Wed, 27th Apr 2022 10:00 Post subject: |
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Its just the free speech of the polarizer, not the free speech of the masses.
"Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-imposed nonage. Nonage is the inability to use one's own understanding without another's guidance. This nonage is self-imposed if its cause lies not in lack of understanding but in indecision and lack of courage to use one's own mind without another's guidance. Dare to know! (Sapere aude.) "Have the courage to use your own understanding," is therefore the motto of the enlightenment."
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vurt
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| Posted: Wed, 27th Apr 2022 10:20 Post subject: |
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Even if it's free speech of polarizers in an echo chamber, it's better than censorship. Also this is just human nature, you don't need to look at Twitter / social media to see this exact behavior. It's just who we are. You can just take a school, or a workplace, a political debate on TV or whatever as an example and you will find it is the same.
It's almost as you see polarization as something unnatural, this group thinking is very human and its how we've always been.
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couleur
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| Posted: Wed, 27th Apr 2022 10:27 Post subject: |
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Its not unnatural, but it changes over time. It can be more or less important. And in the end too much polarization is bad for any society. There are always forces who work for polarization and those who work for nuance, discourse and compromise.
"Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-imposed nonage. Nonage is the inability to use one's own understanding without another's guidance. This nonage is self-imposed if its cause lies not in lack of understanding but in indecision and lack of courage to use one's own mind without another's guidance. Dare to know! (Sapere aude.) "Have the courage to use your own understanding," is therefore the motto of the enlightenment."
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