Metal Gear Solid Master Collection
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lametta




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PostPosted: Wed, 21st Jun 2023 20:07    Post subject: Metal Gear Solid Master Collection



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PostPosted: Wed, 21st Jun 2023 20:57    Post subject:
Nice to see a streamlined way to play all these. I just hope it doesn't end up inferior to emulation.
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PostPosted: Wed, 21st Jun 2023 22:11    Post subject:
Playing the classic MGS3 again will be such a charm before Delta is coming. So many great memories attached to this one.
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PostPosted: Wed, 21st Jun 2023 22:33    Post subject:
I'm expecting shit hackjob ports, and then even expecting that to still be disappointed once it's out Embarassed


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PostPosted: Wed, 21st Jun 2023 22:36    Post subject:
tonizito wrote:
I'm expecting shit hackjob ports, and then even expecting that to still be disappointed once it's out Embarassed

welp seems like there is no mouse keyboard support already
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PostPosted: Wed, 21st Jun 2023 23:22    Post subject:
Can't imagine how mouse could work given the near-fixed camera angle of all of these

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PostPosted: Wed, 21st Jun 2023 23:29    Post subject:
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Can't imagine how mouse could work given the near-fixed camera angle of all of these


Right click = First person view
Mouse movement while holding Right click = Aim in First person
Left click = shoot. Either in FP or TP

What I can't imagine is aiming with WASD or Arrow keys fucking RE4 first port PTSD flashbacks right there Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed, 21st Jun 2023 23:32    Post subject:
But you can't walk in FP, and only 2 of those 5 games have FP modes

I would be extremely surprised if they go back and do all of that work for some rereleases
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PostPosted: Wed, 21st Jun 2023 23:47    Post subject:
Guns of the Patriots and Snake Eater originally required the analog face buttons of PS2/Xbox controllers. I wonder how these ports will handle this.
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PostPosted: Thu, 22nd Jun 2023 08:09    Post subject:
After Literally YEARS we have these "collection" on PC via emulation it's hard to be excited... still MGS3 remake is more something to look forward though.


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PostPosted: Thu, 22nd Jun 2023 15:40    Post subject:
lametta wrote:
tonizito wrote:
I'm expecting shit hackjob ports, and then even expecting that to still be disappointed once it's out Embarassed

welp seems like there is no mouse keyboard support already

Haha, classic Konami. I never got around to finishing MGS 1/2 back in the day because of the gamepad-centric controlling scheme, and it looks like things will stay that way - unless there will be full-on remakes in the distant future (which will depend on how the MGS3 Remake will turn out)
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PostPosted: Thu, 22nd Jun 2023 17:48    Post subject:
me7 wrote:
Guns of the Patriots and Snake Eater originally required the analog face buttons of PS2/Xbox controllers. I wonder how these ports will handle this.


The lack of pressure sensitive face buttons was addressed in a clunky way of pressing an extra button which mimics soft press state. (or it was used to toggle states?...actually can't recall 100% but I played these on X360 xD it was definitely clunky compared to actual PS2)

MGS2 and MGS3 are marked as the HD Collection version (released for Xbox 360 / PS3 about 10 years ago) which has native 16:9 support. I would expect them to be exactly the same with all the changes versus the original PS2 versions.

Peace Walker was also part of that same HD Collection but has not been announced for this new release - but that collection didn't come with MGS1 which IS part of this collection. MGS4 so far never got a release outside Playstation. :\
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PostPosted: Sat, 24th Jun 2023 20:37    Post subject:
https://twitter.com/Metalgear/status/1672289160072429568

the announcement for the steampage wtf Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue, 27th Jun 2023 08:54    Post subject:
Interinactive wrote:
https://press-start.com.au/news/playstation/2023/06/23/metal-gear-solid-4-looks-to-be-getting-a-re-release-in-the-next-master-collection/



Twin Snakes should have been in here as well Sad

They will have to remove Nintendo references though.


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PostPosted: Tue, 27th Jun 2023 09:43    Post subject:
They could replace them with pachinko references
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PostPosted: Wed, 28th Jun 2023 23:48    Post subject:
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Master Collection Version requires a controller in order to play. Playing with a keyboard and mouse isn't supported.
If this isn't a major clue on how much work these versions will get put into them then...




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PostPosted: Thu, 29th Jun 2023 01:03    Post subject:
"hurr durr piracy bad im saying this in a piracy discussion forum also I'm morally superior to you for spending money" lol wut
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lametta




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PostPosted: Thu, 29th Jun 2023 07:04    Post subject:
tbh mgs 2 was available on gog and mgs 1 is still available there i wonder if those games in the master collection are just copypastas.
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PostPosted: Thu, 29th Jun 2023 07:21    Post subject:
It's Konami

I'd wager that it's going to be the bare minimum
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PostPosted: Fri, 30th Jun 2023 17:02    Post subject:
So no widescreen support or HD upscaling either? Sooo as predicted emulation remains the superior option.
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PostPosted: Fri, 30th Jun 2023 17:40    Post subject:
lol did anyone actually expect konami to do anything but the bare minimum?
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PostPosted: Sun, 2nd Jul 2023 00:10    Post subject:
Stormwolf wrote:
lol did anyone actually expect konami to do anything but the bare minimum?

Hey, at least they're not turning it into pachinko...
... right?
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lametta




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PostPosted: Sun, 2nd Jul 2023 01:07    Post subject:
Wubbajack wrote:
Stormwolf wrote:
lol did anyone actually expect konami to do anything but the bare minimum?

Hey, at least they're not turning it into pachinko...
... right?

you jinxed it.
THANKS!
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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Oct 2023 06:52    Post subject:
https://www.gamespot.com/reviews/metal-gear-solid-master-collection-vol-1-kept-you-waiting-huh/1900-6418142

MGS1 is rough. The old one can be played at full res without the blur, hopefully a mod comes quickly

Edit: It's out now on Steam
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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Oct 2023 11:59    Post subject:
MGS1
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They really did MGS1 dirty.
It's literally just the iso file with a really bad emulator.
No resolution options, no aspect ratio options.
Nothing.

Play MGS1 with Duckstation instead and you'll get a significantly better experience, cause this version is a big letdown.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/2131630/METAL_GEAR_SOLID__Master_Collection_Version/#app_reviews_hash

MGS2
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Locked at 720p.
"Mouse support" is just emulating the right analogue stick, so there's no mouse aiming (can't aim with the right stick in MGS2).
Keyboard controls are nonsensical and can't be edited.
Selected button prompts get reset to the default Xbox ones every time.
The manuals are web pages that aren't even aware of the above option.
It's locked at 1280x720.
The sound quality sounds worse than the original or the HD Collection on PS3 / 360.
The option to download the Japanese version takes you to a non-existent Steam page.
They advertised the game as only supporting 1080p, which is already bad enough, but it's actually only 720p.
No windowed mode option, although it mistakenly opened in a window on first run, and the framerate was unlocked.
No video or graphic settings whatsoever.
IT'S LOCKED AT 1280X720.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/2131640/METAL_GEAR_SOLID_2_Sons_of_Liberty__Master_Collection_Version/#app_reviews_hash

MGS3
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- 720p
- No way to change anything except the language
- Priced at £50

How is it possible to be this lazy?

https://store.steampowered.com/app/2131650/METAL_GEAR_SOLID_3_Snake_Eater__Master_Collection_Version/#app_reviews_hash

Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Oct 2023 12:13    Post subject:
Everything went exactly as expected, thanks Konami
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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Oct 2023 12:37    Post subject:
When emulation developers doing literally better themselves than the original developers it's say much.


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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Oct 2023 23:00    Post subject:


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