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consolitis
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PostPosted: Wed, 23rd Jan 2013 20:32    Post subject: Gaming "Journalism" :lol:
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I am a gamer. I don’t work for Microsoft.

I, like most other gamers, am sick of seeing endless rumours and speculation citing “anonymous sources” or “insiders” with no evidence, no proof, no guarantee that they’ve been fact-checked or can be relied on.

The games industry is the only one I can think of that will quite happily publish guesswork as news. So-called ‘analysts’ are no different - they make money by guessing. They’re about as much use as a ‘source’ as I am.

So let’s see how easy it is to be a ‘source’.

At 1:41am GMT today I sent out an email to a bunch of gaming sites claiming to be a Microsoft employee working on the new Xbox.

I made up every single word of it along with a couple of specs copied from other rumours that have been appearing on the Internet.


This was a bit of an experiment to see just how easy it is to get a fake story taken seriously. And it is shockingly easy in the games industry.


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At the time of writing, my fake news is appearing on major sites such as:

Yahoo

CNET

Gizmodo

Venturebeat

Tech Digest

VG247

NowGamer


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This is not journalism.

Many games ‘journalists’ have no right calling themselves such things. The vast majority do nothing but copy & paste from other sites, and will willingly publish information without fact checking a single thing or attempting to verify the source.

It’s all about being first. To get such news out (whether you believe it or not) before any other publication does, will guarantee you page impressions, and that all-important advertising revenue. Gaming ‘journalism’ is completely broken.


By tagging a post with ‘rumour’, most writers/editors believe they can get away with spreading false information for their own benefits. They are the only ones to gain from such practices, whilst the gaming fans end up with speculation and, sometimes, outright lies.


Laughing


TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"

~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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PostPosted: Wed, 23rd Jan 2013 20:34    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Wed, 23rd Jan 2013 20:37    Post subject:
lol wut
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PostPosted: Wed, 23rd Jan 2013 20:53    Post subject:
Troll Dad
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PostPosted: Wed, 23rd Jan 2013 20:56    Post subject:
Well this is exaclty todays journalism.
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PostPosted: Wed, 23rd Jan 2013 20:57    Post subject:
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/df-hardware-next-gen-xbox-specs-leak

LOL


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PostPosted: Wed, 23rd Jan 2013 21:01    Post subject:
Well its gaming journalism, it's not like the majority of the journalists have attended a proper education and with that how to handle your information and sources. On the other hand it's practically impossible to back a rumor such as the above with any hard evidence: a) Microsoft would likely discard the rumor and b) you'll have too get a second, third or fourth source to back up the existing source which is quite hard with such a closed production at both Sony and Microsoft.

The sites above should take a chill pill and when either a) and b) are fulfilled they can publish the story


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PostPosted: Wed, 23rd Jan 2013 21:07    Post subject:
Mutantius wrote:
Well its gaming journalism..



Hardware sites aren't any better at all.
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PostPosted: Wed, 23rd Jan 2013 21:12    Post subject:
escalibur wrote:
Mutantius wrote:
Well its gaming journalism..



Hardware sites aren't any better at all.


I could imagine Razz


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PostPosted: Wed, 23rd Jan 2013 21:17    Post subject:
online "journalists" are easy to troll those days.
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PostPosted: Wed, 23rd Jan 2013 22:09    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Wed, 23rd Jan 2013 22:21    Post subject:
I don't know of any newssite on the net which does check facts (major news outlets excluded). How is this surprising? The quality of news is irrelvant on the net, the speed of it is important. Hell, most people reading news on a site wouldn't even take time to read an in-depth article.
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PostPosted: Wed, 23rd Jan 2013 22:29    Post subject:
News sites only care about the number of unique clicks because of ads.
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PostPosted: Wed, 23rd Jan 2013 23:15    Post subject:
escalibur wrote:
tonizito wrote:
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/df-hardware-next-gen-xbox-specs-leak

LOL



Even Eurogamer got pwned.

no, your reading "skillz" got pwned. Eurogamer's article was posted 2 days before the hoax and it mentions nothing of the surface and other crap. looks like some gamers here aren't better than thouse "journalists" Laughing Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed, 23rd Jan 2013 23:20    Post subject:
Interinactive wrote:
Mister_s wrote:
I don't know of any newssite on the net which does check facts (major news outlets excluded). How is this surprising?


Who was surprised? It's hilarious if anything, but hardly surprising


TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"

~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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PostPosted: Wed, 23rd Jan 2013 23:21    Post subject:
Sad


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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Jan 2013 08:59    Post subject:
I don't see a problem. If you have some unverified information, you are free to share it as long as you say that it's unverified. These "rumors" may or may not be true, and the reader has to acknowledge that... sharing the information with the public is a win for the public, since there's a chance that the info is correct.
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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Jan 2013 12:41    Post subject:
Sharing an unverified information confuses the hell out of a public educated to get the news from the media as true. Many people are not educated to pass the information through their own mind and analyzed it. So they are thinking that the piece of news they've read/hear it's true(even if the journalist or the newscaster are saying that's a rumor).

See the effects of Fox News or any tabloid on the population. Bottom line: it's on the news, it must be real. Which in many cases it's not. Today's overall journalism is a joke.
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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Jan 2013 13:07    Post subject:
Prandur wrote:
I don't see a problem. If you have some unverified information, you are free to share it as long as you say that it's unverified. These "rumors" may or may not be true, and the reader has to acknowledge that... sharing the information with the public is a win for the public, since there's a chance that the info is correct.


Well, no one said you can't share it, the dude that did this experiment just points out that this cannot be called journalism; it's parroting what you are told, without even bothering to verify it.

I left this piece out from the OP:

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Pocket-Lint.com were the first to run with the news, almost exactly one hour after saying “we have to make an effort to validate”; two hours before I got the chance to reply. It was posted with zero validation, no fact-checking, no source information. Just a simple email basically saying “I work for Microsoft - believe me?”.


Also quite a few websites make up their own rumors using the excuse of "anonymous tipsters". I can spot a lot of them.


TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"

~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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https://web.archive.org/web/20190712142413/https://www.vg247.com/2019/07/12/game-developers-time-stop-listening-fans/




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Read up til the part of "toxic fan entitlement"
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"Then there’s Mass Effect: Andromeda, a game taken down by gifs."


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no, it's a game taken down by amateur developers and stupid executive business decisions. the ridiculous facial animations were only the cherry on top.


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PostPosted: Sun, 14th Jul 2019 14:54    Post subject:
that tumblr dont work, is some seo add, any other sites picked up the story of the fake thing?
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PostPosted: Sun, 14th Jul 2019 16:31    Post subject:
paxsali wrote:
Media Literacy by Super Bunnyhop


Watched it yesterday myself and quite enjoyed it. He gives some good tips for critical reading online.
I've just started reading "LikeWar: The Weaponization of Social Media" book and the same principles resonate in both cases - it is extremely easy to fool people online. Basically, if you're not used to verify sources and cross verify what you read, you mostly live in an alternative universe of made up facts Laughing

And it's only getting worse...


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