Microsoft saving PC gaming again
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PostPosted: Tue, 11th Feb 2014 22:15    Post subject: Microsoft saving PC gaming again
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RPS: Your messaging on PC gaming as of late has been mixed. Some of your people have put it on level with mobile and tablet games while others have professed a new commitment to it. You also recently hired Steam’s former director of business development. Where is Microsoft at with PC gaming?

Lobb: So we love PC. It’s obviously a source of huge revenue for Microsoft. The reality is that in years past we were the Xbox division. Although many of us love playing on PC, we can only make so many games. We can only do so much.

Now we’re one [unified] Microsoft. I don’t see this as pressure. I see it as an opportunity. We have more support internally to support PC more. That’s great! My only expectation would be, please let us continue to do that over a five-year period so we can have real impact. That’s how it feels right now. We’re getting very strong support internally. So we’re really going after PC.

RPS: Will launches of games Microsoft has locked down as exclusives be concurrent on both Xbox and PC from now on?

Lobb: It’s my belief that the goal of a development team should be to make the best thing for each particular platform. So I think it makes sense to take Game A, maybe it’s exclusive on one of the platforms, but maybe you do some support games on the side platforms. Like, “Hey, I’ll do a big game here, and then I’ll do a tablet game or a smaller web thing, etc.”

Ubisoft did a great job last year. I played Kenway’s fleet on an iPad and I played Assassin’s Creed IV on an Xbox.

RPS: Yikes. Are you saying you consider PC to be a “side platform,” a la tablet or mobile? Other Microsoft developers have certainly suggested as much.

Lobb: Oh, not at all! What I’m saying is, that could very much potentially go the other way. Maybe there’s a big exclusive on PC and there’s an Xbox Live Arcade game to support it. Or a mobile game. It makes perfect sense to develop that way. Same ship, same parts. Maybe you buy one and get another free.

I think it really comes down to what the developer wants to do. It’s not that we think all games should – in some way or another – be on all platforms. Being in publishing, it’s sort of my role to help developers answer the question [of where they'd like their game to end up]. So a lot of that question is answered by, “OK developer, what do you want to do? We want to be here to help you.”

RPS: Do you have any major PC games or exclusives on the horizon?

Lobb: I can’t make any announcements. But we are very dedicated to that space.

RPS: Are you looking into traditional pay upfront triple-A products, or is Microsoft largely looking into free-to-play and/or browser stuff?

Lobb: Free-to-play, to me, is not a decision to be made as a business model at the end [of development]. It really comes down to what type of game are you building, developer, and how do you want to monetize it? Do you pay upfront, do you want to have DLC, do you want to have a sustainable ongoing experience, do you want to go after free-to-play?

It’s more about the game design than support for a particular monetization style. We don’t believe that to be on PC you must be free-to-play or microtransaction-based.

RPS: In the wake of years and years of disappointment – countless ons, offs, flip-flops, Games For Windows, etc – why should people think that this time is going to be any different?

Lobb: The only way we can build trust in our community is by making great games. The PC community is more vibrant than it’s ever been before. I love it. We build a platform and other people make games on top of it. We do things to help set up the development community, and we also love to make games for you.

RPS: So this is it? You’re committed to PC, even if, say, you face some initial setbacks or things don’t quite go according to plan?

Lobb: Absolutely.

RPS: OK then. We will hold you to that. Thank you for your time.


http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2014/02/11/microsoft-really-really-is-into-pc-this-time-apparently/

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PostPosted: Tue, 11th Feb 2014 22:21    Post subject:
Pretty sure they honestlycrossmyheartfoshure mean it this time. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue, 11th Feb 2014 22:26    Post subject:
Anyhow, this is just more PR BA from Microsoft, I don't for one second expect them to start green lighting more PC games. They had that chance over the last seven years and fucked it up big time. If any of their games do start coming to PC, you can bet they'll be exclusive to ?Windows 8 of course, oh hai Spark.


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PostPosted: Tue, 11th Feb 2014 22:28    Post subject:
Great news, new Solitaire, Pinball and Minesweeper on the way.
Can't wait! Aww Yeah
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PostPosted: Tue, 11th Feb 2014 22:33    Post subject:
Microsoft saving PC gaming

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PostPosted: Tue, 11th Feb 2014 22:58    Post subject:
they can start by doing a proper mechwarrior game.
hell, i would welcome an proper mmo living world mechwarrior to, but there are so many things to screw up.

and yeah, restart their joystick division.
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PostPosted: Tue, 11th Feb 2014 22:59    Post subject:
8.1 exclusives Pffchh
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PostPosted: Tue, 11th Feb 2014 23:08    Post subject:
I don't much care about the games turning out 8.1 exclusive, I use that anyway. All I care about is the quality and quantity of games. They can stick casual shit right back up their arses.

But I believe companies can change, especially after restructuring. If they mean what they say, now are the best circumstances to give them a wee bit of credit.

We'll see ... we'll see.
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PostPosted: Tue, 11th Feb 2014 23:11    Post subject:
I don't know if the fact that it's a blatant lie is funnier than the fact he never presented a concrete plan to improve PC gamimg. He even goes so far as paint the PC market as some aftertought/ support role (even tho he tried to deny after he realized how honest he was Laughing ).
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PostPosted: Tue, 11th Feb 2014 23:17    Post subject:
Radicalus wrote:
If they mean what they say, now are the best circumstances to give them a wee bit of credit.


Do you ever give them anything else? Microsoft could announce that games cause AIDS and you'd cheer them Laughing I'm sorry dearie, but no, they'll get no credit from me until they've earned it. Release MS-published AAA titles not locked down to Windows 8 and stop buying exclusivity for the XBONE, then maybe... just maybe, they'll start to earn some credit again.
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PostPosted: Tue, 11th Feb 2014 23:21    Post subject:
Przepraszam wrote:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=88868188#post88868188

Saving PC since 2005!

9 years of saving PC gaming. Thank you Microsoft, i would not be playing games on my PC today if it wasn't for you!
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PostPosted: Tue, 11th Feb 2014 23:23    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
Radicalus wrote:
If they mean what they say, now are the best circumstances to give them a wee bit of credit.


Do you ever give them anything else? Microsoft could announce that games cause AIDS and you'd cheer them Laughing I'm sorry dearie, but no, they'll get no credit from me until they've earned it. Release MS-published AAA titles not locked down to Windows 8 and stop buying exclusivity for the XBONE, then maybe... just maybe, they'll start to earn some credit again.

I would even give them credit if they released AAA games locked down to Windows 8. But we can't even get this. Consider Shadowrun as AAA game is a joke. And Halo 2 was just one exception that confirms the rule.
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PostPosted: Tue, 11th Feb 2014 23:24    Post subject:
Fuck them.
As if anyone who's familiar with their stance towards the platform will ever believe in them. Laughing


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PostPosted: Tue, 11th Feb 2014 23:50    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
Radicalus wrote:
If they mean what they say, now are the best circumstances to give them a wee bit of credit.


Do you ever give them anything else? Microsoft could announce that games cause AIDS and you'd cheer them Laughing I'm sorry dearie, but no, they'll get no credit from me until they've earned it. Release MS-published AAA titles not locked down to Windows 8 and stop buying exclusivity for the XBONE, then maybe... just maybe, they'll start to earn some credit again.


I like Microsoft more than the average techie, true.

At this point in time, being cornered from multiple directions (Mantle vs. DX, Valve OS vs. Windows), I think strategically they should try to please PC gamers as much as they can, they can't afford to lose them.

The business savvy decision to make in their shoes is to invest in this, they would be stupid not to.

Now, you can say many things about MS, but stupid they are not.
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PostPosted: Wed, 12th Feb 2014 00:01    Post subject:
Radicalus wrote:
sabin1981 wrote:
Radicalus wrote:
If they mean what they say, now are the best circumstances to give them a wee bit of credit.


Do you ever give them anything else? Microsoft could announce that games cause AIDS and you'd cheer them Laughing I'm sorry dearie, but no, they'll get no credit from me until they've earned it. Release MS-published AAA titles not locked down to Windows 8 and stop buying exclusivity for the XBONE, then maybe... just maybe, they'll start to earn some credit again.


I like Microsoft more than the average techie, true.

At this point in time, being cornered from multiple directions (Mantle vs. DX, Valve OS vs. Windows), I think strategically they should try to please PC gamers as much as they can, they can't afford to lose them.

The business savvy decision to make in their shoes is to invest in this, they would be stupid not to.

Now, you can say many things about MS, but stupid they are not.


Then he wouldn't have answered the multi-platform release question so poorly. He refused to say what MS's stance on xbox exclusives is in regard to PC gaming.

If MS is "united" now, then it should makes sense for them to release xbox exclusives on PC as well (especially if it is 8.1 exclusive). But MS still need xbone to sell, where they get a cut, so obviously that is not the case. Ergo he couldn't say anything like that.

But that shows they haven't changed their stance since 2005. They've said they love pc gaming, and yet time and time again it is clear xbox is still top priority and PC are for "side" games.
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PostPosted: Wed, 12th Feb 2014 00:08    Post subject:
I loved the questions the RPS interviewer made, leaving these lame motherfuckers exposed Twisted Evil
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MS to discontinue GFWL

Only good thing in that list that is really helping PC gaming, and it was their fault to begin with Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed, 12th Feb 2014 00:11    Post subject:
that interview makes me want to puke tbh. And the guy should look for another job ... like cleaning horse shit. He seems good with horse shit.
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PostPosted: Wed, 12th Feb 2014 00:18    Post subject:
Microsoft doesn't have to lift a finger other than offering some nice PR so gullible people will like the company more. We're stuck with Windows and they know it.

What else are pc gamers going to do?

Go to Apple? So we'd have to install Windows just to play AAA games anyways?

Go to the Steam box/console? We'd still need a Windows PC to do everything else.

Go to console? That'd be their dream come true, so they can sell us Xboxes.

The best thing Microsoft could do for PC gamers is to stay the fuck out of the way. Stop trying to shovel in useless GFWL, that Microsoft "Games for Windows" program that caused every patch to get delayed because of some stupid authorization stage, stop thinking that we want our pcs to look the same as our smartphones/tablets,and stop making games exclusive (even if temporarily) for X-Box. Just make the OS work, and let developers continue making games on it.
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PostPosted: Wed, 12th Feb 2014 00:21    Post subject:
MS became so sad in the last years. Laughing

Their crap Xbone that is last gen.
Win8.
Win8 exclusive games nobody even cares for.
Selling the Surface tablets for so much and wondering why nobody wants it.
Trying to make fun of Chromebooks in their latest commercial spots.

MS, pls.
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PostPosted: Wed, 12th Feb 2014 00:22    Post subject:
@Claptonvaughn

Well said
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PostPosted: Wed, 12th Feb 2014 00:37    Post subject:
I hope there is fear there, fear that Valve might be on to something and in 5 years time no PC gamer will be using Windows. If Valve achieve what they want to achieve then that should be the case. But with his talk about tablets and mobile games he and MS can fuck right off. Fuck MS. Never forget. Laughing

Claptonvaughn wrote:
Go to the Steam box/console? We'd still need a Windows PC to do everything else.


At the moment. The OS hasn't even been released properly yet. If everyone uses it it will have just as much support as Windows.


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PostPosted: Wed, 12th Feb 2014 08:20    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Wed, 12th Feb 2014 08:33    Post subject:
until they make a worthy OS to replace win7, they can keep their PR lingo to themselves.


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