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zenux
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 Posted: Tue, 3rd Jun 2025 21:57 Post subject: |
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Tjee, how to teach you the meaning and pronunciation of 'vakman.'
A man is a man, right? That is the easy part.
I may take a break in between explaining.
A 'vak' as a noun can have many different meanings.
Stretching from a vacant lot to something you learn in school.
Break...
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zenux
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| Posted: Tue, 3rd Jun 2025 22:14 Post subject: |
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I know the meaning, it's craftsman.
I am not sure how it's pronounced.
With V or with F in the beginning?
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| Posted: Tue, 3rd Jun 2025 23:59 Post subject: |
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In Dutch:
'v' is pronounced as 'vee' like cattle.
No idea how that sounds in other languages.
The 'f', we pronounced it like: 'fortisomo'
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zenux
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| Posted: Wed, 4th Jun 2025 09:00 Post subject: |
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AI Overview
In Dutch, "vakman" is pronounced with a slight variation in the "v" sound. The "v" is often pronounced more like an "f" in some dialects. The "a" is pronounced as in the English "father," and the "m" is similar to the English "m." The "n" is pronounced as in the English "n." So, you'd hear it sounding roughly like "fawk-man" or "fack-man".
Here's a breakdown:
v: The "v" is often pronounced with a lip-and-tooth sound, similar to the English "f".
a: The "a" has a long, open "a" sound, like the "a" in "father".
k: The "k" is pronounced like the English "k".
m: The "m" is pronounced like the English "m".
a: The "a" has a long, open "a" sound, like the "a" in "father".
n: The "n" is pronounced like the English "n".
Is that true or Gemini AI is just pandering to me?
'Cause ,I kid you not, yesterday its answer was 'v' is pronounced like English 'v'.
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| Posted: Wed, 4th Jun 2025 09:56 Post subject: |
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You are going to teach me how to pronounce Dutch?
Okay.
The 'w' we pronounce like way, and not wee.
Edit: Or doubleyou.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/W
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zenux
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| Posted: Wed, 4th Jun 2025 14:28 Post subject: |
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iconised, how do you personally pronounce the Dutch word vakman?
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| Posted: Wed, 4th Jun 2025 14:35 Post subject: |
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I will order a decent microphone.
And when I receive it, upload my voice recording to YouTube.
Will let you know...
| zenux wrote: | | iconised, how do you personally pronounce the Dutch word vakman? |
I pronounce it as a 'v', not a 'f'.
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zenux
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| Posted: Wed, 4th Jun 2025 15:10 Post subject: |
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Some googling:
https://www.dutchgrammar.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1355
Edit: I wouldn't perceive the way I pronounce Dutch as ordinary.
Man I was born with a speech impairment.
Vakman/vakmens I pronounce with a 'v'.
Edit:
Words with a 'v': vuur, vogeldans, vrachtwagen, volière (French incorporated)
Edit2: Specific 'f' words: faillissement, faculteit, fauteuil, fanfare
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zenux
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| Posted: Wed, 4th Jun 2025 19:45 Post subject: |
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BTW, if one would pronounce a 'v' as a 'f', and then say vak, it will sound like 'fuck'.
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| Posted: Wed, 4th Jun 2025 20:32 Post subject: |
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