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zteam2




Posts: 47
PostPosted: Sat, 28th May 2005 10:50    Post subject: Reloaded doing it?
Last days i saw 3 or 4 releases by RELOADED with Starforce 3 protection....
Maybe other good news are comin' from them???
Next.....SCCT?? Razz
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maxiepaxie




Posts: 1732
Location: Belgium
PostPosted: Sat, 28th May 2005 12:42    Post subject:
Indeed it seems to be going that way(hopefully!)
keep up the heavenly work reloaded
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MartinW




Posts: 100
PostPosted: Sat, 28th May 2005 13:23    Post subject:
Guys, wake up and stop dreaming.

This is old story. Reloaded does some Starforce titles but they are much easier to crack than titles like Toca2, Colin, Cossacks, Trackmania and Splinter Cell. They would have already cracked these if they only know how.

I am happy to see more Starforce releases but let's be honest and realize that Reloaded do what they CAN DO. Maybe someday they will learn to crack all Starforce protections.

For today they still cannot deal with "real" Starforce.
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zteam2




Posts: 47
PostPosted: Sat, 28th May 2005 14:27    Post subject:
So,
for the releases they did the last 3 days using Starforce 3....it's only older version of the protection?
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kosmiq




Posts: 2304
Location: Somewhere
PostPosted: Sat, 28th May 2005 14:29    Post subject:
But please, are we gotta get into this discussion again?
Lets face the truth that no one of us would even crack the simplest version of starforce. Lets also look at it this way: RLD may not be capable of SCCT SF3 protection, but for every title they crack they probably gets better and better in cracking SF3, right?

I will from now on stay out of all SF3 threads as always the same thought and opinions is posted... Razz
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bigboy177




Posts: 430
PostPosted: Sat, 28th May 2005 14:34    Post subject:
MartinW wrote:
Guys, wake up and stop dreaming.

This is old story. Reloaded does some Starforce titles but they are much easier to crack than titles like Toca2, Colin, Cossacks, Trackmania and Splinter Cell. They would have already cracked these if they only know how.

I am happy to see more Starforce releases but let's be honest and realize that Reloaded do what they CAN DO. Maybe someday they will learn to crack all Starforce protections.

For today they still cannot deal with "real" Starforce.


Yes master... You know if it's hard or not... You're the 1337est cracker of them all...
I agree this discussion is stupid... But we don't know what RLD can do, or will do...
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zteam2




Posts: 47
PostPosted: Sat, 28th May 2005 14:57    Post subject:
Don't understand you guys!!!
Bigboy & Kosmiq, it's really strange:
you say this discussion is stupid but,
i'm just saying in this thread that news are comin' from RLD...so, maybe we can hope better things....don't know what is the problem with this!!
I'm just talking about the new releases comin' on Nforce...& this is true stuff, true Starforce 3 releases from RLD...
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CableMunkeh




Posts: 198
PostPosted: Sat, 28th May 2005 15:08    Post subject:
bigboy177 wrote:


Yes master... You know if it's hard or not... You're the 1337est cracker of them all...
I agree this discussion is stupid... But we don't know what RLD can do, or will do...


We know what they can't do, or they'd have done it by now, so that's a weird point you're making there.

It's not that hard to rate difficulty at a very basic level, think Freakshow gave a simple formula to have a guess at the protection strength just from protect.dll size.

Obviously nowhere near reliable but a fair bet something with a 20MB file is going to be more complex than a 5MB file.

RLD have been knocking out SF3 for a while. Do they 'pwn' it - nah, still takes them some time to crack a lot of titles and others they can't at all.

Best not break the champagne out just yet Smile Let's just see how things go and see some strongly protected games broken quickly before we can do that.
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bigboy177




Posts: 430
PostPosted: Sat, 28th May 2005 15:16    Post subject:
CableMunkeh wrote:
bigboy177 wrote:


Yes master... You know if it's hard or not... You're the 1337est cracker of them all...
I agree this discussion is stupid... But we don't know what RLD can do, or will do...


We know what they can't do, or they'd have done it by now, so that's a weird point you're making there.

It's not that hard to rate difficulty at a very basic level, think Freakshow gave a simple formula to have a guess at the protection strength just from protect.dll size.

Obviously nowhere near reliable but a fair bet something with a 20MB file is going to be more complex than a 5MB file.

RLD have been knocking out SF3 for a while. Do they 'pwn' it - nah, still takes them some time to crack a lot of titles and others they can't at all.

Best not break the champagne out just yet Smile Let's just see how things go and see some strongly protected games broken quickly before we can do that.


My point was exactly your last sentence...

Let's just see how things go and don't cast judgement on everything...
It's easy, it's hard... They are lame... they are great... This should be a court not a disscussion forums... Twisted Evil
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feyenoord4ever




Posts: 924
PostPosted: Sat, 28th May 2005 16:19    Post subject:
Its good to see these piece of shit games still getting cracked.. Especially now lots of suppliers are using SF. OWNED ! Very Happy
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m2rock




Posts: 1357
PostPosted: Sat, 28th May 2005 16:27    Post subject:
Who cares when the best game is out anyways ; )
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zteam2




Posts: 47
PostPosted: Sat, 28th May 2005 17:14    Post subject:
Someone knows the kind of SF3 they cracked this week?
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ORX




Posts: 2
PostPosted: Sat, 28th May 2005 18:38    Post subject:
Guys, think what happening then if GTASA will come with Starforce 3.
Astalavisa GTA Shocked ?
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feyenoord4ever




Posts: 924
PostPosted: Sat, 28th May 2005 23:06    Post subject:
ORX wrote:
Guys, think what happening then if GTASA will come with Starforce 3.
Astalavisa GTA Shocked ?


I guarantee you, it won't have SF3 Wink
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geokou72a




Posts: 9
PostPosted: Sun, 29th May 2005 10:47    Post subject:
MartinW wrote:
Guys, wake up and stop dreaming.

This is old story. Reloaded does some Starforce titles but they are much easier to crack than titles like Toca2, Colin, Cossacks, Trackmania and Splinter Cell. They would have already cracked these if they only know how.

I am happy to see more Starforce releases but let's be honest and realize that Reloaded do what they CAN DO. Maybe someday they will learn to crack all Starforce protections.

For today they still cannot deal with "real" Starforce.

[NO FLAMING]
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MartinW




Posts: 100
PostPosted: Sun, 29th May 2005 10:57    Post subject:
Quote:
Yes master... You know if it's hard or not... You're the 1337est cracker of them all... I agree this discussion is stupid... But we don't know what RLD can do, or will do...

Even few years old boy knows what they are capable of. w_w_w_.nforce.nl - Games ISO section. Go, read and learn what they CAN and CANNOT do. Simple? Do not hesitate to ask me for help next time.
Quote:
[NO FLAMING]

First: idiot is the one who made you. What is "SHEAT", by the way? Wink

Second: RLD cracks latest starforce version but since you come from pathetic family you do not know that latest Starforce does not mean the hardest Starforce. Use search function on nforce forum and maybe you will learn some news about Starforce (I doubt... considering your roots).

Third: Colin was cracked by Ultima indeed and they did it only because no one else (including Reloaded) was able to do it. We were talking about Reloaded, not Ultima. Wake up, child.
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heiter




Posts: 86
Location: SWEDEN
PostPosted: Sun, 29th May 2005 13:25    Post subject:
whats with the crackers of xpand rally why dont they crack colin, sc ct, trackmania and so on ???

@100/10mbit flat
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Grimsrud5000




Posts: 29
PostPosted: Sun, 29th May 2005 21:13    Post subject:
There are DIFFERENT kind of levels of Starforce protection.
There are three levels I believe.

I would guess its cheaper to license the level that is cracked.
A weaker kind of protection.

The uncrackable is probably SHIT expensive to license.
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kachain




Posts: 109
PostPosted: Sun, 29th May 2005 21:30    Post subject:
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whats with the crackers of xpand rally why dont they crack colin, sc ct, trackmania and so on ???

That's funny. Xpand Rally was cracked by Ultima and the same team also cracked Colin. Why don't they crack Trackmania, SCCT and so on? I suppose they said all in their last NFO (Colin 2005). Read it and you will understand.

I was thrown out of college for cheating on the metaphysics exam; I looked into the soul of the boy next to me.
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Grimsrud5000




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PostPosted: Mon, 30th May 2005 00:01    Post subject:
Kachain: Read my post. Maybe because of that?
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jaapie18




Posts: 2432
Location: Holland
PostPosted: Mon, 30th May 2005 00:12    Post subject:
kachain wrote:
Quote:
whats with the crackers of xpand rally why dont they crack colin, sc ct, trackmania and so on ???

That's funny. Xpand Rally was cracked by Ultima and the same team also cracked Colin. Why don't they crack Trackmania, SCCT and so on? I suppose they said all in their last NFO (Colin 2005). Read it and you will understand.


maybe they just bluffing
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kachain




Posts: 109
PostPosted: Mon, 30th May 2005 11:06    Post subject:
Grimsrud5000: everything is possible since they released only 2 titles.

Jaapie18: just as I said above. It is an option.

I was thrown out of college for cheating on the metaphysics exam; I looked into the soul of the boy next to me.
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bigboy177




Posts: 430
PostPosted: Mon, 30th May 2005 11:40    Post subject:
It's been almost half a year since Ultima released anything... so I don't think they can crack any new strongly protected by SF3 title... If they could the would have done it at least once since last year's Colin 2005...
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Freakshow




Posts: 410
PostPosted: Mon, 30th May 2005 11:48    Post subject:
bigboy177 wrote:
It's been almost half a year since Ultima released anything... so I don't think they can crack any new strongly protected by SF3 title... If they could the would have done it at least once since last year's Colin 2005...


they can Smile as their way to work aournd sf3 is still working. But also the ultima way takes alot of time but if u mean splinter or co its still the new VM sf used. protected data files always needs a crack and splinter has exactly that stuff.
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highstuff




Posts: 1976
Location: Netherlands
PostPosted: Mon, 30th May 2005 14:21    Post subject:
its not realy an new VM just the stolen function are packed encrypted once more inside the VM with an sort of packer like UPX the game ofcourse needs to decrypt this even more now and this takes many more cpu power..starforce is almost doing a suicide with such an incompatible crap protection. I am almost sure Ubisoft will not use it in the future anymore.
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Freakshow




Posts: 410
PostPosted: Mon, 30th May 2005 14:38    Post subject:
highstuff wrote:
its not realy an new VM just the stolen function are packed encrypted once more with an sort of packer like UPX the game ofcourse needs to decrypt this even more now and this takes many more cpu power..starforce is almost doing a suicide with such an incompatible crap protection. I am almost sure Ubisoft will not use it in the future anymore.


not on all titles but on some. They made a contract according to ubisoft forum themself that include 10 games. Yet they did only 2.

I guess BardsTale will not have it nor will Settlers 5 Addon but Rainbow 6 is probably sf3 again as the beta already has sf3 which they showed on E3. Its just the question how much they will apply. pcodes, data protection, dll protection, new vm?

about the VM .. a small change in a VM can do alot. Just code a simple passwd check in delphi or c. add vmprotect with only 3 of 6 features. Try to crack it. then Add 4. You will see its a hell more work. SF3 vm isnt as strong as VM protect but it is for sure same style.

Same is with securom f.e. Imperial Glory Securom applied a new VM ... not cracked till today Smile
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qwertyqwerty




Posts: 69
PostPosted: Mon, 30th May 2005 14:42    Post subject:
Just noticed that Silentgate released Freedom Force vs. The Third Reich. The interesting part is that German publisher DTP according to Silentgate used SF 3.4.76.0 with VM protected DATA files in a 848.477.896 Bytes big resource1.dat to protect this game. This 2 CD game was cracked too big to release on 3 Cd's so they released it on a DVD instead. According to Silentgate the cracked version also loads up to 78% faster than the Starforce-protected original. This confirms one more time that Starforce only damages the interests of the legitimate users.
Thank you Silentgate and Reloaded for the good job on cracking Starforce.

BTW: It seems to me that Silentgate cracked the new VM of Starforce!
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bigboy177




Posts: 430
PostPosted: Mon, 30th May 2005 15:32    Post subject:
qwertyqwerty wrote:
Just noticed that Silentgate released Freedom Force vs. The Third Reich. The interesting part is that German publisher DTP according to Silentgate used SF 3.4.76.0 with VM protected DATA files in a 848.477.896 Bytes big resource1.dat to protect this game. This 2 CD game was cracked too big to release on 3 Cd's so they released it on a DVD instead. According to Silentgate the cracked version also loads up to 78% faster than the Starforce-protected original. This confirms one more time that Starforce only damages the interests of the legitimate users.
Thank you Silentgate and Reloaded for the good job on cracking Starforce.

BTW: It seems to me that Silentgate cracked the new VM of Starforce!


Yap...
SilentGate is another group to crack SF3... and It's even better crack than Ultima's... I think it's the biggest cracked SF3 game till now... Even immersion's Dead To Rights' crack was smaller...

Way to go SG... Smile
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highstuff




Posts: 1976
Location: Netherlands
PostPosted: Mon, 30th May 2005 16:48    Post subject:
well then it seems they realy exchanged and get infos about starforce from the DIE group..nice hopefully we see an sc3 from them soon.


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highstuff




Posts: 1976
Location: Netherlands
PostPosted: Mon, 30th May 2005 17:03    Post subject:
oops double
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